lets talk about how SCARFACE = the GOAT movie

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A lot of people like the character of Tony Montana for the wrong reasons. They say stuff like "He's good because he strives to be his own boss" and but forgot that he was addicted to cocaine, had his wife leave him, and ended up getting killed by men sent out by his supplier.

:mindblown:
and was clouded by his stupidity, jealousy and blindness..killed his best friend, indirectly got his sister merked too.
 

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A lot of people like the character of Tony Montana for the wrong reasons. They say stuff like "He's good because he strives to be his own boss" and but forgot that he was addicted to cocaine, had his wife leave him, and ended up getting killed by men sent out by his supplier.

:mindblown:


people admire tony montana because he had the biggest balls.

his balls were just bigger than his brain.
 

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It feeds the ego of the try hard douche tards.

It had horrible writing...

Tony comes out looking like a moron.

Carlito's Way was smarter, and a better classic to me. Carlito won, he got out the game, but he fukked by thinking coming home meant he wasn't going to be doing anymore dirty work. Even after taking the 30k (in what was an epic shoot out scene), he still only had to do one thing while running the Nightclub.....kill one guy, Benny...but he doesn't and that ultimately fukks his whole escape up...

Basically, betrayal is better than a mindless grunt getting shot in the back of the head on a coke binge.
 

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It feeds the ego of the try hard douche tards.

It had horrible writing...

Tony comes out looking like a moron.

Carlito's Way was smarter, and a better classic to me. Carlito won, he got out the game, but he fukked by thinking coming home meant he wasn't going to be doing anymore dirty work. Even after taking the 30k (in what was an epic shoot out scene), he still only had to do one thing while running the Nightclub.....kill one guy, Benny...but he doesn't and that ultimately fukks his whole escape up...

Basically, betrayal is better than a mindless grunt getting shot in the back of the head on a coke binge.
Thats what made Carlitos Way so ill to me
I mean I aint want the muthafukka to get killed
But Benny Blanco was an afterthought
He wasnt even thinking about that muthafukka!
He pretty much beat the game, escape was right there, and just when he thinks hes in the clear, he gets smoked by some sucker he tossed out the club.
Thats the hood for you
 

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It feeds the ego of the try hard douche tards.

It had horrible writing...

Tony comes out looking like a moron.

Carlito's Way was smarter, and a better classic to me. Carlito won, he got out the game, but he fukked by thinking coming home meant he wasn't going to be doing anymore dirty work. Even after taking the 30k (in what was an epic shoot out scene), he still only had to do one thing while running the Nightclub.....kill one guy, Benny...but he doesn't and that ultimately fukks his whole escape up...

Basically, betrayal is better than a mindless grunt getting shot in the back of the head on a coke binge.
nikkas got this all wrong

Carlito was a damn fool... out here being a boss, while running dumb ass criminal errands for his coked up lawyer... any of that could have him dead or in jail again... then beating up another kid on the come up, but letting him live, not even keeping eyes on him... knowing he was running shyt in the bronx and was looking to rise up

fukk he thought he was just gonna run away with that ugly broad on the train... i mean damn... nikka didn't even drive out of town


scarface was doing just fine... the ONLY mistake he made, was not killing kids.. had he said fukk it and let dude blow up the car, alex would have been cool. they'd have kept making money... maybe manny dies, maybe tony comes home in a better mood and doesn't kill him

but everything else would have been cool



why people love scarface is cause he came from nothing and took over... came out in the 80s.. miami was that life.. coke was everywhere.. everyone was dealing.. crack started coming out.. and everyone was watching like "damn this could be me... little ghetto nikka just taking what he want and making it rich"
 

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nikkas got this all wrong

Carlito was a damn fool... out here being a boss, while running dumb ass criminal errands for his coked up lawyer... any of that could have him dead or in jail again... then beating up another kid on the come up, but letting him live, not even keeping eyes on him... knowing he was running shyt in the bronx and was looking to rise up

fukk he thought he was just gonna run away with that ugly broad on the train... i mean damn... nikka didn't even drive out of town


scarface was doing just fine... the ONLY mistake he made, was not killing kids.. had he said fukk it and let dude blow up the car, alex would have been cool. they'd have kept making money... maybe manny dies, maybe tony comes home in a better mood and doesn't kill him

but everything else would have been cool



why people love scarface is cause he came from nothing and took over... came out in the 80s.. miami was that life.. coke was everywhere.. everyone was dealing.. crack started coming out.. and everyone was watching like "damn this could be me... little ghetto nikka just taking what he want and making it rich"


Firstly, in Scarface he was gonna chainswaed the fukk up, so he started with a huge L.....secondly, he broke rule number 1, never get high off your own supply. Thirdly (and this is the important one), he thought he was big time, while still needing a supplier...it was a tale about foolish ambition.

In Carlito's Way yes he was still doing criminal acts, but that stops when he gets the 30k and opens up the night club. As we see, all Carlito had to do was kill Benny, that's it. In Scarface, he was far too gone, and he was gonna get wrapped up quick...killing cops? :why: You're done. And he didn't take over, he had a spot, but there's no way he was gonna surpass Sosa. In fact, he was still taking orders from Sosa till the very end. Tony thought ignoring his one and only supplier/boss was gonna end well for him? That's called delusion my friend.


Carlito was out of the game, he simply had to kill one guy and he would've taken that train to freedom. In Scarface, Tony was a deluded cokehead (redundant as it may sound), and eventually thought he could take on a death squad.:snoop:.

People love Scarface because its a gangster film, the same way people like King of New York, it was cool to be a shot caller (still is), but what many in the audience tend to forget, is that many of these gangsters are just lackey's to the real boss. Basically both die due to one major flaw, however, Tony was pushing everyone away and was passed saving, a guy like that is gonna get killed eventually, either by the DEA or Sosa.
 

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As I write scripts and watch movies more closely, Scarface isn't great. Just has great standout parts. I hate the ending which Belly bit. Bosses have assassins. They don't send hit squads to make the news.
 

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What we're failing to consider here is that if Carlito would have killed Benny Blanco, how do we know his people still wouldn't have killed Carlito in retaliation??? Still would have ended up in the same way. Dead.
 

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How can a movie that was essentially a flop when it came out and has never been critically regarded in any way be overrated?

It's easily one of the most entertaining movies ever made and Tony Montana is probably the most entertaining charterer ever. People mad cause rappers and athletes have a picture of Tony hanging up in their homes? :mjlol:
 
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