KOBE admitting he should pass more..D'antoni finaly happy with Kobe.

jfkennedy

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You goddamn idiot. Why don't you compare the records PRIOR TO the 14 assist games?

Prior to the Utah game, Kobe was averaging LESS than 5.6 assists right? So please compare the Lakers overall January record with the December record.

YOu are actually saying there is a direct correlation between kobe's assists and the lakers wins.

Nah, I'm disputing it.

I mean, why else would someone make a thread about Kobe's assists and him playing the right way? If he wasn't averaging 5 assists and they were still winning I seriously doubt that this thread would've been made.

When someone gets technical and presents to me the number of passes Kobe makes that others convert for baskets and contrasts them with earlier games then I'll chill.

nah they only took 74 shots... but shot 55% from the field... that was definitely the passing..

but if they win 5 in a row, expect the teams to converge on Kobe and trap him at the pass..


then we will get to see if they can improve the Defense

His passing will def. give them easier looks. They convert, then they're good. That, and commit less turnovers, which is really their Achilles' heel since they're too slow to get back on defense.

Will Kobe passing more help? Of course. So will Pau being more aggressive, Nash taking the open shots he has, Dwight hitting ft's, etc.
 

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Kobe Bryant ✔ @kobebryant

“@ImJustSam_: @kobebryant you should pass more often bro”u know what? In this situation, I think u r 100% right


Kobe Playing ‘The Right Way’ « NBA.com | Hang Time Blog

and i bet even hearing it from the horse's mouth.. mouth


"yeah but... its the situation" :skip:

this thread shows why kobe fans are the most intelligent group of basketball fans

kobe fans been telling you dudes forever that kobe is unstoppable when he plays the right way

kobe is just so good that he has to troll to keep the game fun

dude takes (and i quote jeff van gundy) "5-6 unmakeable shots per game for no reason" and yet his efficiency is still comparable to your favorite players

if kobe played the right way he has no peers, just sons
 

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It's not like his teammates miss "a few shots in a row", you act like these dudes are sharpshooters that go through streaks where they miss. No, these are dudes who shoot criminally low %'s.

6 players on the roster shoot below 40%.
Metta is at 41%.
Jordan Hill/Dwight are post players who shoot near 50%, which is to be expected. 'Cept Dwight has no post-moves.
Pau is at 44%.
Jamison at 45%, but 30% from 3.

6/14 shoot below 40%. HALF OF THE LINEUP.

Yah, have faith Kobe. They'll hit those shots. Mhm.

What percentage do you think Kobe shoots when he's taking contested perimeter shots? I'd say it's probably somewhere in the 30's. If he never loses faith in that bullshyt, why should he lose faith in the passes that get high percentage open looks for other dudes?
 

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this thread shows why kobe fans are the most intelligent group of basketball fans

kobe fans been telling you dudes forever that kobe is unstoppable when he plays the right way

kobe is just so good that he has to troll to keep the game fun

dude takes (and i quote jeff van gundy) "5-6 unmakeable shots per game for no reason" and yet his efficiency is still comparable to your favorite players

if kobe played the right way he has no peers, just sons

:whoa:

i Negate your trollrorism

:wtf:
 

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What percentage do you think Kobe shoots when he's taking contested perimeter shots? I'd say it's probably somewhere in the 30's. If he never loses faith in that bullshyt, why should he lose faith in the passes that get high percentage open looks for other dudes?

Reword this for me please, im not sure what youre asking

Kobe shoots impossible shots to challenge himself
 

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Reword this for me please, im not sure what youre asking

Kobe shoots impossible shots to challenge himself

:russ:


He's just ignorant. If he was a poker player, he'd go all in on every hand whether he had pocket aces or a 2-7 offsuit.
 

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He's just ignorant. If he was a poker player, he'd go all in on every hand whether he had pocket aces or a 2-7 offsuit.

When youre so good that the game isnt fun you gotta spice it up

Everybody on here is normal so none of us can relate to being so good at something that its boring

Actually we can relate. When i play nba 2k13 im not gonna put in codes and play on the rookie difficiltt, its too easy and thats no fun so i play on hall of fame.

Kobe playing "the right way" is like rookie difficulty for kobe. That shyt is boring so i dont even blame him if he decided to go back to chucking and give himself a challenge
 

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What percentage do you think Kobe shoots when he's taking contested perimeter shots? I'd say it's probably somewhere in the 30's. If he never loses faith in that bullshyt, why should he lose faith in the passes that get high percentage open looks for other dudes?

That's what he does, though.

I immensely love the fact he didn't attempt a 3 the past two games, you just don't know ... but I also recognize that that's part of his game. So I don't have faith he won't take contested 3's. I accept that he will at times. I mean, he hit a deep 2 over Kevin Durant yesterday, that's another low percentage shot, but he hit it. It's what Kobe does.

Laker fans love how Kobe's playing, and that + other players stepping up ('cause Jamison was not playing yesterday how he was the whole season :upsetfavre:) equals good things.

But these threads are annoying, and just small jabs at Kobe for really no reason. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
 

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Nah, I'm disputing it.

I mean, why else would someone make a thread about Kobe's assists and him playing the right way? If he wasn't averaging 5 assists and they were still winning I seriously doubt that this thread would've been made.

When someone gets technical and presents to me the number of passes Kobe makes that others convert for baskets and contrasts them with earlier games then I'll chill.

I don't know how old you are or your education level, but nobody should be this stupid. Ignoring the previously posted stats regarding the Lakers winning more when Kobe gets more assists, the question is the relevance of comparing January assist numbers to December assists numbers.

YOU, SPECIFICALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BROUGHT UP THE COMPARISON BETWEEN JANUARY AND DECEMBER.

First you said Kobe was averaging 5.6 assists during both months. SO i pointed out the team was losing heavily in both months.

Then you said Kobe's January numbers were inflated because of his 14 assist games and that his assists were actually lower in January than December.

So I pointed out that the Lakers were losing more in January than December.

Think this one through before responding.
 

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I don't know how old you are or your education level, but nobody should be this stupid. Ignoring the previously posted stats regarding the Lakers winning more when Kobe gets more assists, the question is the relevance of comparing January assist numbers to December assists numbers.

YOU, SPECIFICALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BROUGHT UP THE COMPARISON BETWEEN JANUARY AND DECEMBER.

First you said Kobe was averaging 5.6 assists during both months. SO i pointed out the team was losing heavily in both months.

Then you said Kobe's January numbers were inflated because of his 14 assist games and that his assists were actually lower in January than December.

So I pointed out that the Lakers were losing more in January than December.

Think this one through before responding.

I compared Jan/Dec numbers because numerous people made comments about him as if he JUST started passing. I'll gladly admit they had a better record in December than January. And I was wrong, he averaged 4.6 assists in December. 5.6 was in November. They were 7-7 in Dec., and 8-6 in November. Neither were records to write home about (though yes, I agree, they were substantially worse before the Utah game).

The dumb part about your argument is I'm not even disputing the overall effect that it's better for the team, but that it's the reason they're winning. It's one of the reasons. Semantics. You mention they were losing more in Jan/Dec as if there aren't more things to take into account besides just his passing. THAT IS MY MAIN POINT THAT YOU CANNOT SEEM TO GET. There are more things to take into account. Do you not agree?

Kobe had two 7 assist games this month, they lost those games. Lost a couple of 5 assist games. Had an 8-assist game earlier this season they lost to SA, 7-assist game they lost to OKC. So if we're basically going to say he has to get 14 assists for them to win, then :whew:.
 

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That's what he does, though.

I immensely love the fact he didn't attempt a 3 the past two games, you just don't know ... but I also recognize that that's part of his game. So I don't have faith he won't take contested 3's. I accept that he will at times. I mean, he hit a deep 2 over Kevin Durant yesterday, that's another low percentage shot, but he hit it. It's what Kobe does.

Laker fans love how Kobe's playing, and that + other players stepping up ('cause Jamison was not playing yesterday how he was the whole season :upsetfavre:) equals good things.

But these threads are annoying, and just small jabs at Kobe for really no reason. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

He is not damned if he plays this way. He is damned because this type of play is not something he can commit to long term and he is going to revert back to his previous ways. Kobe fans are always saying how assists are just happenstance and that Kobe doesn't have the luxury of teammates that shoot 100% from the field like all of the other supporting casts.
 

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The dumb part about your argument is I'm not even disputing the overall effect that it's better for the team, but that it's the reason they're winning. It's one of the reasons. Semantics. You mention they were losing more in Jan/Dec as if there aren't more things to take into account besides just his passing. THAT IS MY MAIN POINT THAT YOU CANNOT SEEM TO GET. There are more things to take into account. Do you not agree?

Actually, we were not discussing causation, only correlation. Your attempt to show that there was no CORRELATION because of the November/January break down was incorrect.

As for CAUSATION, you are correct. IT's a chicken and egg argument :manny:
 
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