Wayne just didn't/hasn't evolved like one would have expected a rapper of his skills caliber and time in the game to get to. If he would have gotten to that point where he was spitting verses like he did on Hollywood Divorce then he would looked at a better light then he currently is.
Lil' Wayne Is One Of Those Rappers Where It Takes You Getn Older To Realize How Wack He Is
- Thread starter PhonZhi
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Dude really pulled out that bandana out 
BK The Great
Veteran
Wayne's brain, especially the people who ever thought his music was ever intelligent.
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Tell people you're the greatest rapper alive enough times and eventually that's the narrative they'll run with
nikka been absolute trash
nikka been absolute trash
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
Stupid nikkaz trying to rewrite history 
Alfred0Santana
I used to drop Lewinsky off at the White House.
It's been downhill since No Ceilings...way downhill
. Don't even check for his music anymore.
. Don't even check for his music anymore.Keep_It_Hip_Hop_Fam
All Star
He's been trash
He's up there with the likes of Bizarre from D12 and Silk the Shocker
He's up there with the likes of Bizarre from D12 and Silk the Shocker
wayne been wack since lollipop i was there i remember how nikkas felt when it first dropped...it grew on me only cause bytches in the club liked to grind to it back then....
Rhyme n Tekniq
Superstar
I haven't been a fan of Wayne since before he technically became "good".
I loved the HB's, I loved TBIH...then all of a sudden (Gillie) he started biting Jay Z and becomes this lyrical east coast darling...I got off the train right around C2.
Not to say he hasn't had good verses or songs since then but I just don't think it was a natural progression from shyt like this:
Like if Juvie all of a sudden started trying to rap like Nas I'd be like...
Sun, me and you are the same in that regard. I havent been a wayne fan since TBIH / Lights Out which still had me a lil worried. 500 degreez was all I could take, That was one of the hardest pills to swallow musically; I was a hair short of stanning wayne up to that point, not proud of it but its the truth. When that dud 500 dropped I knew it was over for CMR and all that Hotboy shyt And it was clear Wayne couldnt hold it down by himself at that time following the break up and was struggling to find a new identity outside of his HB persona;
He cut the braids offs, changed his cadence and dropped his famous adlibs and sound effects. But what really stood out to me was how content wise, he devolved IMO, Alot of the shyt he was spittin as a 13-16 yr old had more weight to it than the technically flashy kill-a-nikka mob talk seen on the carter series I.E. of the former; "Dirty World", "get it how u live", "fukk the world", "Its up to me", are better than his later songs on those Carter albums. so yeah.. I definitely dont think his career followed a natural progression considering the potential he showed on his earlier albums and group projects with he HBs.
Also about Juvey trying to rap like Nas, It sort of already happened IMO lol,.....................
That 1st verse ....Whew!
Ken Piffey Jr.
Pro
Auto tune Wayne was the end for me (right around Carter 3)... he also spawned all of this mumble rap
Jean Jacket
NOPE
Wayne had some crazy wordplay, but after so much saturation and no style evolution as well as his fukk ass skater persona painted him in a corner.
When he actually focuses on his content and uses the right production ( he rarely does either anymore) he makes those songs that make you go. I'm a just leave this gem in here for those who didn't get the Wayne hype back in his peak. He can be an all time great MC when he actually puts forth some kind of effort
I remember around this time people wanted to throw TI into the GOAT convo also
Yall remember a few message board arguments and act like it was popular opinion...nobody over 18 was saying that shyt
Tryna front on Wayne or T.I makes yall look more stupid then the Wayne stans
As sumbody who was a fan since Hot Boyz days...him being my favorite Hot Boy member,me knowing he would be the biggest out of the group
..i definitley think Wayne fell off a bit before Carter 3,because i remember expcting C3 to be wack as shyt,but to be hyped up by his new phony fans anyway....i stopped listening after we seen him kissing Baby in the mouth though,i guess becoming wack was yalls tipping point
?I jumped ship just at the right time,and yall can gtfoh acting like Wayne didnt hVe bars...Hotboys era Wayne had bars,calling him trash just goes to show you didnt listen,or you have anti south bias..
Black Ball
Superstar
Yeah Wayne wack now, but are you saying his prime material is wack to you now that you're older?
His prime shyt is still dope to me. All you really saying is that dude fell off, which we all know.
His prime shyt is still dope to me. All you really saying is that dude fell off, which we all know.