Marcus Garvey Wrote a Letter to White Supremacist Earnest Cox Calling Negros Lazy

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

 

[TripleAgent]

As are most black people, due to them being educated by white supremacists.

this pathetic thread is an example of that.

damn

You took the time to insult, but are you going to answer my question? Or is this just a deflection?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You could say this about Dubios with his fair skinned associates and talented tenth.

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nope...."talented tenth" doesn't mean light skinned...people have to stop perpetuating this myth.



Garvey tried to look/critique AfroAmerica through the Jamaican 3 tier caste system lens and no one (in the USA) was having it.

Garvey was confused because of the mental scars Jamaica's brownings left on him


every West Indian leader that knew him in the USA pretty much confirmed this

The funny thing about Garvey hating mixed people was that while he was preaching a form of "true negroism," he actually wasn't practicing what he was preaching:

His wife was part of the brown/mulatto class in Jamaica her words/thoughts on how Garvey saw her beauty:

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according to his wife, before he married her, he wanted to this Afram woman below :

......she looked like a quadroon compared to his wife; Garvey clearly liked the light skinns even while claiming to hate them

 

[Starman]

nope...."talented tenth" doesn't mean light skinned...

This is true. I careless in my response to Swagnificant.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

and according to @IllmaticDelta the majority of people who supported him were west indians. So the people who he was around and being supported by, going to his lectures and all were very likely not Black americans

yup

When he first came to America, he was at Tuskegee.

edit- he wrote with Washington before Washington died and he went through the south while on a 38 state speaking tour. My bad but I knew he had some ties to tuskegee

Garvey was only in the South for a short period; for the most he stayed up North because he was shook of the KKK


Garvey was so shook of the Deep South, he basically did theat his meeting with the KKK

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a deeper look into why he went full blown c00n

Spoiler

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The Klan was making examples out of UNIA members in the Deep South

 

[King Sun]

Y'all nikkas complains about Garvey being exposed are funny. I just skimmed through this and Garveys views is no different from what dudes on the coli think and should be challenged and made public. I feel like hero worship is one the biggest downfall when it comes to us.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

divide and conquer. Like what is the real agenda behind this?

But I'm sure its going to be ADOS vs Immigrant war now

now? Yall better do yall research on how that Garveyites (mainly west indians w/ a smattering of ADOS) vs Various ADOS factions really went down



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some background info:

During the 1922 convention, Garvey gained virtually complete control of the UNIA by silencing his opposition, but he gained this control at the cost of increasing disaffection inside, and dissent outside, the movement. By 1924, of the officers elected at the original 1920 convention, only two---Garvey and Henrietta Vinton Davis---remained. Rev. J. W. H. Eason, impeached during the 1922 convention, emerged as an open rival, and, with J. Austin Norris, another former UNIA stalwart, he attempted to constitute a competing UNIA under the name of the Universal Negro Alliance.

Eason, by then a potential prosecution witness in Garvey's mail fraud trial, was assassinated in New Orleans in January 1923, and two UNIA adherents, William Shakespeare and Constantine F. Dyer, were charged with the crime. Although initially convicted of manslaughter, they were acquitted in August of the following year. The Bureau of Investigation's agents believed that Esau Ramus, a minor UNIA official who had recently been sent by Garvey to the New Orleans division, was the real assassin. While it is impossible to determine Garvey's role in the killing (he denounced it, and attributed the murder to Eason's "woman affair") (Negro World, 13 January 1923), the publicity surrounding the assassination of Eason cast a pall over the movement and did Garvey no small damage.

Mgpp .::. UCLA Africa Studies Center


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Garvey believed black people would never receive justice in white-dominated societies and sought to return blacks to their ancestral home.
Originally, the message resonated with Eason. After serving as an African Methodist Episcopal Zion minister, he left the pulpit to join Garvey’s organization.
His decision came after the tumultuous summer of 1919, when race riots broke out in 26 American cities. Eason traveled the nation, raising more than $1 million for Garvey’s panoply of businesses, including the Black Star Line.
But by 1921, he discovered that Garvey had siphoned off most of the money and that none of the three ships was seaworthy. He began to talk to the FBI, and it became known he would testify in federal court against Garvey.
But on Jan. 1, 1923, while in New Orleans for a speech, Eason was shot in the back and killed. He was 36.
Three months later, a laborer named Esau Ramus who was wanted on a theft charge in New York was arrested and indicted for the murder. Despite efforts by the FBI and Louisiana to extradite Ramus, he was tried on the theft charge, spent three years in prison and then disappeared.
Garvey was eventually sent to prison for mail fraud for having received donations for the inoperable Black Star Line. When he was paroled in 1927, he was deported and later died in England.
Eason’s case died, too - until 10 years ago when Youssef came across his FBI file while researching her book “Marcus Garvey Exposed.”
Though the book only briefly deals with Eason, Youssef spent the ensuing years collecting information about his life and proof that Garvey had him assassinated.
She displays a Nov. 9, 1922, letter from Garvey to a New Orleans UNIA leader that introduces Ramus as a friend of the movement and places Ramus in the city when Eason visited. She displays a Feb. 3, 1923, letter to the Chicago Defender, a prominent black newspaper, in which the writer - whose handwriting reportedly matches Ramus’ - takes credit for killing Eason.
Youssef said the two letters link Garvey directly to the murder of Eason. More direct evidence, Youssef said, would be a copy of the deposition Eason gave the FBI in 1922.

https://www.ocala.com/article/LK/20050220/News/604223210/OS

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Garvey

Malcolm

Thing that’s most annoying about the comments is he wasn’t even in the south when he made these comments, and from what I read, he didn’t go down there at all. He was saying all this up north in a state that didn’t have to deal with all the terrorism that was present in the south. So, to call my ancestors lazy...

Most Black Americans were down south at the time, and he made these comments without really knowing the Black American. I can understand talking to the enemy in a quid pro quo situation, but calling black Americans out there name and you don’t know really know their struggle or situation?

yup...
Dubois gave him more work. Told Garvey he didn't know sh1t about the "American Negro" struggle and keep that West Indian caste nonsense in Jamaica

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Thank you. He was doing this to get MOnEY to fund repatriation. He was essentially talking the language of cacs to Get them to break him off.

people are so fukking dumb

nah, he went beyond that

Dubois on garvey:

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Garvey's own words:

garvey quote:

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Communities that existed during Garvey's time.

Spoiler

Greenwood/Black Wall Street—Tulsa, Oklahoma



Hayti District—Durham, North Carolina

The Hayti District, also known as “The Black Capitol of the South” among Black leaders in Durham, North Carolina, became a successful Black community soon after African Americans migrated to the city to work in tobacco factories in the local area of Fayetteville Road. The land where the neighborhood emerged was initially owned by white merchants but was eventually purchased with capital that Black residents earned over time. In its prime from the 1880s to the 1940s, the district was one of the most successful Black communities in the country.

The city was home to the historic North Carolina Mutual Insurance Company, Lincoln Hospital, as well as over 200 other Black-owned businesses. Upon his visit to the district in 1911, Booker T. Washington stated that he found a "a city of Negro enterprises" whose citizens were "shining examples of what a colored man may become.”

U Street—Washington, D.C.

Historically known as “Black Broadway,” Washington, D.C.’s U Street corridor was known as the epicenter for Black excellence and talent at the end of the 19th century and the first half of the 20th century. U Street was the home of Black social, cultural, and economic prosperity, despite “racial and political tension” in the country. Some of the most prominent entertainers, activists, educators, and artists in the country have walked the legendary corridor, shaping its history into what it is known for today. Pioneers like Carter G. Woodson, Zora Neale Hurston, Mary McLeod Bethune, Billie Holiday, Langston Hughes, and more “found refuge in Black Broadway” to unapologetically celebrate Blackness.


Sweet Auburn Historic District—Atlanta, GA

Dubbed the "richest Negro street in the world," by John Wesley Hobbs, Sweet Auburn was a haven for Black Atlanta residents before the Civil Rights movement. The district’s cultural and social landscape shaped the Black experience in the city, birthing now-historic Black churches, businesses (such as the second largest Black insurance company in the country, Atlanta Life Insurance Company), talent and more. The Sweet Auburn district is also the birthplace of Martin Luther King Jr.

Garvey knew about that, that's why he bowed down to black america when he first arrived

 

[IllmaticDelta]

There has never been anything lazy about black ppl. Now I see why Black ppl turned on him and ran him out the country. I never wanted to believe he was a con artist but this is damning.

His own people (west indians) had enough of the BS and ran him out; that's how out of pocket he was

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[K.O.N.Y]

Its awfully quiet in here

 

[MikelArteta]

Black star line

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Its awfully quiet in here

truth/facts got cats

 

[Problematic Pat]

#CarnellGang really messy in these streets.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

nikkas really calling Garvey a c00n and are serious too?

people on this board called Booker T a c00n when what he said/did is waaayyyy lighter and more understandable than what Garvey was out here doing/cosigning


By coli standards, is Booker T Washington a c00n?