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Both Shaq and Kobe needed each other
Umm no, T Mac , VC, AI, Ray etc would have all won with prime Shaq
Kobe Bryant Says He Wouldnt Comeback With 100% Shot At Ring "No, I Like My Rings The Hard Way"
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Umm no, T Mac , VC, AI, Ray etc would have all won with prime Shaq
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Shaq averaged more rebounds than Kobe averaged points the 2000 finals yet they still won
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Spoken errrrr typed with intelligence and scholarship.stop the bullsh*t lying ass nikka
has Pau ever made an all-def team? Nikka was an all star reserve
he was a top 30 player, sure. Was never close to being a top 10 player
back to Shaq, the same Shaq who didn't defend any elite post players even when our PF's were getting killed??? Never defended Webber, Sheed, and the one time he defended Timmy in 03, he got fkn KILLED.
So let's go to the Portland series in 2000...Shaq had a combined 35 pts in games 6 & 7
I actually lived through it. Kobe snapped on Pippen to close out that series. Ended G7 with 25-11-7 with 4 blks
the signature play of Shaq's career is Kobe crossing Pippen, driving through lane & getting fed an easy basket by a 21 yr old who ascended into a superstar
Meanwhile, Shaq always underperformed against SA
nikka stayed in foul trouble against Sac, missing free throw
couldn't even run the offense through Shaq in fourth quarters
Shaq was a dominant post presence, great player but he wasn't getting us over the hump in the tough series
it's not a coincidence when Kobe had off games, we'd lose. Maybe that's why Jalen Rose intentionally injured Kobe in the finals bc that was their only chance to win. Kobe misses g3, we get aired out.
Shaq played on 3 diff teams yet has 1 less ring than Kob, that's not coincidence
I will sum it up for you, Kobe was a better defender, was the lead facilitator for the offense, the closer, ended up with more rings, and was more reliable throughout the 3peat.
YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy
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Basketball got the most loyal stans. Every other goat gets belittled and shytted on to boost up your goat.
OUT PLAYED BY AI????
You dudes really are retarded....
so 35 pts a game vs 24 pts a game not outplaying the opposing SG now
Pretty hard when you not playing against Doug Christie, Antonio Daniels and Derek Anderson like y’all love boosting about when Bryant played against the Spurs though right?
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Kobe stans are becoming like old heads when they talk about MJ. dikkriding and making him to be a mythological individual.
It was a natural progression. Kobe stans have mostly followed in Jordan stans footsteps. Kobe is the one shooting gawd, basketball son and true heir to the original shooting gawd Michael Jordan so he’s definitely a mythological individual that’ll be celebrated long after he’s gone.
Shaq didnt win with penny, and he joined a 53 win Laker team in 96 and didn't win until 2000. stfu.
So what about the countless players, coaches and execs who all speak about Kobe the same way we do?
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Shaq averaged more rebounds than Kobe averaged points the 2000 finals yet they still won
did you watch the series????
Jalen Rose intentionally injured Kobe's ankle in the first qtr of g2. He had 2 pts at that point. So him not finishing the game fckd up his avg. kob missed g3, we got aired out. He returns to play g4, off adrenaline & his team needing him...he makes the signature plays of the series Bc goofy ass Shaq fouls out (like usual). If Kob misses 3 games, Pacers win the series.
But thank god kobe only missed one game & saved us in g4
kobe dealing with Reggie, Jalen, Mark Jackson, Travis Best & Chris Mullings
Shaq only having to with Rik Smits who was no longer a top 10 C
I hate these arguments that provide no context
These brehs never watched anything and you can tell. Thanks for bringing up Rose having to injure Kobe on purpose. Imagine, a 21 year old scrub who did nothing but get carried, yet somehow someway his defenders feel compelled to injure him on purpose to stop him.
And of course, these idiots pretend Game 4 2000 Finals never happened.
Both Shaq and Kobe got their 3peat the hard way starting from 1996
You could practically hear the hearts racing and skipping beats on page one. 
So many legitimate hurt feelings. There's never been an NBA athlete that could conjour up the negative, resentful emotions in grown men that Kobe does.
So many legitimate hurt feelings. There's never been an NBA athlete that could conjour up the negative, resentful emotions in grown men that Kobe does. 
Ignore that Kobe only had 13 points healthy in Game 1....and the Lakers still won.
Ignore that when Kobe only had 2 points and missed half of Game 2....the Lakers still won.
Ignore that Shaq and Reggie were by far the best players in Game 4 (36 for Shaq and 35 for Reggie on great shooting) and that Kobe was just 11-24 for 22 points before he "saved" the Lakers by hitting two jumpers when they already had the lead.
Ignore that Kobe practically lost Game 5 singlehandedly going 4-20 for just 8 points while Reggie and Jalen ran a train on him to the tune of 57 points on just 30 shots.
Ignore that Shaq had to put up a monster 42 points on 19-31 shooting to overcome Kobe's 8-27 outing in Game 6 (while Reggie and Jalen went for 54).
Kobe had ONE mediocre game that whole series and was trash in the rest. And even in the one mediocre game he still got killed by the guy he was guarding. Shaq could have won that series with any league-average guard in Kobe's place - hell, he won Game 2 with Kobe practically not there at all.