Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[storyteller]

This is why I think a lot of the offense woes is on the coaching, too many times I see Trey, Tim and Kanter doing what they want or being the main scorers and passing to one another. Pay attention, it’s not only Frank who passes the half court and passes to one of the 3.

Dude said Wario
We gonna see a lot of that M flipping to the W this season

My hope is that he's taking it easy because of the inexperience of other cats. If we're watching Tim and Trey freelance in December, I'll be really frustrated. In my mind our identity should be defense first and with Frank/Dotson/Lance/Vonleh/Mitch....we should be able to pump out line-ups that put pressure on offenses even if our own offense is hit or miss. I'm just not sure we can build that identity while Tim and Kanter get bulk minutes though, at least not together and definitely not with Burke as well.

 

[ISO]

numbers declined with each month.

This is misleading. He shot over 50% for a three month stretch. In the month with the most volume he shot 50% on 189 shot attempts. April was a weak month shooting 43% but it was only 4 games and it was a 3 of 13 night against Milwaukee that threw his %'s off.

He was dominant last season offensively.

 

[Wargames]

Relax brehs. We got our pick



We gonna be adding a lot of talent to the roster next year.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

When is Knox coming back?

 

[storyteller]

Not comparing them. They're supposed to coexist but Frank does nothing offensively. Frank is supposed to be able to hide Trey on defense and allow him to play the lanes which he is low key good at. Frank is supposed to be a secondary ball handler, he should be pushing the ball in transition off every rebound and turnover, he should be filling lanes and the wing with a purpose if he's not handling the ball in these situations, he should be excelling in the C&S and he's supposed to be taking and making shots under screens and open midrange dribble pull ups, he should be running off screens with a purpose.

He is averaging 6.5 points on 36% shooting from the field, 35% (average to slightly below average) from 3 on mostly open looks, and has gotten to the line once in 5 games and he's averaging 29.8 minutes per game and starting. The team is significantly better statistically offensively when he off the floor. This is atrocious. No excuses.

He kinda isn't though. So far THJ has been the secondary ball handler and Frank/Lance have been decoy status in the corners for most of that unit's time out there. They've had 22 catch and shoot opportunities combined over five games. Hezonja and Dotson have 30 combined even though Dot's only played in 3 games, add the 3 with Knox in Dotson's spot and that total is 36. It could be argued that they're just not taking the shots when they have them I suppose, but I'd look at the personnel on the floor for why wings get more catch and shoot opportunities in the second unit.

 

[storyteller]

This is misleading. He shot over 50% for a three month stretch. In the month with the most volume he shot 50% on 189 shot attempts. April was a weak month shooting 43% but it was only 4 games and it was a 3 of 13 night against Milwaukee that threw his %'s off.

He was dominant last season offensively.

56% down to 52% down to 50% down to 43% and so far he's at 39% this month. Don't baby him.

 

[ISO]

He kinda isn't though. So far THJ has been the secondary ball handler and Frank/Lance have been decoy status in the corners for most of that unit's time out there. They've had 22 catch and shoot opportunities combined over five games. Hezonja and Dotson have 30 combined even though Dot's only played in 3 games, add the 3 with Knox in Dotson's spot and that total is 36. It could be argued that they're just not taking the shots when they have them I suppose, but I'd look at the personnel on the floor for why wings get more catch and shoot opportunities in the second unit.

It's him nobody else. Hezonja is a very confident, cocky player always has been he's not turning shots down and he plays aggressive. Dot has a quick trigger he ain’t p*ssy either. It's not a mystery.

 

[ikbm]

Trey.I. slander will not be tolerated

He's a P&R maestro, he can drive and kick, and is always a leader on the floor, and he's one of the lowest turnover guards in the league. He has quickness and has an elite handle.

Right now he's slumping shooting and our offense is trash we don't have any set rotations or continuity. Timmy is the only player that logs over 30 minutes.

My nikka can play the position and break down a defense.

he's not that good. stop it. theres a reason he bounced around and was in the g league.
is he an nba player, yes.
is he a starter on a playoff team? fukk no
he's an undersized ball dominant guard that offers you literally nothing on the other end...and his best attribute is scoring...which he isnt doing a good job at right now
he put up big numbers against teams in the last month and a half of the season where a lot of teams mailed it in...including his career game against the hornets.
a lot of point guards would have chemistry with kp. he would have made an all nba team before his knee blew out
if you wanna say frank is being coddled admit you're coddling a 6 year VETERAN thats playing like shyt too
not getting turnovers =\= great
if you're gonna judge frank off his past....god dammit I got 5 years worth of judging trey burke...but he gets the benefit of the doubt

 

[ISO]

56% down to 52% down to 50% down to 43% and so far he's at 39% this month. Don't baby him.

You being purposefully disingeneous

So Trey Burke was supposed to sustain 56% shooting

January | 25 of 45, 55.6% FG, 33% 3PT
February | 45 of 85, 53% FG, 39% 3PT
March | 95 of 189, 50% FG, 39% 3PT (considering he hit 20 threes this month he was arguably more efficient than ever)
April | 28 of 65, 43% FG, 27% 3PT (only 5 games, %'s thrown off by a 3 of 13 night vs. Milwaukee)

Stop it. He hasn't gotten off to a good start this season, but he's shown flashes and the offense runs better when he's out there.

 

[ikbm]

You being purposefully disingeneous

So Trey Burke was supposed to sustain 56% shooting

January | 25 of 45, 55.6% FG, 33% 3PT
February | 45 of 85, 53% FG, 39% 3PT
March | 95 of 189, 50% FG, 39% 3PT (considering he hit 20 threes this month he was arguably more efficient than ever)
April | 28 of 65, 43% FG, 27% 3PT (4 games, %'s thrown off by a 3 of 13 night vs. Milwaukee, he was dominant in his other 3 games)

Stop it. He hasn't gotten off to a good start this season, but he's shown flashes and the offense runs better when he's out there.

how sway when every single game we start out slow. HOW????????
he and lance come out....and the bench runs rampant for atleast one stretch...in every game we've played.
you go in the advanced statistics and you take out that 1 3rd quarter where he did well against the bucks....he's been terrible.
the offense has been terrible
as the main orchestrator between him and timmy taking ill advised shots. lance thomas having no offensive game and frank being passive...the only thing steady in the lineup is kanter...and he's terrible on defense
the knicks are 28th so far in ppg in the first quarter. who is the ball handler of that group????????

 

[DPresidential]

I can tell we all care about this Knicks team.

After 2 loses to really good teams and playing hard... we were very happy about what we were seeing. We were happy about Frank's defense. We were happy that Timmy needed to just improve his shot selection even by a little to help the team and we were happy w/ what we got out of Kanter, Vonleh and others.

Then... after the youngest team in the NBA has one terrible loss... It's like those positive feelings from literally 48 hours ago just completely get thrown out the window.

These are symbolic of strong emotions - it's what happens when people are really tribal. That's what's up.

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To the brehs who are Frank's biggest critics...tell us...what should be the move now with respect to Frank? Bench him indefinitely? Waive him? Trade him for whatever you can get? Give him more time? Keep it the same?

What would y'all do right now?

 

[storyteller]

It's him nobody else. Hezonja is a very confident, cocky player always has been he's not turning shots down and he plays aggressive. Dot has a quick trigger he ain’t p*ssy either. It's not a mystery.

Lance ain't hesitant to the point that I crucify him most nights, but not this season, he ain't getting chances to shoot let alone force things. The ball handlers just ain't hitting the kickout very often or even curling to attack the lane. It's a lot of settling for jumpers from everyone. The second unit looks fluid, the first unit is one pass to a shot (though I admit there was improvement on that front last night via a swing pass to start most sets).

You being purposefully disingeneous

So Trey Burke was supposed to sustain 56% shooting

January | 25 of 45, 55.6% FG, 33% 3PT
February | 45 of 85, 53% FG, 39% 3PT
March | 95 of 189, 50% FG, 39% 3PT (considering he hit 20 threes this month he was arguably more efficient than ever)
April | 28 of 65, 43% FG, 27% 3PT (4 games, %'s thrown off by a 3 of 13 night vs. Milwaukee, he was dominant in his other 3 games)

Stop it. He hasn't gotten off to a good start this season, but he's shown flashes and the offense runs better when he's out there.

Oh I'm definitely semi-trolling you on this one, but the fact you can recognize that a four game sample in April can skew data makes it weird that you're zoned in on Frank over a 5 game sample now...you get it when it's Trey to the level of "he's shown flashes" as an excuse for his piss poor play so far; but it's babying Frank when heads point out the same.

 

[ISO]

he's not that good. stop it. theres a reason he bounced around and was in the g league.
is he an nba player, yes.
is he a starter on a playoff team? fukk no
he's an undersized ball dominant guard that offers you literally nothing on the other end...and his best attribute is scoring...which he isnt doing a good job at right now
he put up big numbers against teams in the last month and a half of the season where a lot of teams mailed it in...including his career game against the hornets.
a lot of point guards would have chemistry with kp. he would have made an all nba team before his knee blew out
if you wanna say frank is being coddled admit you're coddling a 6 year VETERAN thats playing like shyt too
not getting turnovers =\= great
if you're gonna judge frank off his past....god dammit I got 5 years worth of judging trey burke...but he gets the benefit of the doubt

Who said he was that good? Who said he was a starter on a playoff team?

Who cares about him bouncing around the league and being in the G-League? His pedigree and talent level is known. He's not even the same player he came into the league as, clearly a late bloomer. He's the best damn floor general we have. And nah you not gonna summarize his play last season as a month against mailing teams mailing it in. Foh.

Trey Burke displayed the best chemistry with KP. We have struggled to get him the ball historically.

Frank is our damn lottery pick. He’s been absolutely terrible offensively.

 

[DPresidential]

Who said he was that good? Who said he was a starter on a playoff team?

Who cares about him bouncing around the league and being in the G-League? His pedigree and talent level is known. He's not even the same player he came into the league as, clearly a late bloomer. He's the best damn floor general we have. And nah you not gonna summarize his play last season as a month against mailing teams mailing it in. Foh.

Trey Burke displayed the best chemistry with KP. We have struggled to get him the ball historically.

Frank is our damn lottery pick. He’s been absolutely terrible offensively.

Breh... The...

But.....

I mean...








Frank has only just played his 86th game!!

nikka hasn't even gotten to the BL in bloom. He's as fresh as he can get.


Can you even offer the same type of rational towards Frank Ntilikina who was drafted literally 4 seconds ago?

 

[ikbm]

Who said he was that good? Who said he was a starter on a playoff team?

Who cares about him bouncing around the league and being in the G-League? His pedigree and talent level is known. He's not even the same player he came into the league as, clearly a late bloomer. He's the best damn floor general we have. And nah you not gonna summarize his play last season as a month against mailing teams mailing it in. Foh.

Trey Burke displayed the best chemistry with KP. We have struggled to get him the ball historically.

Frank is our damn lottery pick. He’s been absolutely terrible offensively.

trey was somebody elses lottery pick and you're coddling. pedigree dont mean much 6 years in. most players dont jump after the 3rd or 4th year.
all these adjectives you used to describe him hasnt translated to a good offense when he's on the court
pick and roll maestro, elite handle, low turnovers, a leader. these things you saying make it sound like he's prime chris paul not the starting point guard of a floundering offense when he's on the court
everytime frank and kp were on the court last year the splits were astronomical. they played well together as well.
kp covered up the flaws of a lot of players on defense and was a safety net for trey on offense in their severely limited time together