Major City Black Population +/-, per 2020 Census

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Are those cities good for black people, though?

Assuming it depends on the person .

As a person who was born and raised in a real black city I find it damn near impossible to live in a city where we’re not the majority . I’m not a militant ass nikka but it would feel strange as hell. The vibe is totally different in a real black city and it simply cannot be matched in the majority in other spot . You can dump me in any spot where nikkas act like it’s hell on earth and that shyt wouldn’t bother me at all but in Atlanta I felt like a damn alien and nikkas was talking about that’s a black Mecca .


I’m pretty sure any nikka from Memphis ,Birmingham or any other REAL black city would have similar feelings. shyt is just different

 

[murksiderock]

Assuming it depends on the person .

As a person who was born and raised in a real black city I find it damn near impossible to live in a city where we’re not the majority . I’m not a militant ass nikka but it would feel strange as hell. The vibe is totally different in a real black city and it simply cannot be matched in the majority in other spot . You can dump me in any spot where nikkas act like it’s hell on earth and that shyt wouldn’t bother me at all but in Atlanta I felt like a damn alien and nikkas was talking about that’s a black Mecca .


I’m pretty sure any nikka from Memphis ,Birmingham or any other REAL black city would have similar feelings. shyt is just different

Where did you grow up?

I went to 8th grade in Memphis (2002-03 school year, Memphis was 60% Black back then), and over the years, I spent a ton of time in Memphis---->haven't been since my (step)grandma died in '17, but between the time I left in '03 and her passing in '17, I went back at least 5 other times...

Granted, I actually lived in a white area of town back then, but went to church in Frayser and had family all over South Memphis from Westwood to Riverview to Blackhaven, had an aunt that worked out east at Oak Court. So I'm illustrating that our apartment was in a white hood but I spent a ton of time in blacker areas of the city, and ironically the part of town that was only around 15-20% Black when I lived there, is like 40-45% black now...

It is different in mostly black cities, but there are positives and negatives to that. I grew up in California and Virginia and never saw as many black people in concentration until I went to Memphis. It was foreign to an extent, but the real culture shock was the southern-ness more than the demographics...

Personally Memphis is not the city anyone should hang their hat on as black excellence. Per capita and household incomes for black folks are WAY below national average in Memphis, overall poverty and child poverty are twice the national average, violent crime rates are like 6x above national average, the public education is one of the worst in the nation, higher education in Memphis is arguably the worst of any city that anchors a 1-million+ metro---->seriously, name a middle to large sized city with a worse higher education infrastructure than Memphis....

Wages are extremely low, the city is insular to a fault, I mean the list goes on. Sure, there could be black cities great for black people but Memphis isn't one of them by any measure that matters...

Nashville is a significantly better place for black folks in the same state as Memphis, with half the number of black people and us as a total making up less than a quarter of Nashville's population...

I'm less familiar with Baltimore but I've been several times and it has most of the same issues as Memphis. Been to Birmingham a few times, ditto for them...

There are drawbacks to growing up in integrated areas, or areas where we are the minority, but there are positives too. The real thing is we gotta find the right places that promote the health abd sustainability of black people, and contrary to popular belief, we can find this all over the nation, all these areas don't look the same...

 

[Supper]

Assuming it depends on the person .

As a person who was born and raised in a real black city I find it damn near impossible to live in a city where we’re not the majority . I’m not a militant ass nikka but it would feel strange as hell. The vibe is totally different in a real black city and it simply cannot be matched in the majority in other spot . You can dump me in any spot where nikkas act like it’s hell on earth and that shyt wouldn’t bother me at all but in Atlanta I felt like a damn alien and nikkas was talking about that’s a black Mecca .


I’m pretty sure any nikka from Memphis ,Birmingham or any other REAL black city would have similar feelings. shyt is just different

Keep in mind EVERY majority black city had a decrease in black pop except for NOLA barely by %0.7.

Several cities dropped off the majority black list between 2010 and 2020 ie Atlanta, Cleveland, DC, Newark, Richmond etc.

It's a reason folks are leaving these cities which are either becoming ghost towns like Baltimore and Detroit or heavily gentrified like ATL and NOLA.

How can a city that black people are LEAVING in mass be considered a black mecca?

 

[El Bombi]

Assuming it depends on the person .

As a person who was born and raised in a real black city I find it damn near impossible to live in a city where we’re not the majority . I’m not a militant ass nikka but it would feel strange as hell. The vibe is totally different in a real black city and it simply cannot be matched in the majority in other spot . You can dump me in any spot where nikkas act like it’s hell on earth and that shyt wouldn’t bother me at all but in Atlanta I felt like a damn alien and nikkas was talking about that’s a black Mecca .


I’m pretty sure any nikka from Memphis ,Birmingham or any other REAL black city would have similar feelings. shyt is just different

He basically saying any city with a huge wealthy CAC tax base is a Black Mecca

 

[murksiderock]

He basically saying any city with a huge wealthy CAC tax base is a Black Mecca

That ain't what I'm saying at all, but the floor is yours. Why should we view Memphis as a black mecca or even beyond that, a great place for black people?

 

[Cadillac]

Here's a question I have for the board. What do you guys consider the "black meccas" here in the early 2020s? The places that offer the best range of lifestyles and experiences for black individuals, and black families?

As an aside, I'm American too, I'm very well aware that there is no black utopia in the United States, so I'm not asking for the place with black perfection because that place doesn't exist. Just using whatever criteria yall deem relevant, what are the cities you'd call "black meccas"?

Just to give a guideline along population boundaries, here are the Top 10, with metro Top 10 in parentheses:

1 New York (NY TriState)
2 Chicago (DC/Bmore)
3 Philadelphia (ATL)
4 Houston (Chicagoland)
5 Detroit (Philly/Delaware Valley)
6 Memphis (Houston)
7 Baltimore (DFW)
8 Los Angeles (Greater LA)
9 Dallas (South Florida)
10 Jacksonville (Detroit)

.........

Just to give my brief opinion:

Memphis is the first city that is outta place that jumps out. It's a regional capital for all things Mid-South in that SW Tennessee/Arkansas Delta/Mississippi Delta area, but is not even the greatest place for black folk in Tennessee--->that would be Nashville...

Memphis has the 6th-most city blacks and 11th-most in the metro, but should not be considered a mecca by any stretch...

Jacksonville is the other city that jumps out. It's a big deal in its area and on the SE Georgia coast, but it really isn't a national draw for black people. I dont feel like Baltimore by itself is a mecca for black people, but its hard to separate it from the larger region, because that entire Nova thru Central Maryland loop is a magnet for black people...

Every other city that placed in the Top 10 on either list I do think of as having the qualities of a black mecca: (4)South----Atlanta, Houston, DFW, Miami/SoFla; (3)Northeast---DC/Bmore, Philly, NY; (2)Midwest---Chi, Detroit; (1)West---LA...

wherever there is a strong Black/ADOS population, with a strong presence of black/ADOS culture, social ability, you can also throw some political power to perhaps.


ATL still is a heavy hitter in terms of all around things currently, houston is getting up there it seems.

theres possible potential That DFW might get up there(im not 100% as I am not looking at any facts, so take what I said here w/ grain of salt)

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Neither is divorce rape or single motherhood by choice.

Who said it was?

 

[murksiderock]

Update as the '23 ACS just dropped in recent months. Compare your city in '23 with the 2020 numbers and see how they stand. Here was 2020 by raw population:

Black Population
New York 1,943,645

Chicago 801,195
Philadelphia 630,462
Houston 520,389

Detroit 496,534
Memphis 389,779
Baltimore 338,478
Los Angeles 336,096
Dallas 303,577
Jacksonville 290,279
Charlotte 289,062
Washington 285,810
Columbus 259,483

Indianapolis 248,067
Atlanta 235,513
Milwaukee 222,746
New Orleans 208,273
Fort Worth 180,439
Cleveland 180,224
Nashville 169,349
Newark 154,048
Louisville 148,676
Boston 138,870
Birmingham 137,296
Kansas City 132,617
St Louis 129,814
Cincinnati 125,443
Phoenix 125,260
Raleigh 122,766
Baton Rouge 122,461
San Antonio 102,816
Buffalo 102,636

Oklahoma City 95,634
Norfolk 95,594
Richmond 91,653
Oakland 91,561
Virginia Beach 85,478
Rochester 84,752
Tampa 84,340
Las Vegas 82,485
San Diego 82,265
Minneapolis 82,038
Orlando 73,320
Austin 69,757
Sacramento 69,167
Pittsburgh 69,050
Denver 64,038
Tulsa 61,526
Omaha 60,280
Miami 57,254
Dayton 55,981
Columbia 52,598
St Paul 52,256
Bridgeport 52,138
Seattle 51,419

San Francisco 46,725
Hartford 46,231
New Haven 43,160
Fresno 40,972
Portland 38,217
Grand Rapids 37,567
Albany 31,023
Worcester 30,485
Knoxville 30,477
Tucson 30,342
San Jose 29,308
Bakersfield 28,305
Providence 25,860
Charleston 25,553

Tacoma 22,666
Riverside 20,100
Albuquerque 19,833
Allentown 16,617
Greenville 16,164

Honolulu 6013
Salt Lake City 5766

Here's '23:

New York 1,677,436

Chicago 729,189

Philadelphia 594,203
Houston 505,308

Detroit 479,126

Memphis 389,561
Baltimore 330,176
Los Angeles 310,911
Dallas 302,705

Charlotte 292,101
Jacksonville 287,252
Washington 272,706
Columbus 267,147
Indianapolis 236,458
Atlanta 233,941
Milwaukee 202,943

New Orleans 195,775
Fort Worth 184,015
Cleveland 167,329
Nashville 165,015
**mean: 150,902**
Birmingham 137,147
Newark 136,802
Louisville 134,137
Phoenix 133,866
Kansas City 133,024
Raleigh 125,736
Boston 123,113
St Louis 113,461
Baton Rouge 110,068
Cincinnati 109,711

Durham 94,142
Richmond 91,370
Oklahoma City 88,078
San Antonio 87,993
Buffalo 87,671
Oakland 84,346
Virginia Beach 83,269
Norfolk 83,069
Tampa 76,761
San Diego 75,989
Minneapolis 73,174
Orlando 72,318
Rochester 71,084
Las Vegas 69,661
Austin 66,919
Miami 60,818
Pittsburgh 60,441
Tulsa 59,580
Sacramento 59,241
Denver 57,921
St Paul 53,704
Omaha 53,201

Seattle 47,773
St Petersburg 44,903
New Haven 39,698
Hartford 39,428
Grand Rapids 38,387
San Francisco 36,479
Portland 36,281
Fresno 32,883
Bridgeport 31,425
Tucson 30,557
Knoxville 28,936
San Jose 25,249
Bakersfield 25,138

Des Moines 24,382
Albany 22,725
Worcester 21,568
Madison 20,687
Providence 20,337
Tacoma 19,342
Albuquerque 16,796
Greenville 16,003

Honolulu 5284
Salt Lake 2269

 

[murksiderock]

Black Percentage of Population
Detroit 77.7%
Birmingham 68.4%
Memphis 61.6%
Baltimore 57.8%
New Orleans 54.2%
Baton Rouge 53.8%

Newark 49.4%
Cleveland 48.4%
Atlanta 47.2%
St Louis 43%
Washington 41.4%
Dayton 40.7%
Cincinnati 40.6%
Richmond 40.4%
Norfolk 40.2%
Rochester 40.1%
Philadelphia 39.3%
Milwaukee 38.6%
Columbia 38.5%
Hartford 38.2%
Buffalo 36.9%
Bridgeport 35.1%
Charlotte 33.1%
New Haven 32.2%
Albany 31.3%
Jacksonville 30.6%
Chicago 29.2%
Columbus 28.6%
Indianapolis 27.9%
Raleigh 26.3%
Kansas City 26.1%

Nashville 24.6%
Orlando 23.8%
Louisville 23.5%
Dallas 23.3%
Greenville 22.9%
Pittsburgh 22.8%
Houston 22.6%
New York 22.1%
Tampa 21.9%
Oakland 20.8%
Boston 20.6%
Fort Worth 19.6%
Minneapolis 19.1%
Grand Rapids 18.9%
Virginia Beach 18.6%
Charleston 17%
St Paul 16.8%
Knoxville 16%
Tulsa 14.9%
Worcester 14.8%
Oklahoma City 14%
Providence 13.5%
Sacramento 13.2%
Allentown 13.2%
Las Vegas 12.9%
Miami 12.9%
Omaha 12.4%
United States 12.3%
Tacoma 10.3%

Denver 8.9%
Los Angeles 8.6%
Phoenix 7.8%
Fresno 7.6%
Austin 7.3%
San Antonio 7.2%
Seattle 7%
Bakersfield 7%
Riverside 6.4%
San Diego 5.9%
Portland 5.9%
Tucson 5.6%
San Francisco 5.3%

Albuquerque 3.5%
San Jose 2.9%
Salt Lake City 2.9%
Honolulu 1.7%

Above was 2020. Below is 2023 black percentage of population:

Detroit 75.7

Birmingham 68.4
Memphis 63

Baltimore 58.4
New Orleans 53.8
Baton Rouge 50.1

Cleveland 46.1
Atlanta 45.1
Newark 44.9
St Louis 40.3
Washington 40.2

Richmond 39.9
Philadelphia 38.3
Milwaukee 36.2
Norfolk 36
Cincinnati 35.3
Rochester 34.6
Hartford 33
Charlotte 32.1
Buffalo 31.9
Durham 31.8

Columbus 29.4
New Haven 29.3
Jacksonville 29.1
Chicago 27.4
Indianapolis 27.1
Kansas City 26.1
Raleigh 26.1
Nashville 24
Dallas 23.2
Orlando 22.6
Greenville 22.6
Albany 22.5
Houston 22
Louisville 21.5
Bridgeport 21.2
New York 20.3

Pittsburgh 19.9
Grand Rapids 19.5
Oakland 19.3
Tampa 19
Boston 18.9
Fort Worth 18.8
Virginia Beach 18.4
St Paul 17.7
Minneapolis 17.2
St Petersburg 17

Knoxville 14.6
Tulsa 14.5
Miami 13.3
Oklahoma City 12.5
United States 11.8
Des Moines 11.4
Sacramento 11.3
Omaha 11
Providence 10.7
Las Vegas 10.5
Worcester 10.4

Tacoma 8.7
Los Angeles 8.1
Phoenix 8.1
Denver 8.1
Madison 7.4
Austin 6.8
Seattle 6.3
San Antonio 6.1
Bakersfield 6.1
Fresno 6
Portland 5.8
Tucson 5.6
San Diego 5.5

San Francisco 4.5
Albuquerque 3
San Jose 2.6

Honolulu 1.6
Salt Lake 1.1

 

[Wiseborn]

Above was 2020. Below is 2023 black percentage of population:

Detroit 75.7

Birmingham 68.4
Memphis 63

Baltimore 58.4
New Orleans 53.8
Baton Rouge 50.1

Cleveland 46.1
Atlanta 45.1
Newark 44.9
St Louis 40.3
Washington 40.2

Richmond 39.9
Philadelphia 38.3
Milwaukee 36.2
Norfolk 36
Cincinnati 35.3
Rochester 34.6
Hartford 33
Charlotte 32.1
Buffalo 31.9
Durham 31.8

Columbus 29.4
New Haven 29.3
Jacksonville 29.1
Chicago 27.4
Indianapolis 27.1
Kansas City 26.1
Raleigh 26.1
Nashville 24
Dallas 23.2
Orlando 22.6
Greenville 22.6
Albany 22.5
Houston 22
Louisville 21.5
Bridgeport 21.2
New York 20.3

Pittsburgh 19.9
Grand Rapids 19.5
Oakland 19.3
Tampa 19
Boston 18.9
Fort Worth 18.8
Virginia Beach 18.4
St Paul 17.7
Minneapolis 17.2
St Petersburg 17

Knoxville 14.6
Tulsa 14.5
Miami 13.3
Oklahoma City 12.5
United States 11.8
Des Moines 11.4
Sacramento 11.3
Omaha 11
Providence 10.7
Las Vegas 10.5
Worcester 10.4

Tacoma 8.7
Los Angeles 8.1
Phoenix 8.1
Denver 8.1
Madison 7.4
Austin 6.8
Seattle 6.3
San Antonio 6.1
Bakersfield 6.1
Fresno 6
Portland 5.8
Tucson 5.6
San Diego 5.5

San Francisco 4.5
Albuquerque 3
San Jose 2.6

Honolulu 1.6
Salt Lake 1.1

Looks like Black people are slowly leaving the big cities.

 

[Spade]

Looks like Black people are slowly leaving the big cities.

Was about to say the same. No matter the region, Black folks are going to the suburbs. Seeing DC Black population about to drop to under 40 is crazy.

 

[Wiseborn]

Was about to say the same. No matter the region, Black folks are going to the suburbs. Seeing DC Black population about to drop to under 40 is crazy.

Yeah that’s insane seen some white people out in Landover recently.

shyt’s wild

Again I’m reaching here but could it also be less Black people? Where did all the Black people go?

 

[Bryan Danielson]

This may be of interest in here



we really gotta expand man

 

[97Pac]

Kinda want to make that move to Detroit. Need to get out of Louisiana for a minute and weed is legal in Michigan

Ain't nobody getting arrested for weed anymore

 

[Ol’Otis]

Bakersfield -0.2%

I live here and trust me even more have left since than