Lord Finesse Is Suing Mac Miller For $10 Million

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mac miller is not a culturally viable rapper.

so why should a real bboy from the culture of hiphop.

respect someone who is not a real fixture/figure of the culture.

it is as simple as that,....

motherfukkers be biting and trying to use the homage/love bullshyt.

i don't blame finesse,...fukk all toys and culture thieves.

fukk you,..pay me, toy!!!




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Its kinda funny seeing old producers get mad when younger cats use their material.


Same issue with Kanye vs 40 , its like these cats forget that they used to sample older artists work their damm self :heh:
 

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Lord Finesse is one of the GOATs, I remember he was selling his SP-1200 on eBay a few years back

Lord Finesse Selling His SP-1200

It sold for $1,400 :sadbron:

On a serious note, I never knew that he got jerked by Fatboy Slim, searched for info & found this article

finesse_skank.jpg


Rule #4080
 

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Im guessing LF whole thing is as long as he's underground and just doing a freestyle its cool but once it jumps starts your career and you start making money of it look out for a brother

not saying I agree but maybe thats his point
 

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Those of yall who think Lord Finesse is going to easily lose this case must not know about the ongoing copyright dispute going on in music right now. Frank Ocean also got a cease and desist from Warner music for his rendition of a 'The Eagles' track. At the very least they made it so he cant perform the song anymore.

Frank Ocean Vs. the Eagles: The Plot Thickens | News | Pitchfork

Those of you who are saying its setting a precedent, ya damn right it is.
But real talk this is hypocritical as hell from a hiphop prespective. Hiphop was based on sampling others music and now producers who did that in the past are trying to condemn others for doing what they used to do:rudy:

I know about the copyright disputes happening at the moment, but the fact is that a cease-and-desist isn't legally binding, and there (to my knowledge) hasn't been a ruling made in a case like this yet. I agree that it's some hypocritical bullshyt though.

I haven't been able to find the a copy of the claim yet, but the claims revolve around "copyright infringement, unfair competition, unjust enrichment, interference [and] deceptive trade practices".

Copyright infringement is easy - he made no money off the mixtape, but he probably performed it live. If Finesses lawyers can successfully argue that, they'll probably be able to extract fees relating to the performance of a copyrighted work. Now, there might be something to be said of unjust enrichment, but what expense has been suffered by Finesse? It's not as if the kids at the Mac Miller concert would be going to his shows anyway. Same story with unfair competition - what loss has been suffered by Finesse? He might successfully argue loss of profit, but it's not as if Mac Miller has made any money as a result of the release of the song.

Deceptive Trade Practices is weird - it implies that there has been some communication between the parties before the filing, but there's nothing to say about that because we don't know what was communicated.
 

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it means this is about the trend of newjacks reusing old beats, and giving the og's nothing for it. it's not about this one song. this could set a precedent

That's funny because back in the day sampled artist were saying the same thing and rappers were using the songs to sell albums not free mixtapes. I like finesse but this seems wrong.
 

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lord finesse was never ever rumored to be a crack head. The fukk are you talking about? also, let's be honest. if nikkas can make money off suing rappers for sampling their shyt on albums, there's no reason a producer (and artist) shouldn't be able to sue an artist for capitalizing off his work. he's using a beat that finesse put his heart into, all for the purpose of aiding the mac miller movement. this just doesn't apply to miller, though. it casts an eye of judgment towards ALL mixtape rappers who aren't using original beats. just cuz the tape is "free" doesn't mean you're not using it for commercial purposes.
Man, this is how Hip Hop got started, rappers rhyming over other peoples music and got paid doing shows. If this is over with, the rap game is officially dead meaning no more fun just all business like other genres and we helped killed it meaning the artist and fans with some sucker moves. It's bad enough that mixtapes aren't really mixtapes and DJ's don't spin anymore. Even though rap is more business than it used to be it still has some fun to it but this lawsuit may kill it.
 
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