what does china have politically that africa lack?This broad keeps talking about blind faith and pedestals when no one is even on all that. nikkas are just getting money. wtf.
you think the chinese trust or put the U.S on a pedestal when they opened their borders and took over americas manual labor? no. China needed the work, and the U.S needed the cheap labor, it was mutual. Doesnt mean any had faith in each other or any of that nonsense. What a nation does with the money is on them.
Kenyan artist Michael Soi upsets Chinese delegation with his art work.
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Tommy Knocks
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That's actually how africa fell into the dark ages. Arabs and cacs had the oceans conquered and we're able to completely isolate the non sand cac parts of africa from trade.
Nope, I can't blame them at all because as an African I have the same reservations. With that said information moves at a much faster pace these days and where African dictatorship thrived on the ignorance of the public, it's harder to count on people's ignorance these days. A lot more independent voices ring loud these days because of the internet, and if the north Africans learned to make use of that advantage (for the arab spring) I don't see why the rest of Africa can't either.
For sure anything is possible, and history may yet repeat itself if we're not careful. But we've got the truth closer to our eyes and ears than our ancestor's ever dreamed of having. We've basically got no excuses to not protect ourselves.
Make sure you check out some of his other art pieces.
He would totally fit in here at the Coli.
http://www.afroart.us/store/c10/Michael_Soi.html
Thanks. Those prices are gonna crack my pockets but I'm gonna support him and other black / african artists
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The thing about Africa is that its natural resources are among the richest in the world. Now yall seem extremely intent on keeping it for yourselves.
What will you do with it? Rare earth metals and mineral ore don't build buildings or airports, or feed homes. Crude oil may fuel industry and create plastics, but that's inevitably going to run out. If you maintain a stranglehold on your own resources they're just going to chill in the ground until they decay. Or you could just create massive stockpiles of them and trade them between yourselves, and go back to using gold as currency.
The point is, the world needs to be connected to advance. If one man in a team doesn't play neither he or the team benefits. Now if he decides to play, it is up to HIM to negotiate the terms.
I agree...that is not what I am saying. What I am talking about is different than what you are saying...africans need to trade but trade in a way that is mutually beneficial.
those questions werw not related to the topic but for you to assess my intelligence. So no I won't answer them!
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Tommy Knocks
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yes they were. I asked who did they invade, what wars did they start (which does not pertain to their land).
I also asked, who the fukk should africa trade with then and how? since they are doing it wrong and you know it all.
I also asked you if china opening up its borders to the U.S was a mistake and if china treated that alliance cautiously....
did it mean china had full faith that america was its savior?
What's your country?
You really are stupid....China got a foothold because they focused on infrastructure, the greatest need for many African countries. Western countries and their agencies had stopped focusing on those things a long time ago. They preferred to have interventions at a micro level, some village project here and there and some donation of food (which killed local farmers) and those type of interventions. China was at a similar level to many of those countries barely 3 decades back so they understand the game better than mostly Western institutions that believe you can import ideas suited to developed economies like tax cuts, privatization etc. Resources are only as valuable as what people are willing to pay for, and the big buyer these days of those commodity is China. It could be argued that without its rise those commodities like iron ore,copper,steel etc wouldn't be as valuable. African nations are going to trade and because of their deficiencies have to look for external support for many of the big projects. The view of Africa politically is different in China compared to the US for example. In the US the narrative is driven by a helpless continent that needs to be helped, it wasn't even a big foreign policy area for the country.For instance when they had the summit with those leaders they barely had much African press and the press that did show up preferred to ask Obama about other domestic issues.
There are many sides to the China-Africa story but for the most part the countries that have managed to get good deals with them have made out fine.Zambia's copper industry was virtually dead before China and they have revived it after previous owners bolted. The Chinese built the railway between Zambia and Tanzania in the 70s to help landlocked Southern African countries reduce dependence on Apartheid SA and its sponsored bandits in the region, this was when the West was complicit in supporting Apartheid SA. They were also training freedom fighters in then Rhodesia while the West again was going through the motions in condemning those bad actors, they were on hand to establish lines of credit to Angola after the civil war ended with the formerly Western sponsored Savimbi. China established goodwill in parts of Africa way before it became a topical issue in the Western press. And its not like African countries have not tried the alternative of IMF/WB which failed spectacularly, its not only African countries but Latin American countries where China has been gaining a big foothold loaning even bigger amounts to Argentina and Venezuela than any single African country that we never get to read about in the same way the Africa-China story is told.
There are many sides to the China-Africa story but for the most part the countries that have managed to get good deals with them have made out fine.Zambia's copper industry was virtually dead before China and they have revived it after previous owners bolted. The Chinese built the railway between Zambia and Tanzania in the 70s to help landlocked Southern African countries reduce dependence on Apartheid SA and its sponsored bandits in the region, this was when the West was complicit in supporting Apartheid SA. They were also training freedom fighters in then Rhodesia while the West again was going through the motions in condemning those bad actors, they were on hand to establish lines of credit to Angola after the civil war ended with the formerly Western sponsored Savimbi. China established goodwill in parts of Africa way before it became a topical issue in the Western press. And its not like African countries have not tried the alternative of IMF/WB which failed spectacularly, its not only African countries but Latin American countries where China has been gaining a big foothold loaning even bigger amounts to Argentina and Venezuela than any single African country that we never get to read about in the same way the Africa-China story is told.
Well said!
I sorry is that what has bern said in ths thread? You are too busy getting on your soapbox that you don't hear what is being said in this thread.
Lol...you are not as smart as you claim to be. Nowhere have I emphasized war yet you keep referring to it.Every single one was brought to them.
The only war that shaped current day china is a civil war, so I dont even know what that has to do with outside interference. you cant list ONE war the chinese have started. Not a single one.
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