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Can we remove Jimmy Butler from the thread title? If he does come to NY, it's not gonna be anytime soon.

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theres no such thing ad positionless basketball lol
its just a catchy phrase
frank played the 2 the entire game and was not giving freedom to run the offensive like the other 2 guards
same shyt happened when horn wss here
i will be monitoring the rest of the pre season to see if fitz trust frank to run the offense, if not, then its pretty telling

frank is not a 2 no matter how tall he gets

I mean, it's what he's calling it. Having hybrids all over the court and looking for 5s to push it up court. What would you call it?

He's been transparent. It's one game. No need to compare it to the previous regime. And if after 5 pre season games he's not the primary handler, so what? He has consistent pushed not having a traditional primary guard. Doesn't prove anything, isn't telling of anything. If he's out there defending, getting some buckets and assists and the team is winning, is the sticking point really going to be Frank isn't the primary ball handler, I was right? :stopitslime:
 

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I mean, it's what he's calling it. Having hybrids all over the court and looking for 5s to push it up court. What would you call it?

He's been transparent. It's one game. No need to compare it to the previous regime. And if after 5 pre season games he's not the primary handler, so what? He has consistent pushed not having a traditional primary guard. Doesn't prove anything, isn't telling of anything. If he's out there defending, getting some buckets and assists and the team is winning, is the sticking point really going to be Frank isn't the primary ball handler, I was right? :stopitslime:
we drafted him to be our point guard of the future.
if hes not our point guard of the future, and is just gonna be a natural defender (with no natural offensive skills)
than that is tellin and needs to be addressed next season.
because trey and mudiay aint our long term solution at point guard either. so we would need one.

it also means that if frank isnt our starting point guard, then he might be an bench player for us. he is not a shooting guard

if you watched the game yesterday, both mudiay and trey took turns playing "primary" point guard, so im not sure what you are talking about
 

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I mean Fiz said his system needs two ball handlers at all times.

Also, the best lineup was in the 3rd quarter when the team went from 59 - 62 to 71 - 66

PG/SG-Frank
SG/PG-Mudiay
F-Knox
F-Mario
C-Mitch

Also it wasn't against scrubs that was with Porter and Beal out there. So let's just wait until I don't know maybe the regular season is a few weeks in before we start calling people scrubs and saying they don't fit
 

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we drafted him to be our point guard of the future.
if hes not our point guard of the future, and is just gonna be a natural defender (with no natural offensive skills)
than that is tellin and needs to be addressed next season.
because trey and mudiay aint our long term solution at point guard either. so we would need one.

it also means that if frank isnt our starting point guard, then he might be an bench player for us. he is not a shooting guard

if you watched the game yesterday, both mudiay and trey took turns playing "primary" point guard, so im not sure what you are talking about

When/where did I say he was the primary ball handler?:dwillhuh:

The whole basis of my response is so the fukk what if he isn't the primary ball handler? You have a coach actively touting going against the traditional concept of playing 5 on 5 ball and dismiss it as buzz words.

You have a coach actively talking about using multiple ball handlers and your sticking point and focus is whether or not Frank is the primary because he was drafted by a different regime to be the point of the future.

Dog...different management. Different vision. Maybe Frank becomes the primary. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe Burke is in the plans. Maybe they innovate. Why is the automatic thought that dude doesn't trust him? Just let it play out. The worst case scenario is you're right and he doesn't trust him and even then you have a coach willing to think outside the box, put players in positions they can succeed in and maximizes strengths where they like, irrespective of whatever "future" tag someone might have. Wouldn't that be a good thing? :comeon:
 

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When/where did I say he was the primary ball handler?:dwillhuh:

The whole basis of my response is so the fukk what if he isn't the primary ball handler? You have a coach actively touting going against the traditional concept of playing 5 on 5 ball and dismiss it as buzz words.

You have a coach actively talking about using multiple ball handlers and your sticking point and focus is whether or not Frank is the primary because he was drafted by a different regime to be the point of the future.

Dog...different management. Different vision. Maybe Frank becomes the primary. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe Burke is in the plans. Maybe they innovate. Why is the automatic thought that dude doesn't trust him? Just let it play out. The worst case scenario is you're right and he doesn't trust him and even then you have a coach willing to think outside the box, put players in positions they can succeed in and maximizes strengths where they like, irrespective of whatever "future" tag someone might have. Wouldn't that be a good thing? :comeon:
u said fitz has pushed the idea of us having no primary ball handler, and im just pointing out that mudiay and trey were primary ball handlers last night when on the floor.
trey and mudiay have no future with us
i would like to no whether frank can be our starting pg of the future before the season is over
 

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But....


:hubie:


Aight breh check in with your homies Scotty, Stevie and Dave and let them know that they're working on your time table I guess.











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Arguably the best perimeter defender in the nba, with a better handle ( and likely a better spot up shooter too)? I'd be happy with that. People kind of underestimate how important Roberson was to the Thunder last year.

That's the thing, getting an elite defender who functions as a glue type on offense because of his flexibility is a good deal. How he's utilized should inform our draft pick and use of cap space for sure, but that he's had success on and off the ball means we'll have more options. I still think with the top pick that I'd go SG who can handle, but it's fluid. I will say that Frank on main ball handler for the first five minutes of that third was the most promise any of the three PG's showed; Burke is clearly more consistent though (only thing is his vision and playmaking are secondary to his scoring).
 

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Kevin Knox can take longer strides running the court reducing the amount of steps he takes but he didn't. That's what I'll be looking to see progress in as the season comes to pass.

It's been a while since we've had a confident point guard and even when he takes bad shots Burke still looks A1.

Kanter had a Kanter game. Big numbers this season though.

Mudiay is not improving. He's been at an impasse since his last season with Denver after the All-star break. I don't know what it is with him but he doesn't seem to like playing.

Hardaway, needs to be playing with Frank or Mudiay all of the time. I still believe he can be the ball handler this team needs. Unfortunately he acts like Wiggins and chills at the three point line. Wasting his talent as Oladipo surges once again.
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Robinson is raw, his boxing out and rebounding instincts will improve over time. May Kanter guide him.
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Hezonja I would rather him start and let Timmy sit. But we can't have 17 mill on the bench wait that's Noah too. :hhh:

Where is Courtney Lee fitting in this new lineup?
 
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Willy putting up 16/10 in 16 minutes brehs...:howobama:

Knicks aint won a trade since they got Earl the Pearl........:francis:
We won the Melo trade for Kanter and the second rounder:yeshrug:
I watched the game and yeah, Willy does look really good(He's looked pretty good since the last month of last season if you ask me). Willy is gonna end up eating all of Kaminsky's minutes, and he might end up the starter before the all star break if he keeps it up.
Having Robinson makes that trade hurt a lot less though.
 
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