Man tricks woman into abortion and now faces murder charges

[Real N Quotes]

Scallywag and Vagabond | Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking an abortion pill. Loses baby.

John Andrew Welden, 28 faces a first degree murder charge after allegedly giving a bottle of abortion inducing drugs to his pregnant girlfriend in which he misrepresented as being harmless antibiotics.

At the time, Welden’s then girlfriend, Remme Lee was six weeks pregnant but the news of Lee’s pregnancy did not sit well with Welden who instead wanted Lee to have an abortion.

Told Lee to ABC: ”I was never going to do anything but go full term with it, and he didn’t want me to.’

At the time Welden who was working on a degree in sports medicine went on to tell Lee that a scan of her unborn baby she took at his father’s clinic showed that she had a bacterial infection and needed to take Amoxycillin three times a day.

Rather than consult with Dr Welden, John Andrew Welden, Lee took his suggestion at face value trusting that she indeed have an infection. At the time she trusted her boyfriend, believing that he was the love of her life and believed that they had a future together.

But rather than offer Remme Lee Amoxycillin he instead forged his father’s signature and instead procured cytotec, an abortion inducing drug and simply relabelled the bottle.

From there Lee took a pill on her way to work but was instead hospitalized with bleeding and abdominal pains. She went on to later lose the baby in hospital.

From there it was soon discovered that a drugstore surveillance camera caught Welden buying Cytotec after doctors at the hospital began to question the contents of the prescription pills in her possession.

Lee has since gone on to file a lawsuit claiming she suffered battery and emotional distress while the government went on to its criminal case in federal court. It is understood this past Tuesday Welden was indicted with product tampering and first degree murder.

Whilst killing a six week old fetus is not considered viable in state court, federal law does not acknowledge the distinction.

Told Tampa lawyer Todd Foster: ‘If someone kills an unborn child while committing a federal crime, it is considered murder.

Welden’s father, a board certified obstetrician and gynecologist who works with infertile couples wishing to become pregnant, has not been accused of any crime.


i thought you guys would find this interesting since you guys always joke about it.

What a

 

[aqualung]

....This dude will pay for this mark my words. And, even worse I think the state might go after his father and his medical license.

His dad is a victim too. Sonny boy stole. A Rx pad and forged a signature. Sonny panicked and resorted to that by-any-means-necessary mentality. -_-

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[Turbulent]

I'm guessing yall didn't read the article?

Product tampering is a federal crime. His federal crime resulted in the death of an unborn child. That's murder.

Getting an abortion isn't a crime and it's authorized by the person carrying the baby.

is an unborn child a person? if it is a person than shouldn't regular abortion also be considered murder? if it isn't a person than can the dude be convicted for murder of a living organism that isn't legally considered a person?

 

[Ashley Banks]

is an unborn child a person? if it is a person than shouldn't regular abortion also be considered murder? if it isn't a person than can the dude be convicted for murder of a living organism that isn't legally considered a person?

I answered these breh

You're confusing me. Are you asking for my opinion or asking about the law? I'll just give both.

My opinion is: Abortion is murder and this is murder.

The law is: A woman getting a legal abortion isn't murder but him giving her abortion pills without her knowing causing her to have an abortion, is first degree murder(since it was done while committing a federal crime).

Doesn't make sense but I don't make these laws.

I know it doesn't make sense to say it's murder and not call abortion murder but I have no control over what they do.

 

[sanityovar8ted]

i think they are both equally stupid and didnt deserve to be parents. her for falling for the bs ass excuse for taking the pill and him for getting caught.

 

[FaTaL]

ultimate L

he doesnt know for sure if the kid is his and hes about to go down for murder

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

I don't really care, but....if this doesn't show people that there is a clear gynocentric bias in law & society i don't know what will. Wearing protection and having safe sex is a two way street, not just the mans responsibility. (love how females and manginas will uphold a rigid system of responsibility for men but a complete system of freedom & victim hood for women)

Now abortion is murder, huh, you fukking a$$holes.

Man unilaterally aborts child, charged with murder - The Spearhead


Learn Game, pump them and dump them or have nothing at all to do with western women.

Enjoy the decline.

 

[philmonroe]

When that male birth control coming out this will stop a lot of shyt esp when it gets to the level of being as good as women's birth control. In the words of Juvie she gone be drove then.

 

[Kitsune]

Slipped mifepristone in her champaign and she aint even know

 

[Turbulent]

Oops. "flour" not "flower"
Sorry.

There are diff types of murder: premeditated murder, depraved heart murder, felony murder, etc

Context matters.

--If you slap a plumber, it is assault, BUT IF YOU SLAP A COP, then it is aggravated assault.
--If you kill somebody driving carelessly, it might be manslaughter, BUT IF YOU KILL SOMEBODY DRIVING CARELESSLY TO ESCAPE THE PARKING LOT OF A BANK YOU JUST ROBBED (felony), then it is felony murder.
--Dude killed her fetus WHILE FORGING SIGNATURES AND OBTAINING FRAUDULENT PRESCRIPIONS (felony under federal law). Maybe state law would charge him with assault on the woman. I don't know. But fed prosecutors brought max charges.

The context matters.
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Each woman gets final say about abortion cuz it involves her own uterus. I can't dictate whether skeetsinternal gets a vasectomy. He can't force me to abort or not.

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i understand the seriousness of the crime changing based on context and in some cases i can agree with that. what i don't understand is changing the actual status of a living being from "non-person" to "person" based on the context. At this point we're not changing the charges. we're changing the actual status of what is considered a person based on the actions of a third party.

 

[Turbulent]

I answered these breh



I know it doesn't make sense to say it's murder and not call abortion murder but I have no control over what they do.

yeah, my bad, i read the rest of the thread afterwards. i disagree with the law but i guess it is the law...

 

[Just Curious]

stop fukking ? stfu.... living organisms main goal is to reproduce. you cant just stop fukking. its not realistic and will never happen.
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The purpose of sex is reproduction, i never said it wasn't. Refer to my previous statement.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

I would keep a 48 hour pill in my possession if I was a celeb knocking down randoms. If the rubber breaks then put the pill in her drink. It's not a fetus at that point therefore there is no case.

 

[skeetsinternal]

almost flawless execution

 

[NoMayo15]

I would keep a 48 hour pill in my possession if I was a celeb knocking down randoms. If the rubber breaks then put the pill in her drink. It's not a fetus at that point therefore there is no case.

Not as bad as murder, but you still can't slip medication to a person without their knowledge.

Reading this thread, I can't believe we're having some of these conversations.