Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

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His due for what exactly? The Knicks haven't been particularly good since he's been here. Aside from the 2012 season where they hit an unsustainable amount of 3's- the team has been below average since we traded for him.

We made the playoffs every year he's been here with the exception of this season. That's exactly what I'm talking about, not giving dude his due.

*EDIT* Rick Fox is trying his hardest to land a job with us :russ:
 

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True. I could live with a team friendly contract. I don't think he's getting a max from any team he's be willing to go to honestly.
Melo would get the max a team can offer :snoop: you are a horrible judge if talent
We made the playoffs every year he's been here with the exception of this season. That's exactly what I'm talking about, not giving dude his due.

*EDIT* Rick Fox is trying his hardest to land a job with us :russ:
He acts like this year proves Melo isn't worth the money and downplays the other years . And then acts like we weren't trash for years , I remember othella Harrington and Shannon Anderson I'll pass on letting Melo go for some attempt at rebuilding . If we actually had a high lottery pick I can maaaaaaaaaybe slightly see what Phil's saying but other than that :camby: nicca acting like Aldridge and guys will want to come to NYC to play with bad teams with no stars , heavy media scrutiny and high ass taxes when in Aldridge case he has a bunch of good teammates and a super star pg. I at no point in my life ever heard him say he wanted to come here, niccas acting like this is football we can tank can still not get a top pick this ain't the nfl
 

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We made the playoffs every year he's been here with the exception of this season. That's exactly what I'm talking about, not giving dude his due.

*EDIT* Rick Fox is trying his hardest to land a job with us :russ:

making the playoffs is the bar now. lol.
 

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No one can deny Melo is a top 10 player, the issue is if he gets a Kobe max what kind of team can they put around him under the modern CBA. Kobe won rings to deserve that Money. Melo is still potential and a second round out.

Also the idea of a multimillionaire wanting to experience FA for free meals and getting his ass kissed is a joke. He's shopping and the Knicks got to make a bid like everyone else. The issue with that is if the Knicks want him 9/10 they are going to give him the Kobe max. Or he goes to a team that gives it to him and the Knicks not being stupid facilitate the trade.

Its not a coincidence the teams he wants to talk to or teams that can trade players to the Knicks in a Kobe Max sign and Trade. Its not a coincidence Phil Jackson put it out there the Knicks want him to take less or at least opt in to let the knicks get other players before they commit to the Kobe Max. Melo wants that Money Right Now.

shyt he might want to go to the bulls because regardless if he wins there or not he will get him money and people will blame Rose (like they do Amare) for having a worse contract due to injuries.
 
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You'd rather have Carmelo than Aldridge? I'm not a hater I'm a realist. The only way to go about this is having a test run on the last year of his contract to see if he's a fit. If he is, great. Resign him. Melo in a new offense that's going to force him to move without the ball may not be for him, he's never had to do it in his career. Would rather find that out before giving him a huge contract.

I don't know why you keep bringing up Chris Paul- I'd want nothing to do with him.

And about this.....

Aldridge will be 30 by the time he hits free agency. He's not coming to NY to have to carry a team lacking cornerstones. Nor should you expect that, history shows big men start falling off noticeably once they're on the wrong side of 30.

You'd want LA here playing w/ Carmelo if the opportunity is there, not replacing him.
 
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Oh well i guess well hit rock bottom next year get a high pick then have a shtitload of cap space in 2015 sounds ok to me :manny: I think Phil realizes Melos a great scorer but has flaws and isnt the ideal person to build around so either take a paycut or take a hike

If not for Phil here wed have some puppet whod cowtow to Melo and give him the max crippling our flexiblity for the next 5 years.
 

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Oh well i guess well hit rock bottom next year get a high pick then have a shtitload of cap space in 2015 sounds ok to me :manny: I think Phil realizes Melos a great scorer but has flaws and isnt the ideal person to build around so either take a paycut or take a hike

If not for Phil here wed have some puppet whod cowtow to Melo and give him the max crippling our flexiblity for the next 5 years.
You guys killing me with this cap crippling nonsense and trying to justify how losing a top 10 player who just been putting up his best seasons for cap space and draft picks. The draft is a damn crap shoot it gets us no closer to winning a title . Melo plus reasonable talent is a top team in the east as we just saw a season ago , but this tank and draft pick nonsense is :camby: . I'm starting to think people didn't watch during the bad years when we routinely seranaded other players with MVP chants hoping to draw then here . This is a star league and losing a star for uncertainty is horrible , have a plan b if melo decides to leave but money better not be the issued when people were saying it's just money resign Lin bull . Melo and a decent team in the east is our best bet
 
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