Lord Finesse Is Suing Mac Miller For $10 Million

[CrossBones]

"Hip Hop Heads care about art & the culture... they're not interested in the fame & fortune."

yet the first thing finesse asked for was credit and recognition and that was it. now if that aint cool, hes gonna run in his pockets. this is old school rules

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

LF should sue Wac Miller's silly ass fans too

The Registered Nurse Broom ass nikkas

 

[street heat]

i cant believe so many of you are actually trying to defend finesse on this

 

[Monk One]

I love Lord Finesse but that's a dikk move. He used tons of uncleared samples on his records. Just like Pete Rock with Lupe. Legends feel like there owed the world. I love them but let the next man breath.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

yet the first thing finesse asked for was credit and recognition and that was it. now if that aint cool, hes gonna run in his pockets. this is old school rules

 

[L&HH]

i cant believe so many of you are actually trying to defend finesse on this

I love Lord Finesse but that's a dikk move. He used tons of uncleared samples on his records. Just like Pete Rock with Lupe. Legends feel like there owed the world. I love them but let the next man breath.

Hypocrisy is the world we live in. One can argue tho is that at least with an uncleared sample it was turned into a completely different genre and derivative work, making it distinct from the original piece (Not necessarily always the case especially when nikkas loop, replay, and interpolate samples). With Mac Miller he took a hiphop instrumental and made a completely new hiphop song. Do I necessarily agree with LF, idk mane its hard to say. Put yourself in his shoes, if you made a beat and you go on youtube and a nikka makes a completely new song out of it with 23 million views and he's touring and making money you may feel a certain way as well. At least in LF's case he told them to put his name in the title if and they would have been cool but they aint even do that. Once you see them $dollar signs$ the rules start to change. Which is the same thing that happened with sampling, originally people didnt care because hiphop was just seen as a fad with no real potential and then BOOM the shyt exploded to be one of the biggest genres of music and all of a sudden lawsuits started flooding in and everybody wanted a piece of the pie

 

[torcher]

I can honestly say I've never heard a Mac Miller song in my life but where did Finese get this 10 million figure from? You would think in order for him to sue for that amount he would have to prove that Mac Miller has made that much money off that song which he obviously hasn't. Seems like a waste of lawyer fees to me

 

[Still Benefited]

Theres a lot worse rappers ruining other beats than Mac Miller. Be really real, we arent listening to Lord Finesse out here like that so don't pretend you are a big fan. Lets just call it for what it is a white boy who makes music you don't like so you want him to be punished.

I mean Jay-z completely raped a classic Tupac song and turned it into the softest shyt possible. As a big time Tupac fan, you should be more offended than Mac Miller rapping over a beat you didn't give a fukk about till 15 minutes ago.

I wuz offended about the jayz song more then I wuz offended by this 10 years ago....but the absolute lack of respect I have for Mac Miller I guess makes it appear differently....dope black man vs wack white man who the fuk I'm supposed to side with when the nikka is not wrong in anyway...plus the white man has a history of not giving credit when asked....take that damn Mac off the front of your name too,a disgrace.


[ame="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pv1_mmOTb8"]YouTube - Mac Miller confronted about stolen beat and runs away at S.O.B.s NYC (9/8/10)[/ame]

 

[Kaydigi]

I don't fukk with MIller at all. Was the song available to buy or on an album? Or available today on itunes etc..?

Copyright infringement homey, doesn't matter he gave it away for free. Finesse probably asked for bucks and got the .

 

[3:30]

alota u nikkas like that song tho, and based off that, a normal fan would probably check his music and pay the man.


he owes Finesse more than lupe owes pete rock

 

[L&HH]

I can honestly say I've never heard a Mac Miller song in my life but where did Finese get this 10 million figure from? You would think in order for him to sue for that amount he would have to prove that Mac Miller has made that much money off that song which he obviously hasn't. Seems like a waste of lawyer fees to me

A couple reasons.
First one is, its like the nikka who sold the dry cleaners 100million (or some absurd numberlike that) for a pair of pants. It draws attention. Second even if it isnt $10milly worth (and LF proves damages) they not just gin throw it out theyll give the max amount or it draws more dollars in case Mac wants to settle. If he would have just asked for 10,000 it doesnt to have the same draw and impact as 10million.

 

[street heat]

Hypocrisy is the world we live in. One can argue tho is that at least with an uncleared sample it was turned into a completely different genre and derivative work, making it distinct from the original piece (Not necessarily always the case especially when nikkas loop, replay, and interpolate samples). With Mac Miller he took a hiphop instrumental and made a completely new hiphop song. Do I necessarily agree with LF, idk mane its hard to say. Put yourself in his shoes, if you made a beat and you go on youtube and a nikka makes a completely new song out of it with 23 million views and he's touring and making money you may feel a certain way as well. At least in LF's case he told them to put his name in the title if and they would have been cool but they aint even do that. Once you see them $dollar signs$ the rules start to change. Which is the same thing that happened with sampling, originally people didnt care because hiphop was just seen as a fad with no real potential and then BOOM the shyt exploded to be one of the biggest genres of music and all of a sudden lawsuits started flooding in and everybody wanted a piece of the pie

the beat is probably two decades old. mac millers following is not because of lord finesse. if hes touring, doing shows, and gettin lots of youtube hits its not cuz of this one mixtape track. LF is just tryin to eat off this young kid cuz no one checkin for him anymore

 

[L&HH]

the beat is probably two decades old. mac millers following is not because of lord finesse. if hes touring, doing shows, and gettin lots of youtube hits its not cuz of this one mixtape track. LF is just tryin to eat off this young kid cuz no one checkin for him anymore

One of the main things producers want when somebody uses their beat is credit. At the very least initally thats what LF was asking for. Mac Miller didnt do what he initially asked and LF whats to take it a step further.

Now to address what you said specifically, you dont know how many people checked for Mac Miller because of that song. At the very least we can assume the song did add to Macmiller's following it has 23 million views, it could be safe to say that at least 1 person watched it and liked it and decided to further check out Mac Miller. We can also assume one person watched it and said to themselves "hey he used a LF beat, ill give him props for recognizing a legend, lemme check him out some more". So to say LF is solely responsible for Millers following, no but to say he did add to it Id say so.

 

[I'mHigh]

they would be what they claim to be: a mixed cassette tape. dj's would make them and give them out or sell them. but it was about the dj's skills and choice of music. over time that changed to a focus on 'exclusive' tracks. to the point we're at now where it's just a collection of exclusive tracks by one artist, and there's little to no dj involved

A mixed cassette tape huh. I hate to inform you but it's 2012. Mixtapes are used to promote the artist and at most the DJ is used for the name as promotion. Yall old cats need to deal with the fact that it aint the 90's anymore and times have changed.

 

[King Sun]

Lord Finesse? never heard of dude