Lupe Fiasco: "25 rappers I know are far better lyricists than me - Jay-Z, MF DOOM, Mickey Factz,.."

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Lupe raps nothing like Aesop Rock. Dude is literally the embodimnt of Nas and Jay doing the fusion dance.






Lupe doesn't sound a thing like Nas and never has. Nas has grit in his flow, his production. Lupe never did. Nas's rhymes are super vivid, partly because they're very clear. Lupe's rhymes aren't vivid and never have been.

I totally agree with Lupe sounding like Jay-Z. That was obvious from day one. From the flow to even the mannerisms in how he raps on video. Lupe is like a mix between Jay-Z and Kanye West. But the one thing that used to always confuse me was Lupe being abstract and offbeat. I never understood where that came from until he started bigging up Aesop Rock. And that was the :ohhh: moment for me. Despite what my stalkers love to fanfiction about me, I've been studying hip hop for a very long time. I've seen styles and eras come and go. I lived through that whole Def Jux bullshyt. And the only reason I know about Def Jux is because I was in college with white dudes who swore Def Jux was the truth.

What I find so funny is that Lupe deliberately didn't mention Aesop Rock as an influence in those days and for good reason - Black hip hop fans would've laughed his cac-pandering ass out the building. Now that hip hop is cac-infested on all levels, it's acceptable to say you're an Aesop Rock fan and not get checked for listening to obvious garbage.
 
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If anything I expected names like Elzhi, Phonte, Royce, Black Thought, Talib etc to be on this list. Maybe Jay Electonica if the bum ever drops.

It may be fair to assume Nas is on the list by default tho.
 

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Mf Doom more lyrical then Lupe? I can't call it :jbhmm:
 

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:yeshrug: ear of the beholder.

I've been saying forever that Lupe's style of lyricism is in it's own lane, but he knows he can and will constantly and effortlessly go over the average listeners' head.

While that may make him a lyricist's lyricist, that's gonna always hold him back when it comes to general consensus of GOATness.



With that said, there's really only one or 2 MCs I'd put over lupe at his best. Nas, and everything else is questionable.

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but I can't think of anyone whose better than this guy or compete with his writing on tetsuo
 

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Lupe doesn't sound a thing like Nas and never has. Nas has grit in his flow, his production. Lupe never did. Nas's rhymes are super vivid, partly because they're very clear. Lupe's rhymes aren't vivid and never have been.

I totally agree with Lupe sounding like Jay-Z. That was obvious from day one. From the flow to even the mannerisms in how he raps on video. Lupe is like a mix between Jay-Z and Kanye West. But the one thing that used to always confuse me was Lupe being abstract and offbeat. I never understood where that came from until he started bigging up Aesop Rock. And that was the :ohhh: moment for me. Despite what my stalkers love to fanfiction about me, I've been studying hip hop for a very long time. I've seen styles and eras come and go. I lived through that whole Def Jux bullshyt. And the only reason I know about Def Jux is because I was in college with white dudes who swore Def Jux was the truth.

What I find so funny is that Lupe deliberately didn't mention Aesop Rock as an influence in those days and for good reason - Black hip hop fans would've laughed his cac-pandering ass out the building. Now that hip hop is cac-infested on all levels, it's acceptable to say you're an Aesop Rock fan and not get checked for listening to obvious garbage.

post examples of him sounding like Aesop.
 

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This is y i always :laff:when ppl bring up him saying m&m is better than him. He only said that shyt to appease these fakkit ass whiteboys that buy his concert tickets.
Lupe on the song Mural proved he is better then Em to me. To this day I never heard someone go that hard like that.

That song is out of this world :wow: that's the type of song to make a whack rapper quit and never pick up a pen again lol.
 

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Lupe doesn't sound a thing like Nas and never has. Nas has grit in his flow, his production. Lupe never did. Nas's rhymes are super vivid, partly because they're very clear. Lupe's rhymes aren't vivid and never have been.

I totally agree with Lupe sounding like Jay-Z. That was obvious from day one. From the flow to even the mannerisms in how he raps on video. Lupe is like a mix between Jay-Z and Kanye West. But the one thing that used to always confuse me was Lupe being abstract and offbeat. I never understood where that came from until he started bigging up Aesop Rock. And that was the :ohhh: moment for me. Despite what my stalkers love to fanfiction about me, I've been studying hip hop for a very long time. I've seen styles and eras come and go. I lived through that whole Def Jux bullshyt. And the only reason I know about Def Jux is because I was in college with white dudes who swore Def Jux was the truth.

What I find so funny is that Lupe deliberately didn't mention Aesop Rock as an influence in those days and for good reason - Black hip hop fans would've laughed his cac-pandering ass out the building. Now that hip hop is cac-infested on all levels, it's acceptable to say you're an Aesop Rock fan and not get checked for listening to obvious garbage.
Mural is not vivid? Kick Push wasn't vivid? Man shut up and go wait for that new Rocky album.

You're ignorant!
 

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That's not true

A few of Lupe's cadences are Aesop Rock inspired

I see him praise Rock more than anybody most times

Bruh! I'm just seeing this comment. I'm glad someone else understands what I'm talking about. Was he always praising Aesop Rock from the very beginning? Am I buggin when I say that I had no idea he was jocking Aesop until like 2 years ago?

That's the thing about hip hop: people pretend all the time to be influenced by someone respected (for props) but at the end of the day, the way your music sounds tells me exactly who you're influenced by and what audience you're trying to appeal to.

post examples of him sounding like Aesop.

I gotta be honest bruh - I don't care enough about either rapper (especially Aesop) to dig like that. I think it's fairly obvious if you check out a little bit of Aesop's work. Check out dude's flow (I should say 'non flow' really). The only track title I remember from dude is "Daylight" or some shyt. That cac is terrible. I don't want that shyt in my Youtube history.
 

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Lupe on the song Mural proved he is better then Em to me. To this day I never heard someone go that hard like that.

That song is out of this world :wow: that's the type of song to make a whack rapper quit and never pick up a pen again lol.

only thing cacinem will ever have on lu is battle rap ability
 

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Lupe is the nicest lyricist hip hop has ever seen from a pure lyrical standpoint and I don't even like his music like that.
 

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Bruh! I'm just seeing this comment. I'm glad someone else understands what I'm talking about. Was he always praising Aesop Rock from the very beginning? Am I buggin when I say that I had no idea he was jocking Aesop until like 2 years ago?

That's the thing about hip hop: people pretend all the time to be influenced by someone respected (for props) but at the end of the day, the way your music sounds tells me exactly who you're influenced by and what audience you're trying to appeal to.



I gotta be honest bruh - I don't care enough about either rapper (especially Aesop) to dig like that. I think it's fairly obvious if you check out a little bit of Aesop's work. Check out dude's flow (I should say 'non flow' really). The only track title I remember from dude is "Daylight" or some shyt. That cac is terrible. I don't want that shyt in my Youtube history.

 
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