Looking back, it's fukked up how 2pac went at C. Delores Tucker

[SunZoo]

You hypocrite......First u said Pac was on the governments radar and had the socialist rhetoric with the juice to actually get the youth on his side with motivation to have a nikka bucking at cops after listening to the song Soulja Story from 2pacalypse while contradicting yourself and doing a complete 180 in your arguments with @hustlemania saying Pac wasnt known like that by 2pacalypse and thats why it flopped.




You cant make this stuff up.

I didn't do a 180, at all.

2pac wasn't known enough to sell records like Ice Cube in 1991. He also wasn't known enough for someone to spot him in Nothin But trouble for all of 15 seconds and have it translate to a platinum album. None of that negates him being on the GOVERNMENTS (not rap fans) radar due to his lineage and his content. That's been my position the whole time. As you can see, people were blaming him for inspiring nikkas to buck cops, before he even had a gold record. You equating "juice" to records sold, I'm talmbout how people reacted to 2pac's message even before the records started selling. But you like to talk about the peripheral shyt, that's your MO.

I ain't mad at cha

 

[SunZoo]

he was writing all them big-ass paragraphs.. thinking he was kicking some knowledge..

and, got reduced to a few bars..

Nah, I ain't get reduced to shyt.

What happened is you got corrected and refused to let it be what it is. You don't get extra points for continuing to ramble on. You sure as fukk get none for having to tag people to come back you up after the fact.

But again...that's your MO. His too, nikkas fighting tooth and nail to be dead ass wrong.

I ain't mad at cha

 

[smokeurobinson]

I didn't do a 180, at all.

2pac wasn't known enough to sell records like Ice Cube in 1991.

yeah...u sound like u weren't around. u keep telling the story all different..i dont believe u were around homie

Brendas Got A Baby was enough exposure.

Juice dropping 2 months later was enough exposure. Like i said...by winter early 92 we knew who Pac was and JD said kriss kross didnt do well in first week sales yet worked the album to go 2 x platinum. So everything u are saying is irrelevant.

I dont believe you were paying attention to hip hop like that in 1991 cuz u not telling the story the way i remember...i was in the 8th grade late 91 and u are nowhere near my age.....i dont believe you.

 

[SunZoo]

yeah...u sound like u weren't around. u keep telling the story all different..i dont believe u were around homie

Brendas Got A Baby was enough exposure.

Juice dropping 2 months later was enough exposure. Like i said...by winter early 92 we knew who Pac was and JD said kriss kross didnt do well in first week sales yet worked the album to go 2 x platinum. So everything u are saying is irrelevant.

I dont believe you were paying attention to hip hop like that in 1991 cuz u not telling the story the way i remember...i was in the 8th grade late 91 and u are nowhere near my age.....i dont believe you.

You asked if 2pac had the "juice" and was being monitored by the government, how come he couldn't go platinum like Ice Cube.

I answered your dumb question, and you continue to :juelzgif:

Now we're comparing comparing "Jump", done by some cute little kids with backwards clothing to a song about throwing a baby in a dumpster.

 

[smokeurobinson]

You asked if 2pac had the "juice" and was being monitored by the government, how come he couldn't go platinum like Ice Cube.

I answered your dumb question, and you continue to :juelzgif:

Now we're comparing comparing "Jump", done by some cute little kids with backwards clothing to a song about throwing a baby in a dumpster.

I was 13.......how old were u in late 91/early 92?

 

[Nomad1]

Let's be honest if Pac attacked her for no reason then you guys would be right. But if you have a lady collaborating with politicians to get a form of entertainment outlet banned, which would fukk up peoples money then why can't Tupac or any rapper call her out on it? What type of dumb logic is that?

Also, you guys forget to mention he said "instead of trying to help out a nikka, you destroy a brother, worse than the others".

And I always find it funny when people blame entertainment for societal problems. Gangsta rap did not harm anybody, government policies and Internal community decision making skills is what did a lot of damage to the Black community.

 

[SunZoo]

how old were u in late 91?

Old enough to not compare Jump to a song a bout a dumpter baby. How old are you? Probably too old to fukk a teenager I would imagine.

 

[ahdsend]

fukk you and Tucker. She was s c00n who aligned herself with white supremacists against blacks. Bill Bennett the cracker that she joined up with to try and take down rap, was a staunch racist and she knew it. You're up here whining about pac calling her a motherfukker when the devil she partnered with talked about aborting all black babies.

"You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down."
William Bennett Defends Comment on Abortion and Crime

 

[hustlemania]

Nah, I ain't get reduced to shyt.

What happened is you got corrected and refused to let it be what it is. You don't get extra points for continuing to ramble on. You sure as fukk get none for having to tag people to come back you up after the fact.

But again...that's your MO. His too, nikkas fighting tooth and nail to be dead ass wrong.

I ain't mad at cha

how you gonna correct somebody, when i gave you MULTIPLE reasons why you were dead ass wrong.. you've been proven wrong- numerous times in this thread.. you were writing big-ass paragraphs.. switch it up to a few bars..

"you dont get extra points for rambling on.. " thats ALL yo do, in EVERY Pac thread.. is ramble on, and on.. now that you got powerdrived in here.. all of a sudden- people are "rambling on.."

you WASNT AROUND IN 91/92 to REALLY know what was going on.. trying to rewrite hip-hop history..

stick to the era you know most about- the Eminem era..

 

[SunZoo]

Tell y'all what, if you ever see me in a thread trying to tag nikkas for back up, just neg me. Leave a comment saying "you acting like a bytch right about now".

You have my blessing.

 

[hustlemania]

Tell y'all what, if you ever see me in a thread trying to tag nikkas for back up, just neg me. Leave a comment saying "you acting like a bytch right about now".

why wouldnt i tag/ask peoples opinion who was actually around at that time..?

who should we be asking.. cats like yourself, who was either a toddler.. or, cats who wasnt around at all..?

 

[smokeurobinson]

Old enough to not compare Jump to a song a bout a dumpter baby. How old are you? Probably too old to fukk a teenager I would imagine.

I'll never forget that bs u and No Chill Jones said about talking to my teen son about hip hop....u said a bunch of unrealistic shyt that no Blackman with a teenage son would ever say to his son. Right then and there i knew u didnt have a teen son....but your only response was "u dont know what i got" but i could tell u dont have a teen son the same way i can tell u weren't really paying attention to what was going on in hip hop in 91.....I'm convinced of this cuz u couldnt answer a straight question then like u doing now. Once u start doing that bs your credibility is gone..... U posting all this irrelevant bs about the government monitoring Pac but cant even tell your damn age....FOH you weren't around in 1991, period end of story.


I'm truly done with you on this topic.....alert me all u want, we done over here.

 

[hustlemania]

I'll never forget that bs u and No Chill Jones said about talking to my teen son about hip hop....u said a bunch of unrealistic shyt that no Blackman with a teenage son would ever say to his son. Right then and there i knew u didnt have a teen son....but your only response was "u dont know what i got" but i could tell u dont have a teen son the same way i can tell u weren't really paying attention to what was going on in hip hop in 91.....I'm convinced of this cuz u couldnt answer a straight question then like u doing now. Once u start doing that bs your credibility is gone..... U posting all this irrelevant bs about the government monitoring Pac but cant even tell your damn age....FOH

I'm truly done with you on this topic.....alert me all u want, we done over here.

yall shouldve been up on game, when he was excusing Eminem for all that racist sh!t..

that, then & there.. let me know what era he was from..

how you claim to be a Pac stan.. but, say that man had no momentum before his album.. and, downplay how big Same Song was ..?
Dre & Eazy were in the video.. yknow how long ago that was, and even i remember that..

 

[SunZoo]

I'll never forget that bs u and No Chill Jones said about talking to my teen son about hip hop....u said a bunch of unrealistic shyt that no Blackman with a teenage son would ever say to his son. Right then and there i knew u didnt have a teen son....but your only response was "u dont know what i got" but i could tell u dont have a teen son the same way i can tell u weren't really paying attention to what was going on in hip hop in 91.....I'm convinced of this cuz u couldnt answer a straight question then like u doing now. Once u start doing that bs your credibility is gone..... U posting all this irrelevant bs about the government monitoring Pac but cant even tell your damn age....FOH you weren't around in 1991, period end of story.


I'm truly done with you on this topic.....alert me all u want, we done over here.

I don't owe you any information my nikka. And you STILL don't know what kinda responsibilities I have, and you don't need to know. Your son listening to shytty rap and not building any skills from within the culture is your problem, not mine.

And please keep your word this time, I make no vows to not correct you if you're gonna speak about me to someone else, so don't expect me to be quiet. You're more than welcome to fall back though. Don't be holding no grudge from this tagging me in random threads to "build" either...you don't wanna build shyt, you wanna argue and you're not even good at it.

 

[Bathing Ape]

Op trying too hard