Lebron's opponents in the Finals >>>>>> Jordan's opponents in the Finals

[Jplaya2023]

Why are you posting this old infographic? This information is flawed because it didn't take the lockout into account which is why some of the teams LeBron faced didn't have 50 wins even though they likely would have given their pace...

'16 Golden State Warriors | 73 wins
'16 Toronto Raptors | 56 wins
'15 Atlanta Hawks | 60 wins
'14 Chicago Bulls | 50 wins
'14 Indiana Pacers | 56 wins
'13 San Antonio Spurs | 58 wins, in reality a 60+ win team Pop rests guys
'12 Oklahoma City Thunder | 47 wins, in lockout shortened season
'12 Boston Celtics | 40 wins, in lockout shortened season
'12 Indiana Pacers | 42 wins, in lockout shortened season
'11 Chicago Bulls | 62 wins
'11 Bostons Celtics | 56 wins
'07 Detroit Pistons 53 wins

By the time LeBron retires he'll probably have beaten 15-18 50+ win teams. Also, LeBron is the only one to have beaten a 70 win team out the names on that list.

that's cute, I'll just list 50 win teams from Jordans last 3 peat

1996 - Orlando 60-22, Seattle 64-18
1997 - Atlanta 56-26, Miami 61-21, Utah 64-18
1998 - Charlotte 51-31, Pacers 58-24, Utah 62-20

So in conclusion Jordan and his bulls beat 8 50+ win teams in a span of 3 seasons while Lebron on MIami and Cleveland combined beat 12 50 win teams in a span of 12 seasons

 

[Jplaya2023]

Are you responding to anyone that's said that?

Plus, those records doesn't change that the quality of the teams in the 90s were subpar. There was a huge drop off in the quality of teams from the 80s to the 90s.

You really think a 50 win team in the 90s equals that of a 50 win team of the 80s?

Those 90s Pacers and Knicks who relied on an OLD Derek Harper and OLD Rolando Blackman weren't even as good as the 80's Mavs with YOUNG Derek Harper and YOUNG Rolando Blackman.

Stop it.

I'm responding to the OP who said the below

Bulls opponents in the Finals

1991 - Lackluster, aging Lakers team. Magic Johnson on his last legs, Kareem retired already, James Worthy and Byron Scott injured for most of the series

1992 - Trailblazers were a good team

1993 - Basically Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, and nobodies

1996 - Sonics were a good team

1997 - Jazz were above average at best, and predictable offense

1998 - Jazz again



Cavaliers opponents in the Finals

2007 - Spurs, all time team

2011 - Mavericks were a good team, Lebron chocked, no excuse there

2012 - Thunder, great young team

2013 - Spurs, all time team

2014 - Spurs again

2015 - Warriors, all time team

2016 - 73-9, all time team, came back from 3-1 to win

He downplayed the teams the bulls faced while propping up the teams lebron faced.

Also what does the 80s have to do with this? How do you quantify saying "well 50 wins in the 90s won't mean much in the 80s" What kind of mental gymnastics is this? You're living in the land of IF. Since you bring up the 80s i think we can agree the western conference of the 80s is by far weaker than the East of the 90s in which people try to give MJ shyt over, but no one brings that up against magic? Why is that? Oh and please spare me the 88 mavs would beat every eastern team in the 90s because of derek harper and rolando blackman were younger rhetoric

 

[Goat poster]

fukk outta here. That celtics team was on its last legs. with none of those guys in their prime. 2011 was the best version of that team that Lebron beat and they were no where near what they were in 2008.

and the east has been way worse in the last 6 years than it ever was in the 90s. ain't no 30 for 30s gonna be made on those paul george/roy hibbert pacers or that one man show Bulls team

Who gives a fukk about a 30 for 30 with Spikes crazy ass?

That 90's knicks squad is overrated for 3 reasons:
1) it was the last time the biggest media market NY had a "Contending" sqaud playing in MSG.

2) nikkas over rate EVERY decent team from the 90's in general due to nostalgia.

3) THEY get proped up cause they played against Jordan even though no one ever belived they were good enough to actually win the series.

Patrick Ewing was thier lone Superstar

 

[ISO]

In 2011, those old Celtics legs were better than ANY legs those 90's struggle ball Knicks and Pacers ever stood on.

Those Celtics actually won a title and made Finals(s) so they have experience and title pedigree. They had three legitimate HoF's in Pierce, Garnett, and Allen. People in here saying they were past their prime but Paul Pierce was averaging 19/5/5, KG was in the DPoY race, and Ray Allen was dropping 17 and shooting 45% from 3. Also, those teams are among the greatest defensive teams in NBA history they ranked top 3 in every defensive category and had a sub-100 defensive rating.

Also, people forget how nasty Rondo was back then and he was a great playoff performer...


The only Knicks team that could possibly take them are the '93 Knicks when they had McDaniel and Blackman to go along with Ewing, Starks, Mason, and Oakley. It would be a defensive slugfest. I'm a Knicks fan but no other Knicks team from the 90's is fukking with the '08-'12 Boston Celtics.

 

[horizon]

The 98 Jazz would beat all of LeBron's opponents except the 2014 Spurs in 6 or less

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The 98 Jazz would beat all of LeBron's opponents except the 2014 Spurs in 6 or less

They had one guy average over 11 points for the entire postseason and they were 17th in defensive rating on the season.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm responding to the OP who said the below



He downplayed the teams the bulls faced while propping up the teams lebron faced.

Also what does the 80s have to do with this? How do you quantify saying "well 50 wins in the 90s won't mean much in the 80s" What kind of mental gymnastics is this? You're living in the land of IF. Since you bring up the 80s i think we can agree the western conference of the 80s is by far weaker than the East of the 90s in which people try to give MJ shyt over, but no one brings that up against magic? Why is that? Oh and please spare me the 88 mavs would beat every eastern team in the 90s because of derek harper and rolando blackman were younger rhetoric

No....they would have beaten every team in the 90s east because they were a better TEAM.


SF Aguirre, Mark
G 2 Alford, Steve
PG 1 Regan, Dan
C 33 Blab, Uwe
G 22 Blackman, Rolando
G/F 4 Dantley, Adrian
G 15 Davis, Brad
C 40 Donaldson, James
G 12 Harper, Derek
G/F 21 Jones, Anthony
F/C 44 Perkins, Sam
F/C 32 Schrempf, Detlef
F/C 42 Tarpley, Roy
G/F 41 Tyler, Terry
C 23 Wennington, Bill
G 20 Wiley, Morlon
F/C 32 Williams, Herb



WORD???

The 90's Knicks are beating this 88' Mavs squad with Perk, Detlef, Donaldson, pre drugs Tarpley, Harper, Aguirre and Dantley?

YOU LIE

 

[GilSho]

The 2007 Spurs were not an all time team

Prime Duncan, Ginobili & Parker.

 

[Goat poster]

The 98 Jazz would beat all of LeBron's opponents except the 2014 Spurs in 6 or less

So they would beat the Warriors who hold two of the best regular seasons ever back to back in 6 or less?

 

[Jplaya2023]

No....they would have beaten every team in the 90s east because they were a better TEAM.


Aguirre, Mark 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 232 lb (105 kg) 1959-12-10 DePaul
G 2 Alford, Steve 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) 183 lb (83 kg) 1964-11-23 Indiana
PG 1 Regan, Dan 5 ft 4 in (1.63 m) 205 lb (93 kg) Minnesota
C 33 Blab, Uwe 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m) 252 lb (114 kg) 1962-03-26 Indiana
G 22 Blackman, Rolando 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 190 lb (86 kg) 1959-02-26 Kansas State
G/F 4 Dantley, Adrian 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) 208 lb (94 kg) 1955-02-28 Notre Dame
G 15 Davis, Brad 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) 180 lb (82 kg) 1955-12-17 Maryland
C 40 Donaldson, James 7 ft 2 in (2.18 m) 275 lb (125 kg) 1957-08-16 Washington State
G 12 Harper, Derek 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 185 lb (84 kg) 1961-10-13 Illinois
G/F 21 Jones, Anthony 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 195 lb (88 kg) 1962-09-13 UNLV
F/C 44 Perkins, Sam 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m) 239 lb (108 kg) 1961-06-14 North Carolina
F/C 32 Schrempf, Detlef 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m) 214 lb (97 kg) 1963-01-21 Washington
F/C 42 Tarpley, Roy 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 230 lb (104 kg) 1964-11-28 Michigan
G/F 41 Tyler, Terry 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 215 lb (98 kg) 1956-10-30 Detroit
C 23 Wennington, Bill 7 ft 0 in (2.13 m) 245 lb (111 kg) 1963-12-26 St. John's
G 20 Wiley, Morlon 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 185 lb (84 kg) 1966-09-24 Long Beach State
F/C 32 Williams, Herb


The 90s Knicks are beating that squad????

that team was good for 2 years and were mediocre to average the rest of the decade. The knicks were consistent winners in the 90s after the 91 season. The mavs were a flash in the pan.

to answer your question, who knows honestly. I mean they did lose to a 38 win knick team starting sydney green and kenny "sky walker". The knicks were more consistent in their era than the flash in the pan mavs

 

[Jplaya2023]

Prime Duncan, Ginobili & Parker.

they should've lost to phoenix, but you know suspensions word to profasi

 

[NYC Rebel]

that team was good for 2 years and were mediocre to average the rest of the decade.

Being good for 2 years in the 1980s would mean you would have been good for 5 or 6 in the 90s.

The knicks were consistent winners in the 90s after the 91 season.

And would have been losers in the 80s that the Mavs played in.

The mavs were a flash in the pan.

Because the PLAYED IN THE 80s idiot!! The Jazz and the Mavs were damn near shoulder to shoulder in the 80s. Only one of those two teams stayed together in the 90s and played the Bulls twice in the finals....but couldn't do shyt in the 80s. Who would that be?


You're daft as fukk.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

They had one guy average over 11 points for the entire postseason and they were 17th in defensive rating on the season.

too bad lebron couldn't average 18ppg against the mavericks

 

[Jplaya2023]

Being good for 2 years in the 1980s would mean you would have been good for 5 or 6 in the 90s.


And would have been losers in the 80s.

Because the PLAYED IN THE 80s idiot!! The Jazz and the Mavs were damn near shoulder to shoulder in the 80s. Guess who stayed together in the 90s and played the Bulls twice in the finals?


You're daft as fukk.

dawg look at what you typing "2 good years in the 80s equates to 5-6 in the 90s" how sway? what mental gymnastics game is this? i don't want to play anymore.

they played in an inferior conference in the 80s (we both agree) and were mediocre, you act as if they played the lakers 30 times a season, they played those other mediocre west teams 5-6 times a season back then. Stop with the bullshyt, the west was weaker in the 80s then the east was in the 90s. No amount of pandering is changing that

 

[NYC Rebel]

dawg look at what you typing "2 good years in the 80s equates to 5-6 in the 90s"

how sway? what mental gymnastics game is this? i don't want to play anymore.

Let me repeat what was said after that:

"The Jazz and the Mavs were damn near shoulder to shoulder in the 80s. Guess who stayed together in the 90s and played the Bulls twice in the finals?"

If the 80s Mavs stayed together as long as the 80s Jazz team did, what makes you think they wouldn't have had success in the 90s like the Jazz did?

Look at the Mavs players went on to help OTHER teams go to championships after being split up.

Please answer that.

I'm not the idiot blaming the Mavs team for their GM splitting them up. They were a flash in the pan because of what their GM did, not by playing together and falling off.

Why are you allergic to context?