Black_Panther_JS
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What the fukk does this even mean?
Kobe played 41 mpg in his prime and barely put up 4 apg
Kobe wasnt on the team to get assist, Kobe doesn't chase stats
Kobe at 22 vs LeBron at 22
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Kobe wasnt on the team to get assist, Kobe doesn't chase stats
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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@The Dankster you want to pull up the play by play for the month he averaged 40 and started hijacking the laker offense to pad his scoring late in games and started costing them games? How about the play by play for the 2003 and 2004 playoffs? For fukks sake, Kobe himself has said that late in games he wasn't looking to pass the ball, only to get points for himself.
Lebron known as a passer and already passed Kobe in playoff scoring
Will pass him in all time points when it's all said and done too
Say kobe doesn't chase stats, but ignore the fact the he played 20 years to try and beat Kareem's record and even admitted as much
FunkDoc1112
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Or his 61 point game where he pretty much spent the entire 4th quarter drawing fouls so he could free throw his way to the MSG record
Damn Bean stans were getting that work in this thread and I actually think this was one of the years he was actually the better player.
Only thing that was missing was that autistic fakkit @Stack Money in here getting his wig peeled back.
The hilarious part is Kobe had a higher usage rate and lower assist rate than Bron despite playing with Shaq. Yet nikkas who don't know the game(or never played) are talking about how Kobe had to "share" the ball with Shaq while claiming Lebron hogged the ball more on his team because he didn't have a Shaq type player. When the actual stats and the film shows that Bron was playing unselfish team ball and giving up the rock to everyone on the court.
Think about that, Lebron didn't even have a Shaq on his roster yet he still didn't hold the ball as long or shoot as often as Kobe did
Only thing that was missing was that autistic fakkit @Stack Money in here getting his wig peeled back.
The hilarious part is Kobe had a higher usage rate and lower assist rate than Bron despite playing with Shaq. Yet nikkas who don't know the game(or never played) are talking about how Kobe had to "share" the ball with Shaq while claiming Lebron hogged the ball more on his team because he didn't have a Shaq type player. When the actual stats and the film shows that Bron was playing unselfish team ball and giving up the rock to everyone on the court.
Think about that, Lebron didn't even have a Shaq on his roster yet he still didn't hold the ball as long or shoot as often as Kobe did
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FunkDoc1112
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Stop this shyt, man
How about this then. 5-2 >>> 3-5. Tangible enough for you?
The reason players opinions are important is because sports is highly subjective. Other than wins and losses which are subject to many other factors than an individuals greatness, there is little in terms of objective truth.
I could say the same for LeBron. Their fallback is always stats. Something that is centered around what kind of system you play in, the scheme, and the teammates around you. We see it in every sport. When you run different systems you get different stats. Now does running an air raid scheme make you a better passer than someone who runs a pro style offense? Most people who know the game know that's not the case.
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Stop this shyt, man
Go and look back over those rosters. Most were nothing before or after Kobe. The few quality players were average to above average.
Kobe only played with one other all-star during that 3 year finals run. Pau Gasol. A guy who before he teammed up with Kobe was a 1-time All-Star who had never won a playoff game.
Pau Gasol before Kobe was less thought of than Chris Bosh and Kevin Love. 2 guys that were 3rd options on LeBron's championship teams. A strong argument could be made that Kobe's #2 was worse than LeBron's #3. And at the very least Gasol was equivalent to Bosh and Love.
Really? 5-2 vs 3-5? Cause they pretty much avoid this fact like the plague. All they do is make excuses.
LeBron stans have only one thing going for them. Individual Stats. So that is all they harp on. Something that everyone who plays sports knows is more reflective of the system and scheme you play in than your ability in most cases. They're the type of guys who will claim the air raid Washington State QB is better than a guy who runs a pro-style offense in Florida State because he has better numbers.
I'm just more true to the actual nature of sports which is actually watching the games and analyzing the players that way versus thinking that the box score somehow tells you more.
There is a reason NFL and NBA talent evaluators look at TAPE to judge prospects when they are drafting. They don't just look up the stats and make decisions based on that. They watch the TAPE.
Eye Test >>> Box score
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79 points in 1 quarter
Breh, NO ONE else has ever been able to accomplish it on that stage before. It's hilarious of you to just blow it off like it's nothing.
That just speaks to Bron's greatness. nikka averages a triple fukkin double in the Finals and it's nothing because we've come to expect that sort of greatness.
And yet the only number anyone remembers is 5-2 >>> 3-5.
LeBron = Payton Manning of the NBA
Kobe = Tom Brady of the NBA
No one calls Peyton Manning the GOAT despite his superior numbers to just about anyone that has ever played the position. But people say that about Brady. Why?
Cause at the end of the day the only number people remember is the number of rings you win.
WTF IS THIS BULLshyt?
God some of yall are so dumb. This is why watching games is vital.
Mutombo was never a great interior post defender. Especially against a physical freak like Shaq. Mutombo was a rim protector. He won defensive player of the year because he blocked a lot of shots from guys who penetrated to the basket. Not because he was some incredible low post defender.
Mutombo was a skinny big who Shaq outweighed by 50-60 pounds. Shaq's dominance that series was no surprise.
If you actually bothered to watch those highlights you'd see several plays where LeBron outplays Kobe in the clutch. Like LeBron hitting the dagger in Kobe's grill in the '08 game.
My point is you're making a shytty ass case by using 1 or 2 games as the lynchpin of your argument when I can pull up games where the opposite happens. And then we'll just be arguing in circles.
Not only that but you're using inexperienced 21 year-old LeBron to make your point
Cherry picking.
I mentioned that 2008 game weeks ago. That is practically the only game in LeBron's career where he had success against Kobe when they matched up ONE on ONE. Typically LeBron's success against the Lakers like most other teams come from fast break points and pick n rolls. He rarely goes one on one. And obviously rarely ever tried to go at Kobe one on one.