Lil' Wayne Is One Of Those Rappers Where It Takes You Getn Older To Realize How Wack He Is

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I never took wayne seriously.

but then again, I'm only like 2 years younger than the bul.

its usually just you young naïve niccas gassin him up.

and lol @ people up here boo-hooing over somebody throwing a drink at wayne. man up.
 

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Yeah like personifying a gun is somehow more creative than conceptualizing Hip-Hop as a dying patient that needs to be saved due to a number of issues.
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You would've thought Nas is the type of rapper to ironically do a song like that, logically since he wrote "Hip-Hop Is Dead". Can't believe of all the stupid shyt I read in here, Nas stans like you are the only ones who act like he has a monopoly on Rap songs with concepts.

Nas has way more actually creative songs than that, not to mention Organized Konfusion executed that way better 2 years before he did, besides doing it first.


Also, him being a "singles rapper" is retarded considering a huge part of his career wasn't even as popular as others excluding the C3. He was just as a creative as an emcee in his prime, like the others he was competing with.
But of course, once again you nikkas just focus on hit songs and not entire albums.
New Orleans wasn't as dikkrided as other Southern cities, until Birdman became a household name with CMB.

Southern Rap at the time lacked in being lyrically inclined in Braggadocious Rap (still does even more today), him and Luda upped the ante since then as previous rappers didn't bother trying to up their bars (Outkast were better as storytellers anyways) and usage of literary devices.

Other than Outkast, Luda, Scarface, he's the only Southern emcee in that decade who got sharper towards his prime ending, while the others quickly regressed as they began. He's meh in this decade, but to discount what he contributed as a rapper before the Auto-Tune craze, can't be forgotten or taken away from him.

As an example 50 did mixtapes before him, but Wayne revolutionized the method of how to use them to showcase an emcee's versatility to attract different kinds of Rap fans. Without him, Rap would've been one-dimensional as hell, and you wouldn't be seeing so many upcoming rappers constantly grinding.

Also, how is he not considered Hip-Hop, when he's the best rapper that ever made joints with DJ Drama?


@PhonZhi you be always making threads about the wrong rappers who you think "ruined Hip-Hop" when you have hundreds of nikkas who couldn't rap for shyt Hip-Hop dikkrided instead because they have better hits, they were from other cities, or they appeal to cacs like Em.

You nikkas love throwing certain Black rappers under the bus who gave their life to the game, and then you have the audacity to say HE is why this generation fukked up? Mind you, Kanye and T-Pain not only started those trends, but they were way more influential as commercial artists than he ever was - with that singer/rapper bullshyt.
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Amazing, he does a mass appeal type of verse on a radio single from a Khaled project, but you're gonna use that for as much negative clickbait as possible to make it seem as if hundreds of rappers (you two also love) never used that formula to branch out.:sas2:


they also did the Belly Button Window concept before NaS. no hate tho. :sas2:
 

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I try fam.

:salute:

And like I said...I ain't been a fan of Wayne in a long time but I still love that nikka on the strenght of Hip Hop (not rap music)...If I had been at that concert where dude threw the cup I would have shined that nikkas head. I just know wtf I'm talmbout...Wayne's progression was inorganic as fukk, and so were lot of the people that all of a sudden championed him and started mentioning him with the likes of Pac.

But it's ok....I love this shyt, critique Wayne if you got the chops, but don't disrespect Hip Hop or the art of rap by buying a fukking ticket to a show just to fukk it up for everybody. shyt raised my blood pressure.

#Protectlilwayne

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@mag357
This wasn't natural progression? Most rappers weren't even this smooth from album to album on tweaking their overall Rap style. He's been rapping in that style since he went solo. Like from Lights Out to 500 Degreez, to the C1, then C2 didn't have a steady growth in any of his Rap abilities? It took him the shyt after C3 to slowly dumb down his material, like most said in "2009 is when he became :trash: " because he barely put in effort like he did just the previous year. He still kept his style, but it significantly got lazier due to his lean addiction.
Like most rappers who fell off, praise went straight to his head.

Lights Out:

Lil Wayne – Tha Blues Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

500 Degreez:

https://genius.com/Lil-wayne-fukk-you-lyrics

Tha Carter:

Lil Wayne – Go DJ Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

C2:

Lil Wayne – Fly In Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

From LO to C2, you can see how his punchlines had better references overtime and how his word choice improved the syntax of the punchlines. Many of his signatures are on full display even early on. His vocabulary increased slightly on each project, and even did more storytelling and concepts as time went on. His rhyme schemes weren't "great overnight" either, he was focused more on rhyming with each track I linked here than the previous song. "Go DJ" alone, showed how much he honed his skills since his last album that "fukk You" was on, which was only 2 years prior.

Usually, I agree with @SunZoo and @Zero, but when has Gillie ever wrote rap verses that seem like he took his time with them?
:mjlol:

You telling me a Philly nikka, can rap in the style and personality of a New Orleans native? Emulating how they write, flow, use slang and talk (example Mystikal and Juvenile) is not easy to replicate.
He also said multiple times he never wrote for him, but gave him tips because Wayne was already great as a rapper.

Outside of Black Thought, Philly isn't known for complex or interesting emcees, the same way New York is.
 
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This wasn't natural progression? He's been rapping on that style since he became a solo artist. Like from Lights Out to 500 Degreez, to the C1, then C2?

Lights Out:

Lil Wayne – Tha Blues Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

500 Degreez:

https://genius.com/Lil-wayne-fukk-you-lyrics

Tha Carter

Lil Wayne – Go DJ Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

C2:

Lil Wayne – Fly In Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
From LO to C2, you can see how his punchlines had better references overtime and how his word choice improved the syntax of the punchlines. Many of his signatures are on full display even early on. His vocabulary increase slightly on each project, and even did more storytelling and concepts as time went on. His rhyme schemes weren't "great overnight" either, he was focused more on rhyming with each track I linked here than the previous song. "Go DJ" alone, showed how much he honed his skills since his last album that "fukk You" was on, which was only 2 years prior.

Usually, I agree with you 2, but when has Gillie ever wrote rap verses that seem like he took his time with them?
You telling me a Philly nikka, can rap in the style and personality of a New Orleans native? Emulating how they write, flow, use slang and talk is not easy to replicate.
He also said multiple times he never wrote for him, but gave him tips because Wayne was already great as a rapper.

He could have been written for or he could have just looked up to Gillie and eronously tried to imitate his style which took his development in a different direction.

I ain't mad at anything you said, we quick to talk about how Wayne fell off but not fell on...if you don't like him anymore, talk about what made you like him in the first place.

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This thread got me going back through Wayne's timeline

This song was a disgrace :scust:



Gillie saved that nikka's career
 

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ehh... it's a little easy to for this to be considered a hot-take because of how badly he's been mismanaged as an artist his entire career and how trash he's been currently.

But he's arguably one of the most impactful/influential rappers of all time.
Even Kendrick points to Wayne as being one of his top influences.



Freestyles like these still up hold as being great.


This.

04/5-2011 was an epic ass run

It just sucks that he's still the same Wayne...
his brand is stale as fukk and he hasn't rebranded or anything

People really underestimate just how much future has changed the game, practically birthing a new sound

All the rappers from the 2000s are barely hangin on

:sas2:
 

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This thread got me going back through Wayne's timeline

This song was a disgrace :scust:



Gillie saved that nikka's career


nikka who saved Gillie's career from instantly tanking? His own city wasn't even supporting him the way they did other rappers. Wayne already had New Orleans backing him then soon the rest of the South, Philly barely had Rap on lock outside of when Hov put The Roc on the map.

@SunZoo

For some nikkas who love Gillie why hasn't the Booth made threads about his rapping then? Just saying, every Hip-Hop Head I talked to, tell me he is :scust: level of crusty, watered down, moldy Philly cheesesteaks. Usually ghostwriters are excellent rappers thereby who are able to provide some sort of literary aide in improving a rapper's writing skill, linguistics or even reading comprehension. Gillie don't seem like the type of rapper who the Booth praises on a daily basis.

:hubie:
 

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This thread got me going back through Wayne's timeline

This song was a disgrace :scust:



Gillie saved that nikka's career


And you really gonna again pick out one damn song, when you can't even pick better examples I gave from that same album and later projects of his?
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If we did that to most emcees, the Booth would never be satisfied and fickle as fukk on choosing what makes a "perfect rapper".
 

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Great thread

Was nodding wildly at all the negs Wayne was catching as I read this on my way to work this morning

Then I drew for Carter 2

:blessed: :wow:

I hear you tho :myman:
 

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Nah nikka you are just that stupid, what other lyricist at the time came up with this concept before or after him?

THIS nikka acts like y'all on here and still took the decency to breakdown why "Dr. Carter" was a statement at the time in the state of Rap, when the South had prove others wrong that it wasn't their fault. Eventually, Nas even admitted everyone including himself made Hip-Hop into what it digressed, but for some reason no one remarks about the rappers who felt differently on the entire matter.



The East Coast said "Hip-Hop Is Dead", yet didn't do a damn thing to even try and save it, beginning to ride on other regions waves. This was true that it needed saving, because Crunk and Auto-Tune was about take over in the game. Even Southern rappers like T.I., Luda, Chamillionaire we're clowning on nikkas who misrepresented the South.
Wayne finally took their sentiments and made a song about exactly what went on. nikkas on here criticize punchline rappers, when you nikkas make nonstop dikkriding threads on the ones who choose to make special exceptions for how "They kept Rap alive", yet didn't even try to write a song like this. Where are the other GOAT punchline rappers that actually wrote shyt about preserving their culture that made them who they are?

Oh.....that's right, but Wayne somehow was the one everyone wanted to the point the finger at, while 100's of others who got undeserved praise didn't do jack shyt.

:camby:

@PhonZhi sometimes you be "Selectively c00ning" when it suits your narratives for threads like these, but it's alright keep making threads about how the media brainwashes Hip-Hop, when from time to time you will make straw-men threads like this when you barely know shyt about the rappers you criticize like cacs do.

But you won't make a thread about Lil' Jon I see.....:sas2:
 
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Nah nikka you are just that stupid, what other lyricist at the time came up with this concept before or after him?

THIS nikka acts like y'all on here and still took the decency to breakdown why "Dr. Carter" was a statement at the time in the state of Rap, when the South had prove others wrong that it wasn't their fault. Eventually, Nas even admitted everyone including himself made Hip-Hop into what it digressed, but for some reason no one remarks about the rappers who felt differently.



The East Coast said "Hip-Hop Is Dead", yet didn't do a damn thing to even try and save it, beginning to ride on other regions waves. This was true that it needed saving, because Crunk and Auto-Tune was about take over in the game. Even Southern rappers like T.I., Luda, Chamillionaire we're clowning on nikkas who misrepresented the South.
Wayne finally took their sentiments and made a song about exactly what went on. nikkas on here criticize punchline rappers, when you nikkas make nonstop dikkriding threads on the ones who choose to make special exceptions for how "They kept Rap alive", yet didn't even try to write a song like this. Where are the punchline rappers that actually wrote shyt about preserving their culture that made them who they are?

Oh.....that's right but Wayne somehow was the one everyone wanted to the point the finger at, while 100's of others who got undeserved praise didn't do jack shyt.

:camby:

didnt read:mjlol:
 
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