Majid Jordan reveals OVO's secrets on Hot 97(How they find writers,Writing Concentration Camps,etc.)

[ZEB WALTON]

did RZA buy the beat off dude?

this is according to ykims interview on chambermusik.com

I gotta get up for work tomorrow but ill listen to it again and fidn the part.

theres also plenty of rumors on gza writing on 36 chambers. again, no receipts cause its clan only information btu certain info has leaked out.

Theres another ghost verse he took from someone on the tip of my tongue but I cannot remember.

props on understanding tho Sir, instead of getting pissy and telling me im lying

kanye, dre, nwa all have to be taken off the goat lists and put on an impact list that drake on.

 

[SirBiatch]

this is according to ykims interview on chambermusik.com

I gotta get up for work tomorrow but ill listen to it again and fidn the part.

theres also plenty of rumors on gza writing on 36 chambers. again, no receipts cause its clan only information btu certain info has leaked out.

Theres another ghost verse he took from someone on the tip of my tongue but I cannot remember.

props on understanding tho Sir, instead of getting pissy and telling me im lying

All good, breh. It's an interesting conversation. I like to see things for what they are, not get mad when someone's speaking honestly. I might learn some shyt I didn't know.

That's probably why I've been voted WOAT

kanye, dre, nwa all have to be taken off the goat lists and put on an impact list that drake on.

I completely agree. I'm not sure why anybody would look at them vastly different from Drake.

This is partly why I don't foam at the mouth anytime Drake's mentioned. I knew it was pop rap from day zero. I don't expect urban pop artists to write their own shyt, even if they tell me they do.

 

[Big Boss]

I could imagine if my nikka @CrimsonTider was a teacher:

*student A reads speech he wrote*

CT: "Needs work. C-"


*Drake reads speech*

CT: *stands up and applauds* "Great work, Drake!"

*Student A stands up* "But he didn't even write that!"

CT: "I am a new age teacher. I do not care about that even a little bit. Drake's gonna go places because he does whatever it takes to get results"


Class:

 

[ZEB WALTON]

All good, breh. It's an interesting conversation. I like to see things for what they are, not get mad when someone's speaking honestly. I might learn some shyt I didn't know.

That's probably why I've been voted WOAT




I completely agree. I'm not sure why anybody would look at them vastly different from Drake.

This is partly why I don't foam at the mouth anytime Drake's mentioned. I knew it was pop rap from day zero. I don't expect urban pop artists to write their own shyt, even if they tell me they do.

yur def not WOAT bro. I always see you digging into the convo, im tired of people not even reading the point and geting mad like dummies starting namecalling.

and word, people acting like im defending drake. has nuttin to do wit drake. if the people hes putting on are happy, who am i to shyt on drake.

but the "tents of producers" thing is no different then what everyone been doing in the new era. eminem does this. dre does this. kanye has a super team. least i know these dudes like mike zombie, nineteen85 and now majid johnson. idk who dre been stealing from.

i mean people be straight stealing beats/verses/styles/vocab for years, drake looking out atleast i see,

 

[up in here]

and just so you know, replying to a post of pure information with NOTHING to add makes you look like an idiot.

yall need to put up or shutup.

people write songs for people sometimes. it happens. Someone fidn me the hip hop dead sea scrollz that says you cant write for someone.

did large professor produce entire rakim albums and get ZERO credit
did agallah produce onyx second album and have the credit goto onyx themselves
dr dre basically has the same TENTS that drake has, and takes those peoples beats, adds some reverb and mixing and says he produced it. is he still the GOAT?

is the role of a producer to come in and give the backdrop to an MC to come thru on? you think producers havent come in a d told the great rappers to say this this and this and they did exactly that?

song writing can be a collaborative process. only in hip hop with its delusional fans is their some 10 commandments somewhere spraypainted in the bronx that says "all music needs to be done by one man"

and all this is coming from someone who writes/produces all my own music. someone who never listened to a drake album or ever called himsefl a fan.

but yall on soem bullshyt shytting on drake for bringing up and comers in and giving them a voice while kanye taps into ever DOPE mc/producer in hip hop history to make his CLASSICS yall jerk off to

You sound like B.o.B. Right now breh. "Pure information" is bullshyt without the receipts. If it's pure information surely you can drop links proving all of the shyt your claiming. I mean I could easily drop a link to the reference tracks Drake used. Now that shyt is FACTS

 

[dubsmith_nz]

BLASPHEMY!

I can only pray you have no receipts to back this up

Evidence helped produce one song, which Babu had nothing to do with. Ev is even credited in the album booklet as the producer.

Dukes just spinning the truth something wild to protect Drake.

 

[SAINT]

Bro. He doesn't write his shyt. Lol. I'm telling u. This is why he started hiding behind that "great artist" statement rather than tryna push that he's a great emcee like he used to try to do. Son. Like I said.
Go to 2:30 of this video.

Conscious Kanye was Rhymefest and Consequence. Mixed wit some Common as well. Celebrity Ye he took Cudi. Big Sean. Cyhi the Prince. Etc.

So he ain't write family business? Through the wire? Stronger? Can't tell me nothing? Runaway?. Hey mama? . Arguably his best songs, which are personal as fukk

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

at kanye catching strays in this thread...

 

[SAINT]

Evidence Details Work On "Last Call" Off Kanye West's "The College Dropout"

Ev and Babu were involved. Both produced and Ev wrote some shyt. Their involvement in the album has been documented, but the ghostwriting is probably less known.

No Stan, but

"But the reason it says [it was] produced by both of us [is because] the sample didn't clear," Evidence continues. "He went and had an orchestra come in and replay shyt. A musicologist, he really took it to a level I couldn't have musically. Instruments were played on top, he added drums to my drums and he really took it there. I think the version I turned in to him was just as raw because I love the loop and the drum sound of it, but his is really well-produced. So when it says it was produced by both of us, it's well-deserved. I'm not disputing that or anything like that."

 

[Xyrax]

The writer camps thing is normal in the R&B and Pop world. Britney Spears, Rihanna and more often times have labels that bring together hit song writers at 'camps' to hash out songs for their upcoming albums.

shyt is crazy, but its been going on forever in other genres. I suppose it was only a matter of time before someone brought that assembly line music bullshyt to hip hop.

 

[milik_19]

Not writing shyt is 1 thing, but not even making your own music is a whole other story. I enjoy Drake's music, but I never enjoyed him as a person. This proves that shyt. Wouldn't mind if he would fall the fukk off.

 

[thernbroom]

Not writing shyt is 1 thing, but not even making your own music is a whole other story. I enjoy Drake's music, but I never enjoyed him as a person. This proves that shyt. Wouldn't mind if he would fall the fukk off.

Why would you want to enjoy him as a person

Saying they wrote for Drake is like saying Tory Lanez wrote for Meek or Bridget Kelly writing for Jay . But if you dislike Drake, you only gonna accept arguments you wanna hear. Your gonna believe that he brought Majid Jordan (two dudes that never wrote a rap lyric in their life) into the studio and they wrote "Dreams Money Can Buy" or something

 

[stealthbomber]

can't say i'm surprised one bit
still gonna bump views though

i really don't have a choice since i have these people in my life called friends.. and we listen to music at these get togethers called parties.. and the opposite sex, females, they like that drake guy especially..

yall over here talking about "i never listen to drake "

i'm sure you don't


he lost his standing as a real mc but i still enjoy his music for what it is


summer sixteen

 

[spliz]

dont talk out ya ass bro. I know exactly what im speaking on.

show me the hip hop set of rules. id like to see these imigainary steps written in stone like the 10 commandments. its 2016 bro, take the backpackoff and get with the program. I dont even fukk with drake AT ALL. never downloaded an album, but how can dre be the goat producer and kanye be one of the goat artists while yall shyt on drake for finding talent to help him create. NWA is the goat hip hop group but has 2 members who never wrote a verse in they life. dont be a hypocrite.

Who you talking to bro? I dont speak bullshyt. Funny how I list 20 examples of ghost writing and you focus on 2-3 trying to discredit me cause you dont wanna believe yall rhyming heros have help wit their verses sometimes.

hip hop is music just like rock is. theres no rule that hip hop has that other music doesnt. COVER SONGS are a real thing and people put their own spin on the songs if they relate to their life. Hurt by johnny cash isnt real shyt cause he only sang it and didnt write it?


the nikka album; queeens get the money was a jay elect song before a nas song. if you cant tell that nas is spitting a reworked jay elect verse idk what to say

dead prez also helped write/give ideas for the album; this was a huge bombshell when it came out; both jay elect and dead prez initially gave it credibility until a little later where they say they only gave ideas.//

but lets see, jay elect makes a beat and writes a song and gives it to nas who reworks it for himself. how isnt that similar to what drake did with started from the bottom?

FACTS

killah priest helped nas write for the the gods son/street discple era of nas. hell razah called out priest for being on nas dikk and GIVING suynz of mans style to him

FACT

lol at people still not thinking ghostface didnt get written for.

Theodore unti has been writing for ghost for a minute.

the cormega/ghost song is TRIFE. infact, a major protion of that era from fishscale - more fish - big doe rehab is trife, shawn wigs, etc. how do I know this? because I know people associated with ghost. When dudes gotta drop an album every year with mixtapes they have help writing and theres no shame in that.

THE JUX by ghost on BPW was originallty superbs 2 verses. perb and ghost beef started cause perb wanted to keep verse 1 for himself to DEBUT tot he world on some debut verse shyt and gvie ghost verse 2. Ghost instead took verse 1 and perb STOLE the album because ghost took the verse. The jux originally dropped with 2 perb verses and then ghost comes with the same verse.

ghost has also taken entire old wutang rhymes and dropped them elsewhere.

FACTS

ODB's entire first album was almost written entiely by gza/rza; do we respect dirty? absolutely. rza put more work on dirtys first album then dirty did.

FACTS

The RZA -

what the blood clot - ykim
must be bobby - mathamatics
rec room - produced by true master
brooklyn zoo - true master (tho you would never know it, its on rzas greatest hits)
a lil story - cilvaringz
the 50 cent diss by the gza - produced by true master


4th disciple coproduced wugambinos and criminology and others. dude never really comes out and takes shine from rza but hes been down with wu from DAY 1 and you think he dropped his first beat with the clan on Liquid swords with Bible? na my friend, true master and 4th co produce on those early wu albums. can it be so simple sounds like 4th d to me. of course rza reworked it but these dudes gave rza their best work.

to even QUOTE the rza - loosely: "The labels wanted my name on the production for credibility. an unknown isnt going to get as much paper as it saying produced by them versus THE RZA"

infact if you want to keep it 100%. remember when SC dropped and it was ghost and the rza on the the source? RZA is loosely credited as THE PRODUCER of SC. BUT... half of SC's beats werent even made by him. They recieved 1000s of beats (like having tents set up with beat makers making 1000s of beats) and picked thru the absolute best, REWORKED THEM ie. rearranging, changing the mix, adding/removing sections and put the album out as EXECUTVE PORODUCED BY THE RZA. if that was say, DR DRE, every song would have said produced by dre co produced by beatnuts or whatever. Instead rza gave all the original guys production credit and he gave himself overall producer credit.

EMINEM: people send in 1000s of beats to em who has his team take the best and REMAKE THEM to his liking and they dont get credit

now whats the difference between that and lyrics? ZERO. takes two to tango.

but again, take my 20 examples and pick out four to try and disprove my point.

show me where im wrong

did NWA have 2 people who didntw rite? are they called the GOAT?
does kanye write? is he called the mdoern day goat?
does eminem steal peoples beats, rework them and put them out without the orhinakl credits? is that fair?
did nas NEVER EVER get help writing before? he would be stupid not to and its been documented he had help from dead prez and jay elect
its been documented ghost has recieved verses WRITTEN BY SOMEONE ELSE.
did lil kim and foxy brown have EVERY VERSE written for the, were they not the goat female talent of the 90s? Did anyone give a shyt biggie ws wriing kims lyrics?
did we all jam to will smith when he came back MIB era not giving a single fukk that nas wrote going abck to miami

yall sad as fukk man; like santa aint real

nikka. ALOT of that shyt u wrote was RUMORS!. Write FACTS all u want to. There was no fukkin bombshell about the Nas shyt either. Funny how u supposedly in the know but people in the know knew EXACTLY what Dead Prez did for Nas BEFORE the bytch Dream Hampton said anything about it trying to slander him. They themselves went into full on detail before Dream Hampton said anything. It WAS NOT what u would consider ghostwriting. They NEVER gave the rumors credibility. Stop lying. THAT'S ur fukkin bombshell. And u wanna be a bytch and neg cause I called u out on ya shyt? Get all emotional like Drizzy? Like I said the first time. U dont KNOW shyt. U FOLLOW rumor tracks. U don't KNOW shyt. U LISTEN TO gossip. U don't KNOW shyt. Ur a fukkin OUTSIDER. Did u HEAR the music? shyt. Do u have ANY industry interaction at all? I do. And I def dont claim to know everything. I don't come on here. And say shyt that aint confirmed on the inside track. And If I state an opinion on here. I don't act like it's fact. I peeped all ur info is rumor based. So I called u out. Cause its dangerous to run around spreading shyt u dont have a real understanding about. Aint shyt documented but u naming a bunch of female artists. Producers. Will Smith and some damn rock artists. Nas wrote damn near that whole Gettin Jiggy Wit It album and noone really cared cause noone who mattered was listening to Will fukkin Smith for some dope rhymes. nikka was a full on movie star at that point. Ur listing shyt thats rumors. Opinion. And shyt people already knew and don't care about. Ur point is stupid. And I called u out on it. But go ahead. Defend ya boy Drizzy for having writing concentration camps. He fits right in the category with the female artists u named. Will Smith. And cats like Dre and Diddy and Kanye. He does fit into that category. Its the people who try to move him from that category that I have a problem with. NEVER has the face of the genre had this much scandal when it came to authenticity. Defend whatever u want to. One thing I will check into further is the whole Wu shyt. U said u know cats. I know cats in the camp too. So I'm not gonna write that off. Or write u off on that. Until I get some kinda confirmation.

 

[Redwing80]

Just saw the interview.

Drake is a fraud