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yea...I know "the snow is very (reflective)" :rudy:
My statement was a bit inaccurate, it's not about sunlight it's about UV rays and converting the UV rays to vitamin D. Inuit's get all the vitamin D they need from fatty fish and thus didn't need to decrease the melanin in their skin to absorb more UV rays to then turn into Vitamin D.
 

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this pretty much explains everything

"When the ancestors of modern man separated from apes, they were covered in hair. Little UV light reached their skin and as a result, anthropologists believe they were fair skinned. As modern humans evolved however, their body hair became finer and thinner, leaving their skin more exposed to the equatorial sun. To adapt, thier bodies produced more melanin to protect them from damaging UV rays. Increased melanin made their skin become darker.

As early humans started migrating north into Europe and east into Asia, they were exposed to different amounts of sun. Those who went north found their dark skin worked against them–preventing them from absorbing enough sunlight to create vitamin D. To adapt, these humans started producing less melanin."
 

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yea...I know "the snow is very (reflective)" :rudy:

it's not just that. there's very little shade at all. the definition of "tundra" is pretty much "no trees"

meanwhile peeps in europe were huddled in longhouses drinking mead
 

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it's not just that. there's very little shade at all. the definition of "tundra" is pretty much "no trees"

meanwhile peeps in europe were huddled in longhouses drinking mead
The thing is, it's so cold that the inuit's skin is never exposed to sunlight, yet they remain tan, which is because as I said, they get all the vitamin D they need from their diet of fish and thus didn't need to produce less melanin to absorb more UV rays.
 

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this pretty much explains everything

"When the ancestors of modern man separated from apes, they were covered in hair. Little UV light reached their skin and as a result, anthropologists believe they were fair skinned. As modern humans evolved however, their body hair became finer and thinner, leaving their skin more exposed to the equatorial sun. To adapt, thier bodies produced more melanin to protect them from damaging UV rays. Increased melanin made their skin become darker.

As early humans started migrating north into Europe and east into Asia, they were exposed to different amounts of sun. Those who went north found their dark skin worked against them–preventing them from absorbing enough sunlight to create vitamin D. To adapt, these humans started producing less melanin."

It's all clear now why you say the things you say(I know you can't read this). The racist darwin theory. So from apes came a 'fair skinned' people, then the sun 'burnt' them and became black, and then down the line received 'less' amounts of sun and became white again. You can't go from fair skin, to burnt black or in other words get black from white, dominant from recessive. Just not happening.
 

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It's all clear now why you say the things you say(I know you can't read this). The racist darwin theory. So from apes came a 'fair skinned' people, then the sun 'burnt' them and became black, and then down the line received 'less' amounts of sun and became white again. You can't go from fair skin, to burnt black or in other words get black from white, dominant from recessive. Just not happening.
I took you off ignore (forgot I had you on there). They're talking about the early ancestors of humans, the ones who were much more ape-like and were covered with body fur like we see in apes today. You obviously don't understand the mechanism about why skin colors change, and your elementary-esque description of the sun "burnt them" is fukking hilariously stupid and inaccurate. I'm sorry you believe these things my friend but your beliefs do not change the truth. Also, it's not proven that the fur covered early humans had fair skin, it's just hypothesized, the rest is scientifically factual. I personally don't care about skin color, but I find it interesting that the mechanism behind it has to do with Vitamin D and UV Rays. As for the continuing propagation of a certain skin color, that obviously comes down to genetics and passing on traits to offspring.
 

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It's all clear now why you say the things you say(I know you can't read this). The racist darwin theory. So from apes came a 'fair skinned' people, then the sun 'burnt' them and became black, and then down the line received 'less' amounts of sun and became white again. You can't go from fair skin, to burnt black or in other words get black from white, dominant from recessive. Just not happening.

youre the answer to this thread, because iLLAV3s thread was doing fine until u posted that photo sequence and somebody exploded. i guess it was so inaccurate, it had to go :rolleyes:

and lol at the white :wrist: who says nikka but tells people to be sensitive to eskimos. never know we might have some eskimos on the coli :skip:
 

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Originally Posted by Sensitive Blake Griffin
this pretty much explains everything

"When the ancestors of modern man separated from apes, they were covered in hair. Little UV light reached their skin and as a result, anthropologists believe they were fair skinned. As modern humans evolved however, their body hair became finer and thinner, leaving their skin more exposed to the equatorial sun. To adapt, thier bodies produced more melanin to protect them from damaging UV rays. Increased melanin made their skin become darker.

As early humans started migrating north into Europe and east into Asia, they were exposed to different amounts of sun. Those who went north found their dark skin worked against them–preventing them from absorbing enough sunlight to create vitamin D. To adapt, these humans started producing less melanin."

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I took you off ignore (forgot I had you on there). They're talking about the early ancestors of humans, the ones who were much more ape-like and were covered with body fur like we see in apes today. You obviously don't understand the mechanism about why skin colors change, and your elementary-esque description of the sun "burnt them" is fukking hilariously stupid and inaccurate. I'm sorry you believe these things my friend but your beliefs do not change the truth. Also, it's not proven that the fur covered early humans had fair skin, it's just hypothesized, the rest is scientifically factual. I personally don't care about skin color, but I find it interesting that the mechanism behind it has to do with Vitamin D and UV Rays. As for the continuing propagation of a certain skin color, that obviously comes down to genetics and passing on traits to offspring.

Son, I'm not the one who said you can get black from 'fair skin'(you really want to say white). You can't get black from white. show me how that goes...You say it's only hypothesized but if it makes no sense(obviously doesn't)then why post it :manny:. That whole post and your point started on shaky ground with "anthropologists believe" and collapsed. Little UV light reached them, so according to you, they should be light skin. Just like with the white people later who's skin 'adapted' to the sun.

Black people came first and white people later. This is fact.

My statement about the sun 'burning' the people making the black was only restating what you said. Because of the UV rays, these fair skin people's skin adapted and turned black. Am I reading something else?
 

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Son, I'm not the one who said you can get black from 'fair skin'(you really want to say white). You can't get black from white. show me how that goes...You say it's only hypothesized but if it makes no sense(obviously doesn't)then why post it :manny:. That whole post and your point started on shaky ground with "anthropologists believe" and collapsed. Little UV light reached them, so according to you, they should be light skin. Just like with the white people later who's skin 'adapted' to the sun.

Black people came first and white people later. This is fact.

My statement about the sun 'burning' the people making the black was only restating what you said. Because of the UV rays, these fair skin people's skin adapted and turned black. Am I reading something else?
There is a difference between UV rays and visible light my man. It's not like a black dude from Africa can travel to Europe and instantly become white, this was a very gradual slow process of change. The part that is conjecture isn't even concerning homo-sapiens, it's about our more ape-like ancestors, I think you're confusing the two.

If our more ape-like ancestors are covered in fur, it stops a large portion of UV rays hitting their skin and producing vitamin D. Thus they would need fair skin in order to absorb as much UV rays as possible, unless they were somehow getting it completely naturally from their diet like the Inuit do. (this is why it's still conjecture, as far as I know, we cannot determine the diet of these early ancestors to humans)

As those "early humans" shed their fur and evolved into our current state, their skin became exposed to too much UV rays and thus produced more melanin to protect itself and stabilize vitamin-d levels.

Then humans migrated north where there were less UV rays and thus needed to develop lighter skin colors to absorb more UV rays.
 

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youre the answer to this thread, because iLLAV3s thread was doing fine until u posted that photo sequence and somebody exploded. i guess it was so inaccurate, it had to go :rolleyes:

and lol at the white :wrist: who says nikka but tells people to be sensitive to eskimos. never know we might have some eskimos on the coli :skip:
:rudy:

it was a fukkin joke breh, some of yall have no damn sense of humor in the midst of these discussions.
 

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youre the answer to this thread, because iLLAV3s thread was doing fine until u posted that photo sequence and somebody exploded. i guess it was so inaccurate, it had to go :rolleyes:

and lol at the white :wrist: who says nikka but tells people to be sensitive to eskimos. never know we might have some eskimos on the coli :skip:

I thought that was dirty jerz's thread :leostare:
 

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Then humans migrated north where there were less UV rays and thus needed to develop lighter skin colors to absorb more UV rays.

:whoa:
they "developed" or had a mutation that was more beneficial? Your argument is that an african can move north and turn white?

I thought it was a "beneficial mutations" or some shyt like that?

It might be a semantic thing but i think it's important to continue to make that distinction no?
 

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uhh :huhldup:
they "developed" or had a mutation that was more beneficial? Your argument is that an african can move north and turn white?

I thought it was a "beneficial mutations" or some shyt like that?

It might be a semantic thing but i think it's important to continue to make that distinction no?
Nope. Not important at all, nor is it possible to know. Evolution and adaptation can happen in various ways. An African that is already black will remain black. Their offspring would be the ones developing a lighter skin tone.
 
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