Lord Finesse Is Suing Mac Miller For $10 Million

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a "freestyle", whether a true freestyle or writtens, kinda implies that it was only done once

writing a song to someone else's beat, then continuing to perform that song, and even making a video for the song, is something else
 
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Some of you talking about people go over other peoples beats all the time...nah. You're talking about a freestyle. Which this isn't. This a fully made song. Standard verses, chorus. In a studio. With a video. This isn't a freestyle. It's a full song with a video.

Who else has put out a fully produced song with a video over someone else's music?
 
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shonuf said:
Some of you talking about people go over other peoples beats all the time...nah. You're talking about a freestyle. Which this isn't. This a fully made song. Standard verses, chorus. In a studio. With a video. This isn't a freestyle. It's a full song with a video.

Who else has put out a fully produced song with a video over someone else's music?
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Son..50 and G Unit used to make WHOLE MIXTAPES doin whole songs over other nikkas beats...to the point nikkas would even forget the original joint...
 
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kermit da hustla said:
hip-hop got started by stealing entire beats and rhyming over them? i thought producers took samples and created their own beats out of them.
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Yes, look at cold crush brothers, the funky four plus one more, and all the other crews who did routines with the DJ playing other artist music at clubs and getting some money. It was nothing compared to the money now but they still was getting paid using other peoples music.

Busy Bee & Rodney Cee @ Dixie


Cold Crush Brothers @ Dixie


DO you think the person who made the beat that everyone is rapping over should sue them for using his beat and getting paid that night?.
 
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lotty said:
Yes, look at cold crush brothers, the funky four plus one more, and all the other crews who did routines with the DJ playing other artist music at clubs at getting some money. It was nothing compared to the money now but they still was getting paid using other peoples music.

Busy Bee & Rodney Cee @ Dixie
Busy Bee & Rodney Cee @ Dixie - YouTube

Cold Crush Brothers @ Dixie
Wild Style-Grand Wizard Theodore and the Fantastic Five feat cold crush brothers - YouTube

DO you think the person who made the beat that everyone is rapping on should sue them for using his beat and getting paid that night?.
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actually those beats were made by chris stein FOR those scenes because they had to use original music. Those were made for Wild Style EXACTLY for that reason. That is original music because they couldn't pay for royalties.
 
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shonuf said:
Some of you talking about people go over other peoples beats all the time...nah. You're talking about a freestyle. Which this isn't. This a fully made song. Standard verses, chorus. In a studio. With a video. This isn't a freestyle. It's a full song with a video.

Who else has put out a fully produced song with a video over someone else's music?
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Recent ones...

Ludacris - Cashin Out
Wiz Khalifa - No Lie
Currency - BMF
Ace Hood - Miss Me

Etc...shall I continue?
 
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I'll also point out that there's a first time for everything. just because cats have been getting away with this, doesn't mean it'll last forever. it's a legal grey-area that dudes have been exploiting. also cats might have actually got some kinda permission for a lot of these examples yall bring up

it's like if you get pulled over for speeding, and tell the cop "b-b-but everyone speeds on this road"
 
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lotty said:
Yes, look at cold crush brothers, the funky four plus one more, and all the other crews who did routines with the DJ playing other artist music at clubs and getting some money. It was nothing compared to the money now but they still was getting paid using other peoples music.

Busy Bee & Rodney Cee @ Dixie
Busy Bee & Rodney Cee @ Dixie - YouTube

Cold Crush Brothers @ Dixie
Wild Style-Grand Wizard Theodore and the Fantastic Five feat cold crush brothers - YouTube

DO you think the person who made the beat that everyone is rapping over should sue them for using his beat and getting paid that night?.
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Theres no corporation involved here to sue. If these rappers were signed to a label at the time, I'm sure you could get litigious with em.

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spliz said:
Son..50 and G Unit used to make WHOLE MIXTAPES doin whole songs over other nikkas beats...to the point nikkas would even forget the original joint...
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Exactly. The difference is now because technology is so cheap you can make a video, put it on youtube, and have so many people watch it and this may be why older people don't understand. They are still mentally living in a time when you had big budgets to do these things. I guess it's a war between the old and the new in the mind not necessarily age.

I remember seeing Jadakiss talking about he never used itunes before when he went to buy a nore album in 2008 or 2009 and a whole bunch of rappers talking about they don't know how to work a computer. The same shyt when Serato came out even though it still uses vinyl. That shyt is crazy what kind of bullshyt is that in this day and age and they wonder why they get left behind due to them still try to get a record deal with a good budget:flabbynsick:.
 
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lotty said:
Exactly. The difference is now because technology is so cheap you can make a video, put it on youtube, and have so many people watch it and this may be why older people don't understand. They are still mentally living in a time when you had big budgets to do these things. I guess it's a war between the old and the new in the mind not necessarily age.

I remember seeing Jadakiss talking about he never used itunes before when he went to buy a nore album in 2008 or 2009 and a whole bunch of rappers talking about they don't know how to work a computer. The same shyt when Serato came out even though it still uses vinyl. That shyt is crazy what kind of bullshyt is that in this day and age and they wonder why they get left behind due to them still try to get a record deal with a good budget:flabbynsick:.
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shut up. lord finesse doesn't live in a fukking cave. he knows what youtube is. what mac miller did is take the entire beat finesse produced and used it for a new song. fukk calling it a "freestyle." mac is using finesse's beat for a new song. that's theft,especially when he's doing shows with it, and making videos that only contribute to his ascent as an artist. if mixtapes are how a lot of these artists are making names for themselves (i.e., making money), it stands to reason that artists need to make original mixtapes instead of those with songs that are clearly ripped from someone else's work.
 
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