Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[Miles Davis]

My breakdown got deleted after damn near everyone was written up except the throwaways like Kornet. So I'm cuttin' to quick bits:

1. Trey Burke is good for scoring but that's it. He doesn't have the floor awareness to punish a collapsing defense consistently and when his roll man is covered there's an instinct to just shoot.

2. Timmy's decision making was better last night but watching him jaw at Trey Burke and Enes Kanter wasn't cool to me. Either do it calmly or do it during time out but don't make a scene on the court midgame when you're the biggest culprit for going under screens and late help (leading to and-ones).

3. Kanter can either slow down the PnR ball handler or he can stop the roll man from getting the ball. But he can't do both simultaneously which means when guards go over screens, they get punished more often than not.

7. Mario goes Wario and isn't good enough to do that. He needs a shorter leash when he presses.

This is why I think a lot of the offense woes is on the coaching, too many times I see Trey, Tim and Kanter doing what they want or being the main scorers and passing to one another. Pay attention, it’s not only Frank who passes the half court and passes to one of the 3.

Dude said Wario
We gonna see a lot of that M flipping to the W this season

the problem is, our starting line up consists of 5 players who would come off the bench for any elite nba team. trey thomas kanter tim all were bench players until they came here.

they are being put in roles that dont match their skill set. in other words, the team is trash

its up to fitz to bench players if hes tellin dem to run a offense and they arent listening. doesnt seem like we are running anything tho

Definitely seems like it on Fiz, dude has said all the right things but these games have shown that he’s not sitting to his word 100%. Dudes ain’t running team ball but are still being rewarded, first unit ain’t really playing d but still being rewarded. I get we need offense but it’s looking like the chucks and ball stoppers are being reinforced negatively.

 

[ISO]

Trey.I. slander will not be tolerated

He's a P&R maestro, he can drive and kick, and is always a leader on the floor, and he's one of the lowest turnover guards in the league. He has quickness and has an elite handle.

Right now he's slumping shooting and our offense is trash we don't have any set rotations or continuity. Timmy is the only player that logs over 30 minutes.

My nikka can play the position and break down a defense.

 

[ISO]

Ntlikina is tanking our offense. It's early but the team is -13.8 points with Frank on the floor offensively.

Dude HAS to get his shyt together for the better of the team. You can't have hesitant players that shyt tanks an offense. We are starting games 3 on 5 with him and Thomas out there.

Just because dude sometimes makes a nice pocket pass in the P&R and is a swing passer that moves the ball doesn't mean he's a good PG. He's predictable and telegraphs passes and is not a threat to score at all.

Stop babying this nikka

 

[DPresidential]

Ntlikina is tanking our offense. It's early but the team is -13.8 points with Frank on the floor offensively.

Dude HAS to get his shyt together for the better of the team. You can't have hesitant players that shyt tanks an offense. We are starting games 3 on 5 with him and Thomas out there.

Just because dude sometimes makes a nice pocket pass in the P&R and is a swing passer that moves the ball doesn't mean he's a good PG. He's predictable and telegraphs passes and is not a threat to score at all.

Stop babying this nikka

Breh...no one is babying him.


We are 29th in the league in team assists... That's not because of Frank.

Frank had the potential to be an exceptional v traditional PG in the mold of a Kerr, Stockon and Billups.

With the current iso behavior of our main scorers, Frank's offensive skill set gets muted.

Now, I do think we are doing well offensively despite our iso reliance however, Timmy, Trey and Trier being tweaked to give a little more deference to ball movement would make them better and Frank greater as a PG.

Frank playing in Denver with Jokic, Frank would be exceptional. Frank playing in Houston with Harden and Melo would look like he does here, flashes of potential but mainly muted.

Now, it is a valid question that will need to be answered in the future of whether Frank need to be forced to find a place in iso heavy team structure or whether Fiz sees what Frank fans see and should try to tweak the team behavior to maximize Frank's potential.

Now... Let me be clear... With KP, the pendulum can swing either way...

KP NEEDS to be a better passer. However, he may be sufficient enough to pass out of a double to the open man... If that's the case, Frank has a place in the role of excellent set up person on the PnR and capable of hitting the open 3.

If KP is unable to develop more as a big who can find the open cut man, Frank may not be right for the franchise with KP as the corner Stone unless we truly regulate him to the second unit.


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[BornStar]

I missed that game but all i have to say is Determination over Trust nikka what that mean DOT!!!!

 

[BornStar]

I told you nikkas about Dotson where are the doubters! I said he was one of the best kept secrets on the Knicks and could start. As long as we keep Kanter, Dotson, Knox, I like Robinson, THJr and a couple of other knicks for the next 5 years i think we will be good.

Fiz dont let the heart/ real players of the city go away.

 

[Ironman]

Trey.I. slander will not be tolerated

He's a P&R maestro, he can drive and kick, and is always a leader on the floor, and he's one of the lowest turnover guards in the league. He has quickness and has an elite handle.

Right now he's slumping shooting and our offense is trash we don't have any set rotations or continuity. Timmy is the only player that logs over 30 minutes.

My nikka can play the position and break down a defense.

 

[ISO]

Breh...no one is babying him.


We are 29th in the league in team assists... That's not because of Frank.

Frank had the potential to be an exceptional v traditional PG in the mold of a Kerr, Stockon and Billups.

With the current iso behavior of our main scorers, Frank's offensive skill set gets muted.

Now, I do think we are doing well offensively despite our iso reliance however, Timmy, Trey and Trier being tweaked to give a little more deference to ball movement would make them better and Frank greater as a PG.

Frank playing in Denver with Jokic, Frank would be exceptional. Frank playing in Houston with Harden and Melo would look like he does here, flashes of potential but mainly muted.

No, he is definitely being babied something serious.

We are 29th in assists and our offense is what it is specifically because Frank (and Thomas) tank our offense. Like I said we're starting games playing 3 on 5. We're talking about a player who has gotten to the free throw line once all season, misses open C&S looks, refuses to take midrange dribble pull-ups, you would think a player with his length would wreak havoc in transition going coast to coast but he does not attack. He gets the ball in the half court and passes right off or does nothing with it.

 

[BornStar]

Like i gives a fukk about dennis smith jr

If you wanna bring up Donovan Mitchell thats a different story

Cant change history. Frank is still very young, way too soon for me to write him off. He cant even buy alcohol yet. Seems silly to me. Its obvious a few of Franks haters are trolling. I won't mention them by the name, its best to ignore them and not quote them. They just want attention

I feel like that was a shot at me

If it is, i can say You can criticize someone and not like the decision of your team while not be a hater. I understand you are a positive Knicks fan (there are many types of Knicks Fans) Trust me my brother is one. He loved all of the decisions the Knicks make.

This nikka said Cleanthony Was going to be the next Carmelo. (Especially when that article came out of Phil Jackson liking him)

He also didn't have a problem with the Noah signing.



Trust im trying to embrace him(Frank) now. He isn't bad but when he was drafted i felt like Malik Monk and DSJr were the better picks.

Fan was too raw of a player for me. No skills with some fundamentals. Mfs were talking about wing span like its the end all be all. You know who else had a crazy wing span Rodrigue Beaubois.

It is what it is. Again im embracing him now (not hating ) but Keeping it a thousand idk if you can say Frank is better than Malik or DsJr (at least as far as the stat sheet). Being a team player maybe a different story.

 

[ISO]

Trey Burke in the P&R has always been a strong suit going back to his days at Michigan. His chemistry with Porzingis was excelent. He was very good in the P&R last season fym


He is very capable of hitting rollers and poppers, keeping the dribble low and surveying the floor, and shooting off the pick or sneaking to the rim. He had a game with 15 assists last season, an 8:2 assists to turnover ratio per 36 minutes last season.

 

[ISO]

Frank supposed to be the Giannis of PG's

 

[Miles Davis]

It ain’t fair to compare Frank to Trey, they grew up in different systems and Trey been in the league longer. If Frank still playing like this in 2-3 years I’ll cede to y’all. However, I also think it’s the development staff. But we’ll see if it’s them if Knox and Mitch don’t seem to make strides either.

 

[storyteller]

Trey Burke was statistically the 3rd worst defender in the league over 36 games last season and his numbers declined with each month. He's shooting a sub-40% on 12 shots per game. He's 26 years old and has been in the league for 6 years. We probably are babying Frank, but that's because he's 20 years old and playing out of position most of the game right now. If we're gonna be harsh on both, Frank actually plays defense and BOTH have been playing weak offensively.

Also, Dennis Smith is shooting 14 shots per game to score 13.8 per game and was the 10th worst in the league defensively last year. I think he'll be really good and deserves the same room to grow that Frank does, but yall are gassing him and letting a Dallas fan run his mouth now? Cut it out.

 

[ISO]

It ain’t fair to compare Frank to Trey, they grew up in different systems and Trey been in the league longer. If Frank still playing like this in 2-3 years I’ll cede to y’all. However, I also think it’s the development staff. But we’ll see if it’s them if Knox and Mitch don’t seem to make strides either.

Not comparing them. They're supposed to coexist but Frank does nothing offensively. Frank is supposed to be able to hide Trey on defense and allow him to play the lanes which he is low key good at. Frank is supposed to be a secondary ball handler, he should be pushing the ball in transition off every rebound and turnover, he should be filling lanes and the wing with a purpose if he's not handling the ball in these situations, he should be excelling in the C&S and he's supposed to be taking and making shots under screens and open midrange dribble pull ups, he should be running off screens with a purpose.

He is averaging 6.5 points on 36% shooting from the field, 35% (average to slightly below average) from 3 on mostly open looks, and has gotten to the line once in 5 games and he's averaging 29.8 minutes per game and starting. The team is significantly better statistically offensively when he off the floor. This is atrocious. No excuses.

 

[Wargames]

Once again it's hella early in the season and the Analyst told ya'll we were going to win low games.

Relax, enjoy the Fall, take out the wife and kids, or take out a cute woman (it's cuffin season) and don't stress this.....

Especially with Knox out. In the grand scheme of things we are supposed to lose as long as they play hard.