well you can say that for literally everyone ever
ifs don't count what happened is what happened
LOL NO.. NO YOU CANT
well you can say that for literally everyone ever
ifs don't count what happened is what happened
Keep in mind you are arguing with someone who has tried to argue that Kobe was better than mike, that Scottie and Rodman were better than anyone Kobe spent any of his peak years with (apparently that was only 2004-2007), and that Shaq was Deandre Jordan status in 2004 while blaming Shaq for the 2004 final. The same poster who thinks Kobe was great in the 2000 finals and wants to discredit LeBron in games 6 and 7 in 2013 as well as basically the entire 2016 finals, yet defends Kobe's game 7 against Boston. Logic doesn't work with this one. I mean he's still using the 2007-08 breakdown of LeBron's skill set for fukks sake.well you can say that for literally everyone ever
ifs don't count what happened is what happened
Keep in mind you are arguing with someone who has tried to argue that Kobe was better than mike, that Scottie and Rodman were better than anyone Kobe spent any of his peak years with (apparently that was only 2004-2007), and that Shaq was Deandre Jordan status in 2004 while blaming Shaq for the 2004 final. The same poster who thinks Kobe was great in the 2000 finals and wants to discredit LeBron in games 6 and 7 in 2013 as well as basically the entire 2016 finals, yet defends Kobe's game 7 against Boston. Logic doesn't work with this one. I mean he's still using the 2007-08 breakdown of LeBron's skill set for fukks sake.
Jordan didn't make the finals 9 times. Kareem was in the finals for half of his career. Kareem had a better career at every stage. High school, college and pros.So did Larry Bird
That doesn't make him better than Jordan in his respective prime and LeBron at the same age they were when entering the league (22/23) was just as good if not better.
The Bucks did pull through in '71 after the addition of Oscar Robertson and it was a great run spearheaded by Kareem, but what happened the next two seasons after that? Are we holding him to the same standard that Bron is held to when he plays bad in the playoffs? Did prime Jordan ever have a run that putrid? No.
Jordan didn't make the finals 9 times. Kareem was in the finals for half of his career. Kareem had a better career at every stage. High school, college and pros.
Keep in mind you are arguing with someone who has tried to argue that Kobe was better than mike, that Scottie and Rodman were better than anyone Kobe spent any of his peak years with (apparently that was only 2004-2007), and that Shaq was Deandre Jordan status in 2004 while blaming Shaq for the 2004 final. The same poster who thinks Kobe was great in the 2000 finals and wants to discredit LeBron in games 6 and 7 in 2013 as well as basically the entire 2016 finals, yet defends Kobe's game 7 against Boston. Logic doesn't work with this one. I mean he's still using the 2007-08 breakdown of LeBron's skill set for fukks sake.
yea imma stop now
last time i got wrapped up in a debate with someone biased i typed damn near 10k words in a day
never again
Did Jordan make 9 finals or not?Don't you think Jordan produced nine seasons worthy of making the NBA FInals though
That's why I say it's just circumstances that he didn't get so and so accolade by comparison. If Scottie Pippen doesn't get knocked out by Bill Laimbeer one minute into the closeout game of the '89 conference finals that they lost by like 9 points, does he make the finals?
If he doesn't decide to retire due to the death of his father and play terrible baseball, then come back out of shape the next year and get embarrassed by the Magic, does he make the finals? Probably.
and while Kareem does have more finals appearances, it's not like him playing better than Jordan was the reason for that.
Did Jordan make 9 finals or not?
You choose to ignore why Kareem is better. He was better at an earlier age, for a longer period of time. High school. 79-2 record, 3 straight championships. Jordan, couldn't even make his team. College, 3 straight NCAA championships. Jordan, 1, piggybacking off of Sam Perkins and James Worthy. Nba, 6 championships in 10 tries. Jordan didn't even make 10 championships.No. and if you choose to ignore the circumstances around that, you choose to ignore why Jordan is better than Kareem.
Piggybacking? Kareem got 6 rings and 2 finals mvps!!! nikka had some good pigs to ride in the nba.You choose to ignore why Kareem is better. He was better at an earlier age, for a longer period of time. High school. 79-2 record, 3 straight championships. Jordan, couldn't even make his team. College, 3 straight NCAA championships. Jordan, 1, piggybacking off of Sam Perkins and James Worthy. Nba, 6 championships in 10 tries. Jordan didn't even make 10 championships.
You choose to ignore why Kareem is better. He was better at an earlier age, for a longer period of time. High school. 79-2 record, 3 straight championships. Jordan, couldn't even make his team. College, 3 straight NCAA championships. Jordan, 1, piggybacking off of Sam Perkins and James Worthy. Nba, 6 championships in 10 tries. Jordan didn't even make 10 championships.