Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[Peter Popoff]

Hell no. If they don't sign star level players, they're screwed. That Clippers team won 48 games in a deep Western Conference. Their depth completely shyts on ours. Besides Mitchell Robinson, I can list at least LAC eight players better than the Knicks second best player. Doc Rivers is an established championship coach. We don't know what David Fizdale is right now.

I was saying at worst meaning if we don't get top agents, we pick decent picks like Pat Beverley, Taureen Prince, Michael Conley, Morris or Tobias Harris while dumping trash like Frank and Mudiay. Y'all are under rating Hezonja and Dotson. I really think coach was telling them to tank and pushing Mudiay to get us to the bottom while some of those wins were accidental. I was really studying the game when Knox and Mitch were hot and being taken out of the game so that we could lose. It's all bball politics and there's a reason why the Knicks were so comfortable and happy with a 17 win record. They were treating this season like training camp. Do you remember Doc Rivers first year as Clippers coach?

Let's add in the fact that, we're in the east so it takes less than 48 wins to get us in the playoffs. We can make it to the playoffs if we stop bringing in d- league players off the lack of a bench and acquire good role players for a 1 year contract if we don't get top picks. At better, we could get Kyrie and 2 roles for KDs spot, 2 PFs to get Mitch out of foul trouble. Dennis can learn off of Kyrie. Henzonja and Knox at the small. RJ, Trier and Dotson learning the 2. Even bump Dotson to the 1 if Dennis is out.

 

[Wargames]

I'd be cool with filling in roster holes with some vets who have skillsets that compliment our current crop. Last year was a good attempt at bringing in cheap, low risk players but "fit" went out the window. If we chased Portis for better spacing, I'd be cool with that. I'd also tap Charlotte about MKG's expiring, they'll probably want to cut some expenses to pay Kemba to stay and we could use him as a stopper while maybe adding another asset for the favor we'd be doing Charlotte. Those kinda moves would be scoffed at in light of the hype for KD/Kyrie/Kawhi; but I'd rather do those than jump on the treadmill. We'd be in a position to strike next offseason or at the trade deadline while the youngsters would continue their development in rotations that actually fit together well.

I didn’t even realize Bobby Portis was available. He would be perfect and you know the Wizards aren’t trying to match even a decent deal. Portis and Marcus Morris are the type of PF we need next to Mitch. He and DLo would be my top two RFA targets.

DLo
RJ
Knox
Portis
Mitch

That lineup could win some games this year and has time to grow.

 

[Derek Lee]

I was saying at worst meaning if we don't get top agents, we pick decent picks like Pat Beverley, Taureen Prince, Michael Conley, Morris or Tobias Harris while dumping trash like Frank and Mudiay. Y'all are under rating Hezonja and Dotson. I really think coach was telling them to tank and pushing Mudiay to get us to the bottom while some of those wins were accidental. I was really studying the game when Knox and Mitch were hot and being taken out of the game so that we could lose. It's all bball politics and there's a reason why the Knicks were so comfortable and happy with a 17 win record. They were treating this season like training camp. Do you remember Doc Rivers first year as Clippers coach?

Let's add in the fact that, we're in the east so it takes less than 48 wins to get us in the playoffs. We can make it to the playoffs if we stop bringing in d- league players off the lack of a bench and acquire good role players for a 1 year contract if we don't get top picks. At better, we could get Kyrie and 2 roles for KDs spot, 2 PFs to get Mitch out of foul trouble. Dennis can learn off of Kyrie. Henzonja and Knox at the small. RJ, Trier and Dotson learning the 2. Even bump Dotson to the 1 if Dennis is out.

Prince is a RFA next year. Conley has three years left on his deal in Memphis. Hezonja was trash last year. Dotson is a potential 3&D starter on the team. The front office and coach were on record trying to win games, not tank. The roster from top to bottom was HORRIBLE. Knox had the one of the biggest leashes as a rookie in the league. He played 29 minutes every game while being arguably the worst player in the league. Your points are nonsensical. They can add solid vets on the team and young players can show progress. Doesn't mean they can make a 31 game improvement!!! Clippers lost to the Thunder in six in the Western Conference semis in Doc's first year.

 

[storyteller]

I didn’t even realize Bobby Portis was available. He would be perfect and you know the Wizards aren’t trying to match even a decent deal. Portis and Marcus Morris are the type of PF we need next to Mitch. He and DLo would be my top two RFA targets.

DLo
RJ
Knox
Portis
Mitch

That lineup could win some games this year and has time to grow.

I'm not as big on DLo as some heads (I think he's good with high usage but needs to be a lot better if you're winning with him and he's not worth it without that high usage). That unit though is one that I could ride with. They're on a long timeline with every piece complimenting the next offensively. The question mark would be defense, that's a lot of guys who don't have good defensive motors for Mitch to try and cover for but it's also guys like RJ and Knox who have the tools but need the mindset. Honestly, I'd be cool trying to get Beverley cheap to lead for the time being and push these guys to stay turned up defensively while DSJ keeps developing. That'd leave us plenty of space to grab unwanted contracts and prep for whichever elite 2020 FA's shake loose.

 

[storyteller]

2019 NBA Draft Rumors: Hawks Eyeing Trade Up from No. 8 for Jarrett Culver

Could end up being relevant to us as one of the three teams that I'd expect the Hawks to reach out to about leap frogging the Suns. I still don't see a reasonable exchange to get them up to three though. 8, 10, 17 is cool but I'd rather swing for an elite player as we're already fairly loaded with solid young prospects with upside but who can still be hit or miss. We'll need to start consolidating soon, not the reverse.

2019 NBA Draft Rumors: Hawks Eyeing Trade Up from No. 8 for Jarrett Culver


The Atlanta Hawks aim to utilize their 2019 NBA draft capital to move up and select Texas Tech star Jarrett Culver, according to Sports Illustrated's Jeremy Woo.

Woo noted that the Hawks may need to jump the Phoenix Suns, who will pick sixth, if they want Culver. Per Woo, the Suns are "extremely high" on Culver.

Culver led the Red Raiders to their first national championship berth in 2018-19. He averaged 18.5 points on 46.1 percent shooting while adding 6.4 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.5 steals per game.

In the 2019 NCAA tournament, he put up 18.5 points, 6.8 rebounds, 4.2 assists and 1.8 steals.

As of June 5, according to SNY TV's Ian Begley, Culver had worked out for the New York Knicks (No. 3 pick), Los Angeles Lakers (No. 4), Cleveland Cavaliers (No. 5), Phoenix and the Chicago Bulls (No. 7).

 

[Miles Davis]

I was saying at worst meaning if we don't get top agents, we pick decent picks like Pat Beverley, Taureen Prince, Michael Conley, Morris or Tobias Harris while dumping trash like Frank and Mudiay. Y'all are under rating Hezonja and Dotson. I really think coach was telling them to tank and pushing Mudiay to get us to the bottom while some of those wins were accidental. I was really studying the game when Knox and Mitch were hot and being taken out of the game so that we could lose. It's all bball politics and there's a reason why the Knicks were so comfortable and happy with a 17 win record. They were treating this season like training camp. Do you remember Doc Rivers first year as Clippers coach?

Let's add in the fact that, we're in the east so it takes less than 48 wins to get us in the playoffs. We can make it to the playoffs if we stop bringing in d- league players off the lack of a bench and acquire good role players for a 1 year contract if we don't get top picks. At better, we could get Kyrie and 2 roles for KDs spot, 2 PFs to get Mitch out of foul trouble. Dennis can learn off of Kyrie. Henzonja and Knox at the small. RJ, Trier and Dotson learning the 2. Even bump Dotson to the 1 if Dennis is out.

You don’t tell players to tank.

 

[Kitsch]

Do we resign Vonleh?

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

2019 NBA Draft Rumors: Hawks Eyeing Trade Up from No. 8 for Jarrett Culver

Could end up being relevant to us as one of the three teams that I'd expect the Hawks to reach out to about leap frogging the Suns. I still don't see a reasonable exchange to get them up to three though. 8, 10, 17 is cool but I'd rather swing for an elite player as we're already fairly loaded with solid young prospects with upside but who can still be hit or miss. We'll need to start consolidating soon, not the reverse.

We not trading all three of our picks just to move up

 

[Miles Davis]

Do we resign Vonleh?

For the right price yes.

 

[RickyGQ]

Do we resign Vonleh?

He was a guy Id like to spend the exception on. I think he’s one of those guys like frank who will benefit the most from having elite talent around him.


I was also listening to the locked on knicks podcast and they talked about the possibility of KD opting in and then the warriors trading him to us with a ridiculously protected second round pick as a sort of solid they’d be doing for him. We’d then let him rehab on the final year of his deal and keep his bird rights to which he’d be able to sign a 5 year deal instead of 4. With the 5 year deal being worth more annually, we could probably get some injury protections on it.

 

[ShadowViper]

If DLO lead the Nets to the playoffs and yet they seem to not want to bring him back, what does that tell you? I just don't want the Knicks to strike out with all other big name FAs and then over pay him. I'm cool with them signing him on the right kind of deal.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Do we resign Vonleh?

I'd go for Gallinari and O Quinn or Morris.

 

[Peter Popoff]

You don’t tell players to tank.

You don't have to and it's unethical to tell them to but you don't have to put the pressure on rookies neither when it's expected. What you do is capitalize off of using this season to train them on their strengths and weaknesses, take notes and prepare for the next season so that you know who to pick. You also look for talent in the d- leagues, the same way you've found Burke and Trier and work on rebuilding. It was expected for them to lose and in little words. Perry, Mills and Fizdale said to expect a different team for next season. It was said without words. I have no doubt, Mudiay and Frank will either get dropped or have very very limited minutes by next season and we'll expect a different team. This past season, everyone was trying to show Fizdale how good they were to stay and not focused on just winning.

 

[RickyGQ]

If DLO lead the Nets to the playoffs and yet they seem to not want to bring him back, what does that tell you? I just don't want the Knicks to strike out with all other big name FAs and then over pay him. I'm cool with them signing him on the right kind of deal.

Yea I’m not high in d Lo either. Every nets fan i know says Levert is their best player. D Lo is good for sure but i don’t know how much better he can get.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Prince is a RFA next year. Conley has three years left on his deal in Memphis. Hezonja was trash last year. Dotson is a potential 3&D starter on the team. The front office and coach were on record trying to win games, not tank. The roster from top to bottom was HORRIBLE. Knox had the one of the biggest leashes as a rookie in the league. He played 29 minutes every game while being arguably the worst player in the league. Your points are nonsensical. They can add solid vets on the team and young players can show progress. Doesn't mean they can make a 31 game improvement!!! Clippers lost to the Thunder in six in the Western Conference semis in Doc's first year.

My bad, I was going off that link a couple of post up. I also don't remember what years there were but the clippers had a few bad seasons and still bounced back with Rivers coaching. I'm not saying the Knicks could win 48 games in the east, I'm saying they could win 30 to 40 games which is playoff contending in the east with a few minor changes that will keep them from digging at the bottom of the barrel into the d leagues when Dennis Smith, Mitch or Knox is injured. The games where Knox did terrible, he was being outmatched by power forwards which is not his position in position less basketball. At small forward wingman, Knox shows potential which will compliment RJ if he's good.