Kobe Was Ridiculous

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THE ONLY ALL-TIME GREAT WHO WAS ALSO A JOURNEYMAN

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Wilt and Shaq switched teams faster than Bron did. Throw a bunch more players on there too if you count all-time greats outside the top 10. You consistently show that you don't know jack shyt about basketball.
 

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Wilt and Shaq switched teams faster than Bron did. Throw a bunch more players on there too if you count all-time greats outside the top 10. You consistently show that you don't know jack shyt about basketball.

SHAQ SPENT HIS ENTIRE PRIME ON THE LAKERS LOL

8 SEASONS

MORE THAN ANY TEAM LEBRON STUCK WIT

WILT ONLY SWITCHED TEAMS ONCE IN HIS PRIME N THAT WAS VIA TRADE

BRON PLAYED ON 3 DIFF SQUADS IN HIS PRIME .. AND EACH TIME HE LEFT A CONTENDER ON HIW OWN ACCORD

YOU JUST TOOK PRIDE N SAYIN HE WAS GUNA PLAY FOR THE SPURS NEXT TOO.. SO EMBRACE IT IF THATS WHAT U FEEL.
 

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Rim protector is nearly always more important than a perimeter defender. Shaq did his job as a rim protector, averaging 2.5 blocks/game while keeping his defensive responsibility in check and keeping the opponent from having easy paths to the basket. He had big block totals and strong interior defense in each big series during the threepeat. In that 2000-2002 window, the only teams that gave the Lakers trouble were ones that put up a ton of midrange jump shots. There's a reason he made 3 All-Defensive teams in that stretch despite there being only two center slots and having to go up against Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, and Ben Wallace.

Perimeter defenders can only be more important when they're either a great team defender/defensive leader, or when they completely shut down an important #1 option. Kobe in 2000-2004 wasn't that. He was a better on-ball defender than a team defender, and he often had lapses. He wasn't the defensive leader, and he didn't shut down his primary responsibility in any major series. Like Phil said, he got by on spectacular plays that got attention, not on good consistent defense.





Here are the 7 top perimeter scoring threats that the Lakers faced in competitive series from 2000-2004. Tell me which one Kobe shut down:


15ppg on 58 TS% - Steve Smith regular season
18ppg on 61 TS% - Steve Smith against Lakers


18ppg on 60 TS% - Reggie Miller regular season
24ppg on 59 TS% - Reggie Miller against Lakers


18ppg on 55 TS% - Jalen Rose regular season
23ppg on 56 TS% - Jalen Rose against Lakers


31ppg on 52 TS% - Allen Iverson regular season
36ppg on 49 TS% - Allen Iverson against Lakers


14ppg on 51 TS% - Mike Bibby regular season
23ppg on 53 TS% - Mike Bibby against Lakers


18ppg on 52 TS% - Rip Hamilton regular season
21ppg on 50 TS% - Rip Hamilton against Lakers


17 ppg on 55 TS% - Chauncey Billups regular season
21ppg on 70 TS% - Chauncey Billups against Lakers



Outside of Iverson and Reggie, those aren't even 1st-tier scorers, yet they ALL got buckets against the Lakers. If Kobe was more valuable on defense than Shaq was, what the hell happened?
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SHAQ SPENT HIS ENTIRE PRIME ON THE LAKERS LOL

8 SEASONS

MORE THAN ANY TEAM LEBRON STUCK WIT

Shaq left after 4, 8, 3.5, 2, 1, 1

Lebron left after 7, 4, (returned to old team for 4), and now 5 and counting


Claiming that Lebron is a journeyman and not Shaq is nonsense.




WILT ONLY SWITCHED TEAMS ONCE IN HIS PRIME N THAT WAS VIA TRADE


So you don't even know that Wilt forced the trades both times? He literally said they had to trade him or he wouldn't play. Like I say, you don't know shyt about basketball.

And he was the reigning MVP when he forced that 2nd trade to the Lakers, but you want to claim he wasn't in his prime anymore? What a liar.


Wilt: 4 years, 4 years, 5 years

Lebron: 7 years, 4 years, (return 4 years), 5 years


Wilt CLEARLY switched just as often as Bron, he just had a shorter career. And that's not even counting that he quit college after 3 years to play for the Globetrotters for a year, and threatened to quit the NBA after his rookie year cause he got fouled too much. So really he was even more of a "journeyman" than his NBA career shows.


You don't know what the fukk you're talking about in any basketball discussion.
 

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You sticking with that ban bet @Sccit you fat white boy? We can go ahead and delete that account right here and now
 

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Its hilarious watching you bums argue over stats when all you need to do is use the bloody eye test

you can tell who is a real baller and who never had any feel or talent in the game

EVERY REAL BALLER WORTH A DAMN WILL TELL YOU KOBE OVER LEBRON

How one can watch both and come to the conclusion bron is better is insane.

Its Mike 1A and Kobe 1B

LEBRON CANT EVEN GET HIS OWN SHOT WITHOUT A PICK FOR GOD SAKES

END OF STORY
 

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Shaq left after 4, 8, 3.5, 2, 1, 1

Lebron left after 7, 4, (returned to old team for 4), and now 5 and counting


Claiming that Lebron is a journeyman and not Shaq is nonsense.







So you don't even know that Wilt forced the trades both times? He literally said they had to trade him or he wouldn't play. Like I say, you don't know shyt about basketball.

And he was the reigning MVP when he forced that 2nd trade to the Lakers, but you want to claim he wasn't in his prime anymore? What a liar.


Wilt: 4 years, 4 years, 5 years

Lebron: 7 years, 4 years, (return 4 years), 5 years


Wilt CLEARLY switched just as often as Bron, he just had a shorter career. And that's not even counting that he quit college after 3 years to play for the Globetrotters for a year, and threatened to quit the NBA after his rookie year cause he got fouled too much. So really he was even more of a "journeyman" than his NBA career shows.


You don't know what the fukk you're talking about in any basketball discussion.


YOU TRY WAY TOO HARD

IVE LITERALLY READ BOOKS DETAILING WILTS CAREER

NOTHIN U SAY WILL CHANGE THE FACT THAT BRON IS WORSE THAN SHAQ AND WAY WORSE THAN WILT WHEN IT COMES TO TEAM HOPPIN
 

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Kobe played 20 years and only has 1 mvp and wasnt even the best player on the majority of rings he won. Also has the record of failed fgs/shots in nba history. He isnt a top 10 player
 
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You sticking with that ban bet @Sccit you fat white boy? We can go ahead and delete that account right here and now

FUNNY HOW U DODGED THE BET THEN U COME IN HERE TO SOLIDIFY THAT U A FAT WHITE BOY PROJECTING

ONCE AGAIN, WHAT PROOF R U GOIN TO OFFER? IF U WILLIN TO POST UP YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND PROVE THAT ITS U AND WE ON

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FUNNY HOW U DODGED THE BET THEN U COME IN HERE TO SOLIDIFY THAT U A FAT WHITE BOY PROJECTING

ONCE AGAIN, WHAT PROOF R U GOIN TO OFFER? IF U WILLIN TO POST UP YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND PROVE THAT ITS U AND WE ON

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We can get a mod right here right now to verify... @CantStop @Don Homer care to join


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Kobe played 20 years and only has 1 fmvp and wasnt even the best player on the majority of rings he won. Also has the record of failed fgs/shots in nba history. He isnt a top 10 player


KOBE HAS 1 FMVP?

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STICK TO BASEBALL SON
 

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KOBE HAS 1 FMVP?

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STICK TO BASEBALL SON
*mvp
He was never able to win mvp more than once in 20 years. He is not a top 10 player. Refrain from further quoting me you are a known troll and charlatan on here.
 
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