Lets talk about how DMX ran 98 with a ironfist

[Notorioushnic]

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[mbewane]

No doubt...but I always felt Capital Punishment was so slept on and was better than It's Dark...., I know its an un-popular opinion, but I was such a backpacker back then and I always though Pun's lyricism on that album was underrated at the time.

Two different lanes I'd say, Capital Punishment is dope too

 

[Notorioushnic]

go watch the hard knock life dvd on youtube
dame clearly says its a roc a fella/ruff ryder partnership
he even gets mad because at the ruff ryder camp about not participating more and being in more scenes

dont let the tour name fool you

dmx was bigger den jay-z in 98
and the anticipation and build up to his album was crazy

I remember going to copp Flesh of My Flesh and the line was packed! Dude had hood nikkas and suburban folks checking for that album. They literally had to re-stock 3 times that same day because both tapes and cds were flying off the shelves
That nikka X was a phenomenon.

 

[dubsmith_nz]

DMX's verse on this was just

 

[Filluminati]

X , one of the realest cats to ever do it.

And pls, he was MUCH bigger than Jay in 98. Jay-Z became Jay-Z after the Nas fiasco / blueprint etc.

 

[Harry B]

nikka nobody giving a fukk about no JayZ here. Since I'm on it JayZ basically benefited off DMX's popularity by using Swizz and the Ruff Ryders to incorporate more street appeal into Hard Knock Life Volume 2 . DMX was headlining tours in 1999 with Cash Money all over the Country while JayZ was stabbing fat nikkas for bootlegging his albums in clubs. Jay didn't really get that Megastar appeal until Blueprint dropped. Jay was emerging as a star, Hard Knock certified him as a player but X ran 1998-2000. Thats was his peak

1998 Jay-z headlined a sold-out tour and DMX opened for him, in 1998 Jay-z dropped one album that sold as much as both DMX's albums. In 1998 Jay-z had hits.

DMX was big but not bigger than Jay-z in 98. In 98 and 99 perhaps combined.

But from 98 to 2000 Jay-z had more hits and sold as many records, headlined the tours.


But it's been established that Jay-z is not a gimmick rapper, 2 years is not in his plan, to reign every year for 2 decades is more of his thing.

 

[Harry B]

The only reason I don't regard DMX in the levels of other legends is cause he doesn't have albums fukking with them. He doesn't have longevity fukking with them.


I'm more likely to compare him to 50 cent (who probably(definitely) had a bigger influence than X) than someone like Ice Cube.
He has like 3 3-4 mic albums and 1 great album, like a Lil Wanye without longevity & tons of classic mixtapes.


I don't really give a fukk about hype and sales, the quality of DMX's music is not on the level of a legends. Certain songs yes, but nah I wouldn't call him Kwame Brown but he's a 1st pick bust.

 

[Northern Son]

Legend.

Contemporary Hip hop needs a DMX to kill the skinny jeans swag fakkit movement.

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[ManBearPig]

he had a nice run

 

[intilectual recipricol]

1998 Jay-z headlined a sold-out tour and DMX opened for him, in 1998 Jay-z dropped one album that sold as much as both DMX's albums. In 1998 Jay-z had hits.

DMX was big but not bigger than Jay-z in 98. In 98 and 99 perhaps combined.

But from 98 to 2000 Jay-z had more hits and sold as many records, headlined the tours.


But it's been established that Jay-z is not a gimmick rapper, 2 years is not in his plan, to reign every year for 2 decades is more of his thing.

Its somethin these idiots cant grasp even though the proof is right in their faces. Were 6 pages in and not one dmx stan can explain why dmx the "bigger" nicca was the opening act for hov the "lil" nicca or why Jay sold more records.

And yes this thread is about Jay Z because the idiot that titled the thread wanted to talk about some iron fist thing in a year where dmx opened on another niccaz tour and sold less than that same nicca.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Dog just let it go because you're digging your hole even deeper. Someone should just kick away your internet access because you sound stupid as fukk. And while I might add:


After erupting from Brooklyn’s rough-and-tumble Marcy Housing Projects to break through as a recording artist in 1996, Jigga’s initial efforts as a showman were probably better intended than received. “All my early years? Forget it. I was a horrible performer,” Jay said, admitting he learned it the hard way from DMX during a co-headlining tour in 1998. “DMX tore me to pieces. I remember being stunned.”

Through a combination of competitive urgency and the kind of icy professionalism for which he has become known, Jay-Z diagnosed what needed to be done. Namely, highlighting his nimble lyricism by frequently rapping a cappella and executing blustery moves like running through the audience while delivering rhymes that raised the bar on DMX’s macho, shirt-off stage posturing.

Read more: Jay-Z Speaks On DMX Making Him Step His Performance Game Up | RealTalkNY

Maybe your stupidity isnt allowing you to grasp it, I dont know. We are not talking about who the better performer was. We are talking about who the bigger artist is. All the evidence is in Jay Zs corner, all of it. Yes dmxs gimmick was very big, just not as big as hov, thats why it wasnt the Its Dark and Hell Is Hot Tour with Jay Z opening for Earl.

As for ol half a buck, you have a better argument for the gorilla with rabbit teeth than you do for dmx, but again that gimmick can only go so far, and bugs monkey was riding the wave of eminem...

 

[Notorioushnic]

Maybe your stupidity isnt allowing you to grasp it, I dont know. We are not talking about who the better performer was. We are talking about who the bigger artist is. All the evidence is in Jay Zs corner, all of it. Yes dmxs gimmick was very big, just not as big as hov, thats why it wasnt the Its Dark and Hell Is Hot Tour with Jay Z opening for Earl.

As for ol half a buck, you have a better argument for the gorilla with rabbit teeth than you do for dmx, but again that gimmick can only go so far, and bugs monkey was riding the wave of eminem...

Meth and Red were opening that whole tour and Dame said himself that this was a business thing with them CO Head-ling. Not JayZ presents Rocafella and the Ruff Ryders Where you nikkas come up with that bullshyt?


JayZ wasn't bigger than no damn DMX in 1998. That nikka had TWO Number one albums in comparison to his one. DMX impact KILLED Puffy's movement and made nikkas get back street again which allowed the rest of the industry to follow suit including Jay because he was trying to get his mojo back where he felt he lost releasing Volume 1. He incorporated his sound similar to the Ruff Ryders and the south because thats what was popping at the time as well


He did numbers but he didn't leave as much of a impact as DMX that year. Jay wasn't even on Master Ps, Lauryn Hill's or Outkasts in terms of popularity and sales. Nobody even discredited him to bum status, We just saying he didn't run 1998 and thats a fact. fukk up outta my thread with that dumb shyt

 

[Danie84]

This thread just makes me for the dark place X is at now.

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[intilectual recipricol]

You are one dumb ass nicca. Why wasnt the name of the tour the Its Dark and Hell Is Hot Tour? Featuring Rocafella red n meth etc?

 

[Notorioushnic]

Became the 2nd rapper behind Pac to have two #1 albums that same year and changed the game by ushering a movement but according to some nikkas in the Coli. Jay ruled 98