MrPentatonic
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Known industry fact that bleak writes for jay
is it really though?
Known industry fact that bleak writes for jay
will smith had ghost writers
lil wayne has ghost writers. considered a modern day goat
kanye has ghost writers. last i checked hes called one of the goats
nas has used writers like killah priest, dead prez and jay elect and hes considered a goat
ghostface uses theodore unit as writers for mixtape styuff/etc because you gotta keep putting shyt out nowadays
snoop dogg has a team of writers. u think snoop writing thsoe verses? LOL
biggie wrote exclusively for lil kim, last i checked plenty fo peeps in the 90s called kim the best female rapper out
odb had rza gza etc writing his verses; his entire album was almost ghostwritten
all those producers like puffy, timbaland, JD all used ghost writers
dr dre's entire beat making career is from ghostwriters and people cant stop calling him the goat
rza had true master and 4th making beats for him, cuban linx has plenty of 4th disciple on it but does he get ANY credit... NOPE. rza still my goat.
jay z ghost wrote for MAD rappers and on the flipside, I bet mad producers wrote hooks for him and the like; ie put together songs that were already finished and just needed a jay verse. I am sure jay has used a beanie verse before if the songs hot
nwa had a writing pool for the likes of dre and eazy e. should I not bump eazy e cause dude didnt write his own lyrics? are the songs good? CASE CLOSED
im positive drake writes songs cause he ghosts for others, but yall being unrealistic thinking these guys can tour 24/7 and make appearance after appearance but still have time to write all these songs. writing pools is a music thing period and if drake takes a few songs I aint mad, long as the music good.
whats the difference with drake/40 finding producers who make the sound he fukks with and they get them together to make beats versus just picking beats the guys made before. ZERO difference, in fact its more personal cause now hes gathering people for DRAKE and drake only.
i know yall want hip hop to be pure but it isnt 95 anymore. hip hop is a business and aint nutting wrong with helping an artist make a great song as long as hes getting his due for it. PLENTY of our favorite songs were written by someone else but tailored to a certain artists style so when they drop their vox on the track its perfect. Drake has credited plenty of these writers mentione din these threads.
are legends from nirvana to otis redding to johnny cash FAKE because they covered songs?
is hurt by johnny cash just not as good because you found out trent reznor wrote the lyrics... NO NO NO
listen to music brehs, stop caring about the background shyt. half these guys making party music with zero depth and yall upset over it. if dudes making deep songs and stealing lyrics then we have a problem.
Evidence wrote a lot of College Dropout, DJ Babu produced some of it. Consequence has written for him as have many others. Kendrick and Big Sean wrote multiple bars of No More Parties In LA.
Kanye has always worked the same. He has people come in and rhyme over beats that might not be on the album, and he takes various lines and adds them to each song. If you don't believe me that's fine. But that's reality.
U don't know what u talkin bout. The bolded is either rumor. Flat out false or shyt that aint even considered ghostwriting. U nikkas need to stick to ya day jobs. And stop comparing other genres to hip hop. Hip hop has its own criteria and set of rules. Same with every other genre. Cut the shyt. I don't even feel like piecing apart ur whole post as I skimmed thru it. But u nikkas need to cut the shyt and stop tryna throw legends under the bus cause ya boy got caught out there.will smith had ghost writers
lil wayne has ghost writers. considered a modern day goat
kanye has ghost writers. last i checked hes called one of the goats
nas has used writers like killah priest, dead prez and jay elect and hes considered a goat
ghostface uses theodore unit as writers for mixtape styuff/etc because you gotta keep putting shyt out nowadays
snoop dogg has a team of writers. u think snoop writing thsoe verses? LOL
biggie wrote exclusively for lil kim, last i checked plenty fo peeps in the 90s called kim the best female rapper out
odb had rza gza etc writing his verses; his entire album was almost ghostwritten
all those producers like puffy, timbaland, JD all used ghost writers
dr dre's entire beat making career is from ghostwriters and people cant stop calling him the goat
rza had true master and 4th making beats for him, cuban linx has plenty of 4th disciple on it but does he get ANY credit... NOPE. rza still my goat.
jay z ghost wrote for MAD rappers and on the flipside, I bet mad producers wrote hooks for him and the like; ie put together songs that were already finished and just needed a jay verse. I am sure jay has used a beanie verse before if the songs hot
nwa had a writing pool for the likes of dre and eazy e. should I not bump eazy e cause dude didnt write his own lyrics? are the songs good? CASE CLOSED
im positive drake writes songs cause he ghosts for others, but yall being unrealistic thinking these guys can tour 24/7 and make appearance after appearance but still have time to write all these songs. writing pools is a music thing period and if drake takes a few songs I aint mad, long as the music good.
whats the difference with drake/40 finding producers who make the sound he fukks with and they get them together to make beats versus just picking beats the guys made before. ZERO difference, in fact its more personal cause now hes gathering people for DRAKE and drake only.
i know yall want hip hop to be pure but it isnt 95 anymore. hip hop is a business and aint nutting wrong with helping an artist make a great song as long as hes getting his due for it. PLENTY of our favorite songs were written by someone else but tailored to a certain artists style so when they drop their vox on the track its perfect. Drake has credited plenty of these writers mentione din these threads.
are legends from nirvana to otis redding to johnny cash FAKE because they covered songs?
is hurt by johnny cash just not as good because you found out trent reznor wrote the lyrics... NO NO NO
listen to music brehs, stop caring about the background shyt. half these guys making party music with zero depth and yall upset over it. if dudes making deep songs and stealing lyrics then we have a problem.
You post exactly like that chick from europe that used to spam every thread with stan sh*t
Im guessing that's not you since youre using the word "n*gga" and that chick wasn't black.
Drake has a team of producers and writers working on his project and he's called a fraud and industry plant.
Kanye has a team of producers and writers working on his project and he's a genius and you idiots stan him.
So which is it?
Negged.
will smith had ghost writers
lil wayne has ghost writers. considered a modern day goat
kanye has ghost writers. last i checked hes called one of the goats
nas has used writers like killah priest, dead prez and jay elect and hes considered a goat
ghostface uses theodore unit as writers for mixtape styuff/etc because you gotta keep putting shyt out nowadays
snoop dogg has a team of writers. u think snoop writing thsoe verses? LOL
biggie wrote exclusively for lil kim, last i checked plenty fo peeps in the 90s called kim the best female rapper out
odb had rza gza etc writing his verses; his entire album was almost ghostwritten
all those producers like puffy, timbaland, JD all used ghost writers
dr dre's entire beat making career is from ghostwriters and people cant stop calling him the goat
rza had true master and 4th making beats for him, cuban linx has plenty of 4th disciple on it but does he get ANY credit... NOPE. rza still my goat.
jay z ghost wrote for MAD rappers and on the flipside, I bet mad producers wrote hooks for him and the like; ie put together songs that were already finished and just needed a jay verse. I am sure jay has used a beanie verse before if the songs hot
nwa had a writing pool for the likes of dre and eazy e. should I not bump eazy e cause dude didnt write his own lyrics? are the songs good? CASE CLOSED
im positive drake writes songs cause he ghosts for others, but yall being unrealistic thinking these guys can tour 24/7 and make appearance after appearance but still have time to write all these songs. writing pools is a music thing period and if drake takes a few songs I aint mad, long as the music good.
whats the difference with drake/40 finding producers who make the sound he fukks with and they get them together to make beats versus just picking beats the guys made before. ZERO difference, in fact its more personal cause now hes gathering people for DRAKE and drake only.
i know yall want hip hop to be pure but it isnt 95 anymore. hip hop is a business and aint nutting wrong with helping an artist make a great song as long as hes getting his due for it. PLENTY of our favorite songs were written by someone else but tailored to a certain artists style so when they drop their vox on the track its perfect. Drake has credited plenty of these writers mentione din these threads.
are legends from nirvana to otis redding to johnny cash FAKE because they covered songs?
is hurt by johnny cash just not as good because you found out trent reznor wrote the lyrics... NO NO NO
listen to music brehs, stop caring about the background shyt. half these guys making party music with zero depth and yall upset over it. if dudes making deep songs and stealing lyrics then we have a problem.
breh, something I just remembered.
Drake haters are TIGHT about that Sprite ad.
But not tight about this:
I was so tight about this back then. Did Ye even write his own verse?
@Christopher browns and other Ye stans, I need an answer to the question Hacksaw asked.
Bro don't even feed into the shyt. He has NO info on this shyt. He's throwing shyt at the wall hoping it sticks.what Nas/Ghost era/albums are we talking about here?
and receipts on 4th's extensive involvement on Cuban Linx?
What favorite songs are you talking about?
You may believe this for some reason....but why are you trying to make everybody else believe it just cause your hero got exposed? Ive been listening to hip hop since 1989....you cant convince me of this especially considering missus....who are you to say this? Are you in the industry? Are you a reporter? Have you oversaw thw creative process of rappers in the studio when they are crafting their albums? What makes you so confident in saying this?
Hip hop is differwmt because the mc the rapper is at the forefront of the music and the main representative of the culture. I used to rap we prided ourselves on spitting our own lyrics writing 9ur own lyrics no biting no ghostwriting...why do you think a freestyle is a freestyle? Cause it displays the power of the mc as an mc. To be able to craft rhymes at the top of the domw on the spot. Weve criticized rappers weve respected for spitting lyrics in hip hop freestyles that were written. What makes you think we're gonna give Drake a pass when he's done worse in that regard than other rappers?
This is why i say Drake is bad for hip hop. He's emboldening hip hop tourists and pop fans to think they actually have a say in the culture and on an artform. When you were never invested enough in the culture or the art to realize there are principles to being an mc and a rapper. And then you try to twist and mold the art and the culture to your own whims and desires so it resembles something you can relate to causw you've been on thw outside looking in the whole time.
The fact the extreme Drake stans are still trying to push this reasoning onto those who realize what he's doing and who arent afraid to call it out in order to shut them up are proof that hip hop has been dead.
You were never a fan of hip-hop if this was the case. Ko offense.
congrats on being proud of missing the point
Negged.
These dumb ass rappers ain't gonna realize that they short changing themselves and losing out on a whole other check. Which they damn sure need cause they got shytty deals and dont sell enough to offset the difference. They should be aiming to do as much as they can themselves. Lolits gonna b a good time from now on for ghostwriters, the stigma is lessening.