List any GOAT player... None of them surpassing Kareem and Russell

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Jordan and LeBron are just better than Kareem and Russell at the sport of basketball. There's no need to parse that with "ringzzzz" when there are obvious circumstances that led to the disparity and college achievements should be left out of the discussion for NBA GOAT. You can definitely argue that Jordan and James have had impact on this game as a product to a comparable if not greater level, driving the leagues popularity for large stretches so there's no need to use that either. You can take 10 seconds go to wikipedia and copy and paste the bulletpoints of their achievements too

If only people knew what Cap shot in '72 and '73 in the playoffs. He'd be getting crushed in today's era for those performances and his postseason play in general was no more even than James/far less consistent than Jordan.
 
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Jordan and LeBron are just better than Kareem and Russell at the sport of basketball. There's no need to parse that with "ringzzzz" when there are obvious circumstances that led to the disparity

If only people knew what Cap shot in '72 and '73 in the playoffs. He'd be getting crushed in today's era for those performances, and his postseason play in general was no more even than James/far less consistent than Jordan.


LEBRON IS NOWHERE NEAR KAREEM
 

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NOT NEARLY AS SKILLED, TERRIBLE FOOTWORK, UNRELIABLE JUMPER FOR A WING, NO POST GAME FOR SOMEONE HIS SIZE

HE'S A PHYSICAL SPECIMEN WHO CAN BALL .. BUT HE'S NOT NEARLY AS SKILLED OR FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND AS CAP .. AND ACCOMPLISHMENTWISE, ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE
 

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Kareem turned a 27 win team into championship contenders as a rookie, then champions a year later. Thats just one point. There are several others.

So did Larry Bird

That doesn't make him better than Jordan in his respective prime and LeBron at the same age they were when entering the league (22/23) was just as good if not better.

The Bucks did pull through in '71 after the addition of Oscar Robertson and it was a great run spearheaded by Kareem, but what happened the next two seasons after that? Are we holding him to the same standard that Bron is held to when he plays bad in the playoffs? Did prime Jordan ever have a run that putrid? No.
 

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NOT NEARLY AS SKILLED, TERRIBLE FOOTWORK, UNRELIABLE JUMPER FOR A WING, NO POST GAME FOR SOMEONE HIS SIZE

HE'S A PHYSICAL SPECIMEN WHO CAN BALL .. BUT HE'S NOT NEARLY AS SKILLED OR FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND AS CAP .. AND ACCOMPLISHMENTWISE, ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE

I don't agree with any of that save for the jumpshot which has been unreliable for most of his career. Has not mattered much though because he's as good of a scorer in the paint this game has ever seen, and in his best season with Miami his spot up shooting was excellent.

He is great at backing down mismatches in the post and forcing help where he always makes the right read to the open shooting. It's not all about scoring but just facilitating offense itself, and he's one of the best in this game at doing that.

What accolades is he lacking in comparison to Cap. You mean the 5 rings, two of which Magic was the best player on the team. Are we talking FMVP's (3 to 2). Does two more MVP's really make a difference when LeBron has been the best player in the league for half his career
 

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So did Larry Bird

That doesn't make him better than Jordan in his respective prime and LeBron at the same age they were when entering the league (22/23) was just as good if not better.

The Bucks did pull through in '71 after the addition of Oscar Robertson and it was a great run spearheaded by Kareem, but what happened the next two seasons after that? Are we holding him to the same standard that Bron is held to when he plays bad in the playoffs? Did prime Jordan ever have a run that putrid? No.


PLEASE DONT COMPARE KAREEMS FAILURES TO LEBRONS .. LEBRON IS A COUPLE MIRACLE SHOTS AWAY FROM BEIN 1/7 IN THE FINALS
 

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I don't agree with any of that save for the jumpshot which has been unreliable for most of his career. Has not mattered much though because he's as good of a scorer in the paint this game has ever seen, and in his best season with Miami his spot up shooting was excellent.

He is great at backing down mismatches in the post and forcing help where he always makes the right read to the open shooting. It's not all about scoring but just facilitating offense itself, and he's one of the best in this game at doing that.

What accolades is he lacking in comparison to Cap. You mean the 5 rings, two of which Magic was the best player on the team. Are we talking FMVP's (3 to 2). Does two more MVP's really make a difference when LeBron has been the best player in the league for half his career


FOH LEBRON POST GAME BEEN WEAK AND HE CONSTANTLY GOES THROUGH LONG STRETCHES WHERE HE FREEZES UP AND ISNT EVEN NOTICEABLE ON THE COURT, DEFERRING TO EVERYONE AND LACKING ATTACK .. HE IS NOT AS SKILLED AS KAREEM, AND THERES NO WAY AROUND THAT.

KAREEM HAS 6 RINGS AND WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS HAVE A LOSING RECORD IN THE FINALS .. LEBRON IN 2011 FINALS WAS OUTPLAYED BY ROLE PLAYERS. NEVER EVERRERR CAME CLOSE TO HAPPENING TO CAP

STOP LETTIN BSPN DICTATE YOUR THOUGHTS
 
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