Lebron's opponents in the Finals >>>>>> Jordan's opponents in the Finals

[NYC Rebel]

fukk outta here. That celtics team was on its last legs. with none of those guys in their prime. 2011 was the best version of that team that Lebron beat and they were no where near what they were in 2008.

In 2011, those old Celtics legs were better than ANY legs those 90's struggle ball Knicks and Pacers ever stood on.

 

[duckbutta]

NO ONE ON THAT TEAM AVERAGED 17 PTS.

JUST A BUNCH OF OLD nikkaS MOVING THE BALL.

WENT TO 7 GAMES WITH THE OVER WASHED MAVS.

THEY HAD THE HEATS NUMBER
AND WERE LOOKING FOR PAYBACK.

THEY DONT BEAT A HEALTHY THUNDER TEAM
IN EITHER OF THOSE SEASONS.



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One of the highest scoring teams ever but "no one averaged more than 17 points"

I can't with you nikkas man

They had the heats number...like they had portland number...and okc number...

Don't beat a healthy thunder team...could have sworn Ibaka played in 4 of those 6 games and looked just fine...

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

Why are you posting this old infographic? This information is flawed because it didn't take the lockout into account which is why some of the teams LeBron faced didn't have 50 wins...
'16 Golden State Warriors | 73 wins
'16 Toronto Raptors | 56 wins
'15 Atlanta Hawks | 60 wins
'14 Chicago Bulls | 50 wins
'14 Indiana Pacers | 56 wins
'13 San Antonio Spurs | 58 wins
'12 Oklahoma City Thunder | 47 wins in lockout shortened season
'12 Boston Celtics | 40 wins in lockout shortened season
'12 Indiana Pacers | 42 wins in lockout shortened
'11 Chicago Bulls | 62 wins
'11 Bostons Celtics | 56 wins
'07 Detroit Pistons 53 wins

By the time LeBron retires he'll probably have beaten 15-18 50+ win teams...

LeBron also benefited from playing in an awful conference and a watered down league for the past 10+ years.

lets look at his finals

2007- Got SWEPT (why we givin him credit for losing?)
2011- Worst Finals Performance in History
2012- a young OKC team.
2013- needed Ray Allen to bail him out, or thats another L
2014- got ran the fukk out the building, and most lop-sided finals in NBA History
2015- shot 33% from the Field, and lost
2016- needed Kyrie to take over games, while Green suspended, Bogut/Iggy hurt and Steph at 75%

not really impressive honestly.

 

[malbaker86]

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[KingJudah2]

MJ's path to the finals > Lebron's entire playoff run. MJ had much harder east teams to beat

 

[Alexander The Great]

In 2011, those old Celtics legs were better than ANY legs those 90's struggle ball Knicks and Pacers ever stood on.

nope. not better than the 93 Knicks or 98 Pacers

take ya Jordan hating agenda elsewhere homie

 

[NYC Rebel]

MJ's path to the finals > Lebron's entire playoff run. MJ had much harder east teams to beat

No they weren't.

"We played the Jordan's Bulls hard" does NOT equal "We were better than the teams Lebron faced"

 

[NYC Rebel]

nope. not better than the 93 Knicks or 98 Pacers

the 93 Knicks and 98 Pacers were better than the 2011 Celtics?

take ya Jordan hating agenda elsewhere homie

What I said earlier:

Jordan and the Bulls who were "great".

Where's the "hating"?

 

[Gangstar8]

LeBron stans ain't got past Kobe they targeting Jordan now

 

[NYC Rebel]

LeBron stans ain't got past Kobe they targeting Jordan now

Here is the "let's delve into the mentality of those who don't agree with me" lableing portion of this thread.

 

[ISO]

LeBron also benefited from playing in an awful conference and a watered down league for the past 10+ years.

lets look at his finals

2007- Got SWEPT (why we givin him credit for losing?)
2011- Worst Finals Performance in History
2012- a young OKC team.
2013- needed Ray Allen to bail him out, or thats another L
2014- got ran the fukk out the building, and most lop-sided finals in NBA History
2015- shot 33% from the Field, and lost
2016- needed Kyrie to take over games, while Green suspended, Bogut/Iggy hurt and Steph at 75%

not really impressive honestly.

Call the modern NBA watered down but stan the 90's and early 00's brehs

2007-How is he getting credit for losing? He gets credits for a legendary performance against the Pistons, a team that reached 5 straight Eastern Conference Finals in the era. He gets credit for getting that awful Cavaliers team to the Finals and keeping some games close in one of the worst, lowest rated, most lopsided Finals ever. Larry Hughes was injured in those Finals and rookie Boobie Gibson took Eric Snow's starting job. Nobody was beating the Spurs with that cast
2011-a low moment in his career, but not the lone choke in NBA history
2012-a team on pace to win 58 games with three future HoF's at the beginning of their primes
2013-Ray Allen made a clutch shot but who took over the 4th and OT, who dropped 37 in game seven?
2014-got beat by a better team, a team that set playoff records
2015-took the Cavs to 6 without Kevin Love or Kyrie Irving against a 67 win team, averaged 36/15/9 and shot 40% only 1% shy of Kobe Bryant's career 41% Finals FG%
2016-LeBron took over games with Kyrie and led the Finals in ever stat, the rest of that assessment is B.S. nikkas lost period on their floor

 

[Jplaya2023]

Average record of teams the bulls faced in the finals with Jordan - 61-21 (roughly)

Average record of teams the cavs/heat faced in the finals with Lebron - 61-21 (roughly) Note: I scaled the 2012 thunder to a 58 win team based on their winning % that season

So the idea that jordan faced weak western teams while lebron faced juggernauts is well fabricated in coli lure

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Lebron stans are the most delusional idiots on this board, hands down.



Also thanks for trying to boost Lebron over Jordan because he "played against an all-time Spurs team"

YA KNOW, THE same all-time Spurs team Kobe and the Lakers had to go through at times to get to the finals.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Average record of teams the bulls faced in the finals with Jordan - 61-21 (roughly)

Average record of teams the cavs/heat faced in the finals with Lebron - 61-21 (roughly) Note: I scaled the 2012 thunder to a 58 win team based on their winning % that season

So the idea that jordan faced weak western teams while lebron faced juggernauts is well fabricated in coli lure

If you do this for the entire playoffs you can really see Jordan played better teams than Lebron. I posted it here somewhere

 

[NYC Rebel]

Average record of teams the bulls faced in the finals with Jordan - 61-21 (roughly)

Average record of teams the cavs/heat faced in the finals with Lebron - 61-21 (roughly) Note: I scaled the 2012 thunder to a 58 win team based on their winning % that season

So the idea that jordan faced weak western teams while lebron faced juggernauts is well fabricated in coli lure

Are you responding to anyone that's said that?

Plus, those records doesn't change that the quality of the teams in the 90s were subpar. There was a huge drop off in the quality of teams from the 80s to the 90s.

You really think a 50 win team in the 90s equals that of a 50 win team of the 80s?

Those 90s Pacers and Knicks who relied on an OLD Derek Harper and OLD Rolando Blackman weren't even as good as the 80's Mavs with YOUNG Derek Harper and YOUNG Rolando Blackman.

Stop it.