LeBron is officially cooked. Come pay your respects

[CantStop]

That's supposed to "hurt" us? Y'all were the title favorites that year.

And you qualified for the playoffs by winning your last two games (and the clutch time of the previous one) with Kobe not even on the court.






So AD missing most of the season and Bron out for 20 games is all LBJ's fault, but when Kobe chases a 38yo point guard he gets a pass?

First you claimed Kobe played inspiring defense in 2013, which was a lie.

Then you claimed Kobe didn't handpick the team, which was a lie.

Then you suggested Kobe was "optimizing" his teammates better than Bron, which was a lie.

Now you wanna bytch about injuries when every player in that starting core put in more games than AD and Nunn have combined this season?


75+ games of MVP-candidate Kobe, MVP-candidate Dwight, and 33yo Artest giving 13ppg with good defense.
50 games of All-NBA level Pau and even post-injury Nash still gave them 13 and 7 on great shooting.

You're bragging about a 7th seed with that squad?

all NBA level Pau that's how I know you're a casual. D'Antoni neutralized Pau and was the reason why Pau wanted out until D'Antoni got fired. This man said Artest. all you're doing is reading basketball reference and passing it off as knowledge.

You mentionning steve nash's numbers like a casual is hilarious because Malik Monk's numbers are better

Artest's defense was fukking trash. ask any Laker fan in the thread. Artest's defense as a Laker was only great the year he came in 2010 and then he massively fell off but like I said, you're a casual and a Lebron stan so it equates to the same thing.

Kobe optimized that roster better than LeBron optimized this roster and only one of them was hand picked.

Russ averaged 22/11/11 last year yet he's been minimized to being Ramon Sessions

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You're telling me there's nobody on the team at the level of Steve Blake?

Not sure why you just drew attention to the fact that the Lakers's 6th-best player averaged 20ppg after Kobe went out.

You look like a clown when you omit that Dwight was an All-NBA player that year.
You look like a clown when you omit that Pau was still capable of playing at an All-NBA level.
You look like a clown when you omit that Nash was still twice the player that Westbrook is.
You look like a clown when you omit that Artest was a better two-way player than anyone healthy in Bron's cast.

Kobe had a squad that year. He recruited that team. The Lakers disappointed terribly. Kobe didn't do jack shyt on defense that season. And Laker fans want to keep pretending it was a GOAT effort from Kobe and one of his most impressive seasons while trying to claim a much older Bron doing even more is somehow disappointing.

 

[Tookalossfellbackcameback]

I'm trying to figure out how Bron is playing at an "unprecedented level" at his age when he's essentially cheating the game by giving ZERO effort defensively...


Literally ALL of his energy and effort is focused on one side of the ball and he's one of the WOAT on the defensive end at this stage.


Shyt is disgusting.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I'm trying to figure out how Bron is playing at an "unprecedented level" at his age when he's essentially cheating the game by giving ZERO effort defensively...


Literally ALL of his energy and effort is focused on one side of the ball and he's one of the WOAT on the defensive end at this stage.


Shyt is disgusting.

Let it ride man….let it ride

 

[CantStop]

I'm trying to figure out how Bron is playing at an "unprecedented level" at his age when he's essentially cheating the game by giving ZERO effort defensively...


Literally ALL of his energy and effort is focused on one side of the ball and he's one of the WOAT on the defensive end at this stage.


Shyt is disgusting.

He's averaging 1 block per game so actually he's playing great defense according to @Rhakim and @Joe Sixpack

forget the fact that he makes his assignment look like game 6 klay every game, that 1 chasedown block saves the team 15 points tbh

 

[Professor Emeritus]

all NBA level Pau that's how I know you're a casual. D'Antoni neutralized Pau and was the reason why Pau wanted out until D'Antoni got fired. This man said Artest. all you're doing is reading basketball reference and passing it off as knowledge.

Everyone gets the blame except Kobe. Every time.

You're talking like the Lakers have had a stellar coaching performance this season.

You mentionning steve nash's numbers like a casual is hilarious because Malik Monk's numbers are better

On what planet?

Nash in 2013: 13ppg and 7apg on 50% fg, 44% 3pt
Monk in 2022: 13ppg and 2apg on 47% fg, 40% 3pt

Nash is well ahead of Monk on literally every single advanced stat too.


You just drew attention to the fact that Bron's #2 guy right now ain't even at the level of Kobe's #4 guy in 2013. Y'all are terrible at this.

 

[Easy-E]

Averaging 30 ppg

Top 5 in PER, leading the NBA in scoring
= "officially cooked"

This is what happens when youre so used to a guy dragging teams to 50+ wins ever since Larry Hughes was still a thing.

No other athlete in league history has been held to such a standard especially at 37. His biggest haters are his biggest stans nd they don't even realize

Lmao this LeGM shyt is hilarious. But yall don't really know who makes the final decisions but use that in arguments. They might ask him for his input in players but I don't think he's running shyt how yall think. Especially not how he was in Cleveland

Lebron stans....I feel for ya'll...

 

[CantStop]

Everyone gets the blame except Kobe. Every time.

You're talking like the Lakers have had a stellar coaching performance this season.






On what planet?

Nash in 2013: 13ppg and 7apg on 50% fg, 44% 3pt
Monk in 2022: 13ppg and 2apg on 47% fg, 40% 3pt

Nash is well ahead of Monk on literally every single advanced stat too.


You just drew attention to the fact that Bron's #2 guy right now ain't even at the level of Kobe's #4 guy in 2013. Y'all are terrible at this.

Bron's #2 guy is Russell Westbrook. The same guy who averaged 22/11/11 last year. The same guy who's been all NBA, MVP winner and candidate for years and somehow has become a liability once he joins LeBron. Go figure. Name a superstar player who's numbers have actually increased with Bron. Chris Bosh's numbers fell off, Wade's numbers fell off, Russ' numbers fell off, AD's numbers fell off. There's a big reason for that and somehow y'all are the only ones who don't want to acknowledge it. This is too easy.

Lebron is the only player who can make legitimate superstars look worse while Kobe makes guys like Pau have HOF careers.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He's averaging 1 block per game so actually he's playing great defense according to @Rhakim and @Joe Sixpack

Didn't say Bron was playing great defense, just said that he is giving effort. LeBron is leading the team in steals, is leading the team in blocks outside of ADNP, and is #7 in the entire league in taking charges, that's simply not possible if he's giving "zero effort". This isn't 2013 Kobe's matador defense we're talking about here.

I'm trying to figure out how Bron is playing at an "unprecedented level" at his age when he's essentially cheating the game by giving ZERO effort defensively...

Still trying to figure out how you get to #7 in the NBA in charges taken, #1 on the team in steals, and #2 on the team in blocked shots if you're giving "ZERO" effort defensively. Not saying those prove great defense, but they certainly prove effort. You could bet maybe a steal a game by gambling occasionally but you can't get all that without trying more than a lot of guys are.

Every aging player has to conserve energy to play at this level. 2013 Kobe was 3 years younger than Bron, healthier than Bron, and had better teammates than Bron....yet was playing a lot less defense that year than Bron was this year. And in retrospect it's treated like some incredible effort to "carry" the team on one end of the court - even though at the time Kobe's complete lack of defense was visible to everyone.

Is Bron's season unprecedented at this age or not?

 

[UNATTACHED]

Lebron stans....I feel for ya'll...

Idk about the other person you quoted but I'm far from a "Stan"

The thread is about lebron being cooked. It's crazy that somebody averaging damn near 30 and dropped 50 literally 3 days ago is considered "cooked"

 

[CantStop]

Didn't say Bron was playing great defense, just said that he is giving effort. LeBron is leading the team in steals, is leading the team in blocks outside of ADNP, and is #7 in the entire league in taking charges, that's simply not possible if he's giving "zero effort". This isn't 2013 Kobe's matador defense we're talking about here.





Still trying to figure out how you get to #7 in the NBA in charges taken, #1 on the team in steals, and #2 on the team in blocked shots if you're giving "ZERO" effort defensively. Not saying those prove great defense, but they certainly prove effort. You could bet maybe a steal a game by gambling occasionally but you can't get all that without trying more than a lot of guys are.

Every aging player has to conserve energy to play at this level. 2013 Kobe was 3 years younger than Bron, healthier than Bron, and had better teammates than Bron....yet was playing a lot less defense that year than Bron was this year. And in retrospect it's treated like some incredible effort to "carry" the team on one end of the court - even though at the time Kobe's complete lack of defense was visible to everyone.

Is Bron's season unprecedented at this age or not?

You keep exposing yourself as a casual.

that same line of thought is along the lines of saying Drummond is a good defender because he averages x amount of blocks. Kemba Walker has 2 less charges drawn than Bron in 12 less games. Kemba might as well be prime Gary Payton using your logic.

just stop while you're ahead please. You're throwing shyt at the wall hoping one of your arguments stick.

Go ask any Laker fan right now if Bron plays defense. Actually, just go ask an NBA fan. Funny how Bron fans are the only one saying he's giving effort.

 

[Trojan 24]

No one is having a meltdown, we're laughing at you.

Bron at 37 is playing at an unprecedented level for a player his age. Rest of the league gonna recognize that with his 18th consecutive All-NBA selection while you haters do nothing but whine. His teammates are ass yet he'll still win at lot more games than the Lakers did in 2014, 2015, 2016, or 2017, so how is this a "WOAT" season?

You right, I ain't ever seen a team give up 48 in quarter

 

[Marc Spector]

Even him saying Kobe wasn't at his best is more on point than dudes saying Lebron leading his team to 9th is equally as disappointing as the 2004 Lakers losing in the Finals or the 2013 Lakers being 7th seed.

The point is that you nikkas have had the chopper loaded for nearly 10 fukking years to unload on Lebron and prior to the past 2 years his biggest mistake was not winning a finals in 2011.


Meanwhile:

Kobe lost a finals with a super team and a sizeable amount of blame is due to him and shaqs fukkery along with the Nash/Dwight floundering in near identical fashion to this years lakers....

And you nikkas are quiet as church mice about it. But shouting from the rooftops about Lebron being washed

 

[Trojan 24]

The point is that you nikkas have had the chopper loaded for nearly 10 fukking years to unload on Lebron and prior to the past 2 years his biggest mistake was not winning a finals in 2011.


Meanwhile:

Kobe lost a finals with a super team and a sizeable amount of blame is due to him and shaqs fukkery along with the Nash/Dwight floundering in near identical fashion to this years lakers....

And you nikkas are quiet as church mice about it. But shouting from the rooftops about Lebron being washed

Bron should have stayed in Cleveland if he wanted the same, being a ring chasing thot for the bulk of your career doesn't buy loyalty

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Bron should have stayed in Cleveland if he wanted the same, being a ring chasing thot for the bulk of your career doesn't buy loyalty

Ring chasing thot that led EVERY SINGLE TEAM he played on to chips as the best player


I hate the Coli