"LeBron James has ruined the NBA. He is the anti-jordan" - RobParker

[John Hull]

nikkas in LeBron threads are retarded as hell..

I don't like a lot money.. Who wants a lot of money

It offends you to see a professional athlete dominate other professional athletes

fukk outta here with this

It doesn't offend me. I already gave Bron his props which you conveniently didn't bother quoting.

I just don't think he's that nice, I play basketball, and am a fan of hoops perhaps football is more your speed.

 

[No1]

Not really...the more cities Bron goes too, the more have a chance a championships. Unless you are talking about the 60s

Did you just say if LeBron went to any 500 team they'd win rings? LeBron stans are nuts. You're being disingenuous because the 80s and 90s and 2000s had competitive and classic series of every playoffs. LeBron is on squads blowing everyone out but perhaps one team in their conference every year. The Pistons, Celtics, and Lakers all had classic series within their own conferences prior to their classic finals. The Bulls had classics with the Knicks and Pacers and went 7 with Detroit before the year they finally won. The 3 peat Lakers went to 7 with the kings and blazers. And even when the Lakers swept through the West, the east was highly competitive. The Spurs never won back to back and had tough series with the Mavs, Lakers, Thunder, Suns, etc. The Lakers that won back to back with Kobe and Gasol even went to 7 with the Rockets and 6 with the Nuggets. And they were pushed by the Thunder, Suns, etc. in 2010. So no, despite all the talent the Celtics and Lakers had when LeBron went to MIA, they were past their prime and not close to invincible as evidenced by how the Lakers went out the next year and how easily the Heat beat Boston. You cannot rewrite history. What LeBron did was unprecedented. And KD followed suit. The only reason people forgot was because Dallas beat Miami and made them look human. If Miami goes 4 for 4 like they should have, people look at LeBron as a frontrunner. Losing enhanced his legacy somehow.

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Called him the "anti-jordan"

Said Durant would still be in OKC if LeBron didn't team with wade and bosh




Seems a bit over the top considering there's only been a few times recently where we had more than 5 legit contenders

Cooooommmmeeee Onnnnn......

 

[THE MACHINE]

Did you just say if LeBron went to any 500 team they'd win rings? LeBron stans are nuts. You're being disingenuous because the 80s and 90s and 2009s had competitive and classic series of every playoffs. LeBron is on squads blowing everyone out but perhaps one team in their conference every year. The Pistons, Celtics, and Lakers all had classic series within their own conferences prior to their classic finals. The Bulls had classics with the Knicks and Pacers and went 7 with Detroit before the year they finally won. The 3 peat Lakers went to 7 with the kings and blazers. And even when the Lakers swept through the West, the east was highly competitive. The Spurs never won back to back and tough series with the Mavs, Lakers, Thunder, Suns, etc. The Lakers that won back to back with Kobe and Gasol even went to 7 with the Rockets and 6 with the Nuggets. And they were pushed by the Thunder, Suns, etc. in 2010. So no, despite all the talent the Celtics and Lakers had when LeBron went to MIA, they were past their prime and not close to invincible as evidenced by how the Lakers went out the next year and how easily the Heat beat Boston. You cannot rewrite history. What LeBron did was unprecedented. And KD followed suit. The only reason people forgot was because Dallas beat Miami and made them look human. If Miami goes 4 for 4 like they should have, people look at LeBron as a frontrunner. Losing enhanced his legacy somehow.

The last sentence is the truth. He lost because it was more competitive than you want to believe.
Jordan had 0 finals game 7s. Never faced elimination in the Finals. 6-0.
Bron has been beat in the Finals 4 times
2 of his 3 wins went to game 7s.
He had multiple game 7s in the east in his Miami run.
His teams have only won the 1 seed in the East twice in the last 7 years.

And yes, adding 2010-2014 LeBron to any .500+ team during those 4 years wins rings in my opinion.

 

[BlackAchilles]

Rob caught a raw deal, cause at the end of the day RG3 was a cornball brother, whatever that phrase means But the point is, he was corny as hell, and Rob caught the L for speaking the real and saying what real nikkas might have been thinking about buddy. He didn't even call him one directly, he was just on some, people think he may be a cornball brother

People wanted to be outraged so bad. Even black dudes was on some, how Rob Parker lame a** got the never to call somebody a cornball brother? But do it matter how lame he comes off? Was he not on point?

Going on a white owned show and and having this type of dialogue about a rookie black QB is a bigger cornball move than anything said player could do

 

[Trapperman Dave]

The biggest difference between lebron and kd was, lebron left cleveland to form a team to beat boston while KD left to join golden state instead of trying to beat them.

if lebron is a beta KD is a delta male

The overall context as well. Cavs weren't getting him any real help at that time. OKC at least tried to surround KD and Westbrook but at the end of day I think just playing with westbrook finally convinced him to leave.

 

[Fresh]

Why does Miami always catch the blame for the superteams? Did Boston not have KG, PP and Ray?

they were all older...but yeah

good point

 

[Yehuda]

Let's be real both Lebron and KD left their original team to have a better chance winning a ring



Both dudes had the same goal

/thread

 

[IWunD3r]

Rob caught a raw deal, cause at the end of the day RG3 was a cornball brother, whatever that phrase means But the point is, he was corny as hell, and Rob caught the L for speaking the real and saying what real nikkas might have been thinking about buddy. He didn't even call him one directly, he was just on some, people think he may be a cornball brother

People wanted to be outraged so bad. Even black dudes was on some, how Rob Parker lame a** got the never to call somebody a cornball brother? But do it matter how lame he comes off? Was he not on point?

what does being a cornball brotha got to do with sports???
kobe and jordan are cornballs, but they both are all time greats... him talking about who rg3 is married to, rg3's political affliation ain't got shyt to do with sports.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Always funny to see LeBron defenders try to defend his complete destruction of parity and competitiveness. LBJ knew exactly what he was doing. That's why he said "Not 1, Not 2, Not 3..."

And that's precisely why as soon as LBJ went to Miami, only his teams have made it out of the east. And, to be honest, this is going to continue for the next 4 or 5 years. People who talk about how bad LBJ's Cleveland teams were fail to realize that is the predicament that most teams in the east are in. LBJ, could have easily waited in Cleveland, gotten a star to come and then win some Championships. I would have had more respect for him if he did that. LBJ, has absolutely no desire to play in a competitive league. That's why after he left Miami, he orchestrated the trade for Kevin Love. LBJ is a great player, probably top 3 of all time, but he destroyed basketball in the Eastern Conference.

Nobody really wanted to go to Cleveland then. He took his own destiny into his hands. Now him going back he went against his word saying he wasn't rushing to win a championship

 

[King P]

I couldn't care less about these "super teams", but I can understand the gripes and why LeBron is blamed.

People talk about how there's always been super teams, but the super teams of old are different from the Super teams of new.

People bring up the Celtics, but really Boston was the last example of the old super teams. They were a cohesive unit, where everybody had to a different role to play, and all played their roles very well. They didn't have the redundancy so to speak that the new teams have.

The difference between the old super teams and the new ones is that the new super teams are less about building a cohesive unit and more about simply monopolizing talent. Which had led to a league that's more watered down than it's ever been.

And that all started with The Big 3 in Miami, lee by LeBron

 

[Premeditated]

Wrong.

The biggest difference is what they left behind.
If Lebron has his own top 5 teammate there's ZERO chance he leaves. Cleveland failed to get Lebron a running mate. If Lebron has Westbrook he don't leave.

Lebron didn't go to the team he couldn't beat
Lebron didn't go to the team he just blew a 3-1 lead to
Lebron didn't go to a team with a 2 time MVP
Lebron didn't go to a team with the best regular season Record of all time.

It ain't the same. Stop.

Lebron and Westbrook could never work on the same team.
Two completely inept players off the ball. Two players stat padding

 

[Long Live The Mamba]

Summary of this thread

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Real question I'm wondering is that if Jordan was the ultimate winner, would he have left if he didn't have any help and the Bulls front office was trash? Because winning is more important to some people than loyalty to a franchise.

He said he was counting down to his free agency in 1996 like a prisoner waiting to get out.

 

[Grifter]

I thought Durant would still be there if they hadn't blown a 3-1 lead.