lets talk about how SCARFACE = the GOAT movie

[R=G]

Ok movie highly overrated the parts that are good are classic but the movie is just too long and a lot of boring scenes imo

Going too far again..its a extremely entertaining movie because Tony backs down from no one. Him being a real man and not resorting to killing kids and shyt..it had decent layers but he got too high and his obsession with his sister's sex life was a negative he couldn't afford.

 

[DaRealness]

he wasnt really supposed to be a drug lord though he had a pretty minor operation until tony took that huge deal and kinda forced him into taking on serious weight

i mean he picked up what at first, 2 keys for frank at the hotel?

He was a drug lord though. Obviously not on the same level as Sosa but he was described as a big time rich boss before the hit on Rubenga(sp?) plus those two keys were just an introduction and probably a setup for Tony and Manolo.

Regardless, he was still a boss and no boss would allow their workers to openly disrespect and humiliate them like that. That was super unrealistic.

 

[the cac mamba]

He was a drug lord though. Obviously not on the same level as Sosa but he was described as a big time rich boss before the hit on Rubenga(sp?) plus those two keys were just an introduction and probably a setup for Tony and Manolo.

maybe youre right i thought he wasnt that big, kinda one foot in one foot out

 

[R=G]

Thats what made Carlitos Way so ill to me
I mean I aint want the muthafukka to get killed
But Benny Blanco was an afterthought
He wasnt even thinking about that muthafukka!
He pretty much beat the game, escape was right there, and just when he thinks hes in the clear, he gets smoked by some sucker he tossed out the club.
Thats the hood for you

"Coming back AFTER ALL THESE YEARS/RAT TAT TAT TAT/Thats the Way It Is"

 

[R=G]

Mama Montana was the GOAT of the movie

" You know, all we read about in the papers today are animals like you and the killings. It's Cubans like you who are giving a bad name to our people. People who come here to work hard and make an honest living for themselves.

Son? I wish I had one! He's a bum! He was a bum then and he's a bum now! Who do you think you are, hm? We haven't heard a word from you in five years. Cinco anos. You suddenly show up here and you throw money at us? You think you can *buy* me with your money?

No that is NOT the way I am, Antonio! That is *not* the way I raised Gina to be. You are not going to destroy her. I don't need your money. Gracias! I work for my living. *I don't want you in this house anymore!* I don't want you around Gina! So come on, get out! And take this lousy money with you! It stinks!

I love how the sister just couldn't wait to turn heel and embrace the money and the businesses he put out in her name..she could not wait to be a villain Another flick of a pretty girl turned out in record time.

 

[Geek Nasty]

It's an entertaining movie that's fun to watch but looking back, some of it is just ridiculous.

Case in point, Frank's character. You don't get to be a druglord in 80s Miami by being a pushover and a punk. The way they had Tony blatantly disrespecting and screaming at his boss all the time and then taking his woman right in front of him was just laughable to say the least. Any real druglord would have had Tony in a ditch somewhere way before it got to that. Not even second in commands disrespect their bosses like that.

Then that scene with him pathetically crying and begging for his life.....

Youre looking at it from 1980+ eyes. That isn't what the drug game was back then. It was a new market. Drugs went from hippies selling each other dime bags to coke coming in and big money. Now people were willing to kill you for your clientele. Frank was a 70s dealer who wasn't tough enough when the game changed.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Movie is ass. Don't care what anyone says.

 

[Originalman]

Moronic or not..in the drug game..the more violent u are, u get bigger and bigger. That's Escobar basically..he didn't care about human life or consequences so he ELIMINATED EVERYBODY..even Presidental nominees. All he had to do was not fight the govt after he tried to get a Senate seat and he would of been continued being one of the richest men on earth.

^ true a lot of these kats don't know how the drug game was in miami and LA in the 80s. Dudes would roll up in broad daylight with machine guns and start having shoot outs.

 

[Originalman]

I was late as hell in seeing scarface. I didn't see it til like 2000 or so. so I NEVER understood the skit at the beginning of raekwon's "criminology" until MUCH MUCH later

Wow so you don't even know that the rapper scarface been using skits (references) to the movie for almost 30 years?

 

[jaguar paw]

The more I see this movie the more I think its overrated.

It definitely is and this was like a bible to me as a teenager.

 

[Originalman]

It's on one of the Cinemax channels right now I just noticed that Tony ate a lemon from hand wash fingerbowl post meal.

Never noticed that until now





That's a great small detail to show you how quickly he was moving.

Yep and how he wasn't really a cultured man. Folks forget how ahead of its time the movie was. From the colors to the clothes (which would be copied on shows like Miami Vice) to extreme violence associated with drug dealing.

Also in the first act the writers were taking incidents from real life and incorporating them in the movie. The cuban exile and how the cuban criminals and columbians started to flood miami with dope. How cops and judges were on payrolls and the open shoot outs and murder and assasinations were going on in miami.

Not to mention banks and real estates and companies washing money and the biggest kick a OPEN discussion/meeting of latin countries and drug dealers being involved with the US government to push drugs (this shyt never hits the headline news until the mid 90s when Gary Webb and Mike Ruppert begin commenting on this).

The shyt was the wild wild west in the 80s. That is also why the movie is so long and based in 2 parts. The first part is factual and the 2nd part is more in line with a hollywood movie.

But it is refreashing to see all that shyt happening at that time and they actaully put it in the movie. Which I highly doubt hollywood now a days would even touch current subject matter and lay it out this openly on a big budget film.

Last even seeing this as a kid I felt it was far more realistic than any of the godfather movies. There was no happy ending or a moment to reflect. All the ignorant violent shyt that Tony did came back to get him at the end. He lost everything.....his business, sister, friend, wife and his life. And that is how it normally is for folks who live that life style either an extremely violent death, or the fed get you (hell and they might still sell you out and you die a violent death).

 

[IslandG]

Watched it last night and it’s still as entertaining as ever.

Not sure why people criticize the acting, the acting is fine. Great even. People say Pacino overacted but to me that matches or works well with the character that Montana is.

Shout out to Tony’s mom. Great acting. When she broke down in tears when Tony left the house to go look for Gina you could feel her pain as she realized that everything she feared and fought to prevent still happened despite her efforts.

 

[the cool]

The more I see this movie the more I think its overrated.

Ok movie highly overrated the parts that are good are classic but the movie is just too long and a lot of boring scenes imo

Movie is ass. Don't care what anyone says.

yeah this movie isn’t very good. I bought the dvd back in the day too. Only watched it once and traded it