Lebron's opponents in the Finals >>>>>> Jordan's opponents in the Finals

[Taadow]

I think that, in order to make this argument, you should refrain from interjecting personal opinion into the mix, cause it only works to undermine your position.

That team was hardly "a bunch of nobodies".....they won 62 games, Dan Majerle was an All-Star that year, Kevin Johnson missed 49 GAMES that season and they still took the Bulls to 6 games.

Richard Dumas, Cedric Ceballos, Danny Ainge, Tom Chambers.....that's not a world-beater roster, but in 1993 that was a FORMIDABLE roster. The fact that KJ didn't play and Majerle was REALLY the second star is a testament that you probably don't know much about that team other than what you've read in press clippings.

No offense, OP....I just don't like these attempts at narrative shifts.

Thanks.

That Suns team had 5 All-Stars on it.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Every team the bulls faced in the finals were the #1 seed in the west with the exception of the lakers in 91. Lebron lost to the 3rd seeded mavs in 2011

 

[Jplaya2023]

No one wants to hear it.

The fact they faced a Jazz team that couldn't make it to the finals in the 80s but needed the league to become watered down to make it twice in the 90s shows just how overrated those 90s Finals teams were.

Is it surprising that duos (Stockton:Malone/Pippen:Jordan) that played together the longest, relying on each other and avoiding being dismantled like other NBA teams did during that era, are the only teams that made it to the Finals more than once outside of the Rockets?

lol the jazz not making the finals in the 80s is a function of the lakers by far being the best team in the west more so than utah "failing". I hate when you bring that up forgetting the lakers were vastly superior to every west team in the 80s

 

[CHICAGO]

The Spurs team that beat them has one of if not the highest sustained points per 100 possession of any team in the history of basketball from game 7 of the mavs all the way until they beat the heat...

NO ONE ON THAT TEAM AVERAGED 17 PTS.

JUST A BUNCH OF OLD nikkaS MOVING THE BALL.

WENT TO 7 GAMES WITH THE OVER WASHED MAVS.

THEY HAD THE HEATS NUMBER
AND WERE LOOKING FOR PAYBACK.

THEY DONT BEAT A HEALTHY THUNDER TEAM
IN EITHER OF THOSE SEASONS.



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[Tanahashi Coates]

1993 - Basically Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, and nobodies

They had Majerle, Chambers, Ainge, Ceballos, and cokehead Richard Dumas averaging double figures

 

[holidayinn21]

Just a horribly executed thread.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Thanks.

That Suns team had 5 All-Stars on it.

They also had the worst defense in NBA history at the time.

fukk the all star angle...they shat the bed collectively as a team being one sided

 

[NYC Rebel]

They had Majerle, Chambers, Ainge, Ceballos, and cokehead Richard Dumas averaging double figures

Yeah....under a gimmick Paul Westphal offense.

He's Mike D'Antoni, who we bash, with a Finals appearance under his belt.

D'Antoni's teams couldn't get past the Spurs. I doubt those suns team would either.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Is that why he lost more than he won in the finals? Jordan played great teams, they just couldn't beat him. Lebron played great teams, he beat em sometimes. The Warriors was his greatest achievement, but that said more about the Warriors than it does lebron honestly. Unanimous MVP, 73-9, Bench scoring 40 in game one, up 3-1.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Is that why he lost more than he won in the finals? Jordan played great teams, they just couldn't beat him. Lebron played great teams, he beat em sometimes. The Warriors was his greatest achievement, but that said more about the Warriors than it does lebron honestly. Unanimous MVP, 73-9, Bench scoring 40 in game one, up 3-1.

Those 90s teams weren't "great."

Because they were actors who shared the stage alongside Jordan and the Bulls who were "great", people mislabel the teams they faced as great. Those were "good" teams at best in the 90s. "Great" teams died in the 80s.

 

[Harry Sax]

Well shyt at least he played somebody in the finals...nikka always had a cakewalk to get there and still fukked that up several times

Meanwhile Jordan faces the east at its height

 

[Tanahashi Coates]

Yeah....under a gimmick Paul Westphal offense.

He's Mike D'Antoni, who we bash, with a Finals appearance under his belt.

D'Antoni's teams couldn't get past the Spurs. I doubt those suns team would either.

If that series came back to Chicago for a game 7, I think Phoenix would've won.

Let's not act like Phoenix having players suspended didn't help San Antonio

 

[NYC Rebel]

Well shyt at least he played somebody in the finals...nikka always had a cakewalk to get there and still fukked that up several times

Meanwhile Jordan faces the east at its height

Those Eastern teams were wack. I'm sick of the 90s struggle ball Knicks and Pacers being celebrated as great squads

 

[NYC Rebel]

If that series came back to Chicago for a game 7, I think Phoenix would've won.

Let's not act like Phoenix having players suspended didn't help San Antonio

How the series played out doesn't change shyt about my point.

Exactly what are you deconstructing that I've said?

Did Westphal run a gimmick scheme?

Yes. Do you disagree?

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]