Lil Wayne calls Andre 3000's remarks about rapping over 40 "depressing"

[King Poetic]

Wayne just like Drake haven’t grown up in music and still rapping on the same shyt..

 

[Dad]

Someone on here said he talks like a dirt bike

 

[Yehuda]

The context about Andre that’s missing from this discussion, is that in all reality he gave up on hip hop over 20 YEARS AGO…his last full length rap contribution was released in the year 2000 (Stankonia)…The Love Below was very famously not rap…the greatest rap group of all time was prematurely ended AT IT’S ABSOLUTE PEAK, because Andre could no longer be bothered to make hip hop at any kind of full time basis or even perform hip hop music that he already created…the “oh people don’t want to hear what I have to rap about at 48” bullshyt is just the latest excuse from a guy that lost his passion for rapping literally decades ago…literally nothing but sporadic one-off verses from him since the year 2000, when he was 24 years old.

So the whole subject matter and age thing conversation from him is a disingenuous take from an artist who while obviously immensely talented at the craft, has treated the art form as some kind of burdensome nuisance that’s kept him from his true calling as a painfully mediocre actor or…hilariously….a conceptual jazz flutist

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

I know it's not Eminem stans in this thread clowning Wayne

 

[904]

Has anyone acknowledged why Wayne looks like he just left the dentist lately?

Face look swole as fukk

 

[The Eliminator]

Rapping over 40 or whatever,but at least he raps and doesn't drop an album of flute instrumentals

 

[Family Lives Matter]

Has anyone acknowledged why Wayne looks like he just left the dentist lately?

Face look swole as fukk

You mean a man with years of substance abuse doesn't look in the best health at middle age?

 

[Black Mamba]

Game is corny and trash

Him killing g unit still stings eh

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Yup. It’s just like boxers and wrestlers who all say the same thing about not being the old guy who hangs on too long until they inevitably become just that. Roy Jones being the best recent example. He was adamant he’d retire early out of fear of being badly hurt. Then every couple months seemed like a video dropped of him being slept in a nasty way.

B-Hop said he was going to retire at 40 but kept going until he got knocked out of the ring at 50 or 51

 

[I'm Blackman]

Andre3000 has always had hangups about being old. He was saying this shyt even when he was younger. He literally made a song called Chronomentrophobia where he says




Plus he rapped about fear of being a washed up old nikka in Party with Beyonce, the beginning of the Players Anthem video, Growing Old, etc etc.

this....he always talked about it.

 

[987654321]

shyt sound like you talkin’ in the fan

The autotune is permanent now?

 

[Big Boss]

Not sure what message we're supposed to take from this.

Wayne has been rapping about the same shyt for 20 years. Andre is not going to do "Crumblin' Erb 2" at damn near 50.

That's the issue. It's not as if Wanye is rapping about going grocery shopping and doing laundry. Andre is saying he doesn't think (and he's probably wrong) nobody wants to hear him rap about mundane 48 year old shyt.

Fred.

Facts

 

[FlimFlam]

Framing this by them being commercial mass media hip hop artists...

the target demographic and ultimate determinate of commercial mass media success being white youth and white folks generally I can see how this has become an impasse. White kids and white folks at large aren't interested in black middle aged humanity... hip hop or beyond...

there isn't a successful model to build upon and or tweak...

Black people got all kinds of elder performers of several generes touring and dropping music but they arent mass commercial artists (pardon the redundancy...im just tryin to be clear in my point)

Them rolling stones pearl jams moments aint coming

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Framing this by them being commercial mass media hip hop artists...

the target demographic and ultimate determinate of commercial mass media success being white youth and white folks generally I can see how this has become an impasse. White kids and white folks at large aren't interested in black middle aged humanity... hip hop or beyond...

there isn't a successful model to build upon and or tweak...

Black people got all kinds of elder performers of several generes touring and dropping music but they arent mass commercial artists (pardon the redundancy...im just tryin to be clear in my point)

Them rolling stones pearl jams moments aint coming

Nah this is bullshyt…an Outkast tour would be WILDLY SUCCESSFUL…look no further than the Nas/Wu tour the past couple of years…it’d be bigger than that…but performing his hip hop classics is beneath Andre for whatever reason

 

[Supa]

This is such trash Yall choosing sides bc it’s Andre. Saying you have nothing to talk about bc you’re 40 is an indictment on his artistry. Nas just dropped 6 albums, jay dropped 4:44, killer Mike hit his peak at or around 40, Andre himself his last feature was on a 40+ Kanye album

We and a lot of older rappers spend a lot of time advocating rap to be treated like other genres, to fight the age stigma that seems to only exist in rap. Styles P was just speaking on it. Rock acts make music and tour into their 70s. We trying to get that respect….yet bc Andre 3k says some nut ass shyt we supposed to agree.

Nah, it was a dumbass comment

Andre's comment was real and you're confusing his point. He's asking how does an old rapper talk about his day to day life and still make it interesting. He didn't say you can't be old and rap. It's about the content and how the audience connects to it.

Nas is 50 but he still mixes in old street stories into his music. Nas ain't been in the streets in decades. That's not his day to day. Ask him to make an album only talking about the present 50 year old Nas and I bet he'd have a harder time coming up with something because there's still a need to be cool and interesting. He'd probably say his current life is too boring to make into an album.

What is Wayne saying today that shows his age? A Wayne verse at 41 is a Wayne verse at 25.

Jadakiss is still talking about coke and street shyt at 48. You can go back to Money, Power, and Respect and it's the same Kiss.

Pusha still talking about coke at 46.

That's the case for most of rappers. They're not making songs about taking their kids to soccer practice and helping with homework. Dudes will be at home at night with their wives but get in the booth and rap about hoes. None of that is real. What good is rapping into your late 40's if you still have to act like you're in your 20's? You age but your content doesn't.

Dre was talking about making his current life into an album. Sure he could mix in stories about old shyt and just write random bars but that's not what he wants to do. He's not outside. Going to the laundromat and playing his flute is a highlight of his day but that's not translating into an album.

And funny you mentioned Styles because he said he's retired as a solo artist.