Marcus Garvey Wrote a Letter to White Supremacist Earnest Cox Calling Negros Lazy

[Hiphoplives4eva]

In waiting for the cancellation of Malcolm X

It’s coming very soon. Expect the greasy c00n, or some tranny to post and these c00ns will run with it

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Only one still not cancelled is the devil.

You noticed that too huh?


Demonic times indeed

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Malcolm and NOI was different than Garveys goofy ass.

Garvey was out getting support financially from the KKK and commedning their efforts because it supported his movement with people going to him out of fear and frustration

X and NOI was different and more so a act of diplomacy.

The cia literally had the NOi on speed dial you dumb fukk.

 

[Cadillac]

I just told you you'll hear the same thing from "NPR"



Unless you have proof to the contrary, let's assume the comments are accurate...

well post the npr, it dont matter to me.

if NPR has the same excerpt as that, then i question its validity. Because as Illmatic delta has pointed out in other threads with proof. Alot of ADOS/African americans did not support Garvey. Alot of his support came from other west indians.

so that "he appeal to the working class african american" is suspect.

Try what again? I respect both men and probably agree with Dubois more.

The fact of the matter is Du Bois' circle of associates was noticibly lighter and Garvey's darker. During their beef Du Bois' called Garvey's camp the Ugliest Negroes In America.


Nobody's perfect, and both men will have contributed more to Black culture and uplift than either of us.

of course they were lighter, given ados history alot of our intellectual and upper elite class were due to skin color barriers.

"ugliest negroes in america" is a bit of a reach.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Uhhh...I mean...that does sound crazy. Is there some context I'm missing? I'm not well versed on Garvey.

As are most black people, due to them being educated by white supremacists.

this pathetic thread is an example of that.

damn

 

[IllmaticDelta]

So we're canceling Marcus Garvey now?


Its crazy how Twitter is so insistent on cancel culture that people who aren't even alive get quotes and soundbites from them dug up to be picked apart. It's sick. Let the deceased rest

I mentioned in another thread that Garvey was out here bowing down to the KKK and sh1tting on his own race to the highest form of betrayal



Garvey was full of contradictions

plus he was out here making statements of the highest form of betrayal/c00nery

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[Hiphoplives4eva]

You see why black people as a whole have such a hard time progressing. nikkas deserve to be left behind. nikkas become academics when it's time for accountability and time to hear some harsh truths. Look out for self, family, and your limited sphere of influence. Don't count on any mass black awakening. Greater men and women have tried and failed. nikkas is institutionalized and comfortable.

This is starting to become more and more apparent every day. Truly sad

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

@xoxodede also co-signed Ann Coulter as a great ally to African Americans, and completely dismissed Yvette Carnell's own ties to John Tanton, PFIR, and far-right wing interests.

I see these phony movements rely HEAVY on cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias.

Basically.

imagine someone valuing a co-sign from that confused clown

 

[Cadillac]

The cia literally had the NOi on speed dial you dumb fukk.

and you think thats the same as Garvey with the KKK?

 

[Wildhundreds]

I can't wait for the millennial generation to do something productive though..

Its like they're only good at begging democrats for shyt, and tearing down the ancestors..


And blaming others for their failures..

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Malcom X met with Nazis

What Malcom/NOI did was not the same as what Garvey was doing...we already know black and white separatism have similar points in preservation of their respective races but Garvey was out here consigning white supremacist talking points as far as the "black" race never achieving/accomplishing anything of note

Garvey was so out of pocket that even his West Indian followers started calling him out

 

[IllmaticDelta]

They both had the goal of "returning" black americans to africa.

Garvey didn't care about africa or africans....son never once made it to Africa


Garvey pretty much wanted to have personal leadership in Liberia/Africa with Western Blacks (West Indians + AfroAmericans) as the leaders to as he put it: "assist backwards africans".

he basically said native africans were dumb and lazy because they didn't realize what resources they had on their hands

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he wanted to kick the Euros out of Africa and have Western Blacks take over. Garvey's own words:

This is where he and Dubois disagreed about how to approach Pan-Africanism in Africa. Dubois believed that Africa should be ruled by and for Africans

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George Padmore summed it up perfectly:

 

[tuckgod]

I mentioned in another thread that Garvey was out here bowing down to the KKK and sh1tting on his own race to the highest form of betrayal



Garvey was full of contradictions

plus he was out here making statements of the highest form of betrayal/c00nery

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Well damn.

Yeah I’m glad they got that nikka up outta here.

 

[xoxodede]

Truth be told, rural southerners, black or white, were viewed the same. Lazy and shiftless.

In fact, white sociologist and observers had worse to say about rural white southerners than they had to say about blacks.

Here's an account of a white slave owner and his observation about poor white southerners - he calls them "Ragtag and Bobtail" and "Sandhillers".



All of this sounds just like their descendants today....

He also goes on to explain the source of their animosity to blacks.



"and very possibly met with a somewhat supercilious reception at the bands of the powdered and bejewelled body-servants of the grand old cavaliers of those times."

These "powdered and bejeweled" slaves looked down upon poor white trash.

I was actually going to do a thread on this. Antebellum slave society was not always black and white.

There were levels and house slaves from the grandest slave owning families looked down upon non-upper class whites in scorn. And they knew it.

In fact, the term "white trash" originated from house slaves. They also coined a term called "half-strainers" which was for upwardly mobile whites who tried to imitate the upper class families that the house slaves served.

Say all this to say, white academics, intellectuals, and planters looked at rural southern whites the same way as the black intelligentsia looked at poor southern blacks who were the counterparts of the poor white trash. These blacks people were the blacks that wanted to go back on the plantation because of all their needs being taken care of by their masters. Similar to how some black men today who've been in jail, do shyt to go back to jail because they are taken care of.

All have been on record calling their rural counterparts lazy and stupid.

Here is the full excerpt for anyone interested.

A Slaveholder's View of the "Poor White Trash"

Please do a thread - I would love to read - maybe contribute.

Whites have ALWAYS called Black people lazy -- even while enslaved. But, it is NOT true - -and it something that others have picked up and ran with -- to demonize and stereotype the enslaved and their descendants.

99% of enslaved - were not "powdered and bejeweled" -- in addition - those body-servants - were not armed -- they were enslaved men who were forced to be the support system (cooks, cleaners, band, etc) for their enslavers (confederate soliders).

Yes, there were levels to enslaved - but they were still enslaved and the majority of the enslaved - house or not -- were brutal. Some historians stating house enslaved had it worse.

If you wan to learn more you should read: Masterless Men: Poor Whites and Slavery in the Antebellum South

as well as:

Out of the House of Bondage: The Transformation of the Plantation Household





Yes, they saw the difference between rich and not-so rich whites -- but no so rich whites also enslaved and worked/supported plantation life/enslavement.

While the majority of enslaved people lived on large plantations, there were a significant minority who lived on smaller farms where they and their families were the only slaves owned by their master (or mistress). This article uses 22 Works Progress Administration (WPA) interviews conducted in the 1930s with former slaves from across the South to investigate the lives of enslaved people living with masters or mistresses that they described as ‘poor’, and argues that enslaved experiences on small farms owned by poor whites varied widely, but were marked particularly by violence, material deprivation, and intense loneliness. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0144039X.2017.1327095​

On the bolded:

These blacks people were the blacks that wanted to go back on the plantation because of all their needs being taken care of by their masters.​

Please be careful when stating this/repeating this.

Those "Blacks" that wanted to go back did so cause they were not allowed to work, or didn't have the physical capacity to do so (elderly, disabled, etc) and were not able to gain work cause whites did not want to hire nor help them-- they (whites) wanted free labor/enslavement back.

Those freedman/women were also mentally beaten down where they thought and were told that was the best they could do and believed it.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

When he met with the kkk

i understood what he was trying to do. Plus looking at it from a early 20th century lens

Reaching out to the KKK in itself wasn't bad as far as a way to keep things peaceful/separation of the races: Some AfroAmerican leaders of that era had already used that strategy but they never went to the levels of practically praying for the KKK to terrorize blacks the way Garvey did

it was the bowing down and cosigning some of their more ludicrous beliefs and wanting them to do harm to black people in the South

But saying shyt like this in "personal" letters is straight c00n shyt. Not even defendable

exactly