Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly | (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

[Woodwerkz]

Real shyt. See i'm 35. Not only am i 35,I listen to music 8+ hours a day while i'm working. All the vintage classics,or just shyt i like from before my life on up to current,I LISTEN TO.
So when people act like GKMC is deep,it';s comical to me. Why because i've heard younger (at the time) rappers spit deeper more believable shyt.
I cant get hyped over GKMC,when 2pac dropped matw at 23. Scarface dropped The diary at 23. etc.
I'm not impressed. I also remember the way real classics impacted the community.
That shyt was undeniable.
I remember AEOM dropping and every car in the school parking lot bumping various songs from it.
I remember going to the strip mall and hearing various songs blaring from cars when Biggie's LAD dropped.
I remember how much you'd hear stillmatic and blueprint when they dropped.
I know when nikkas pretending.
There's is TOO mUCH inconsistent shyt going on from kdot ,for me to believe he's that nikka.
And really popping like that

Yet you are impressed with this cat though

who moan raps 85% of the time about absolutely nothing.

You shouldn't have even posted that stuff above considering you shyt on Kendrick for at least respecting the craft and trying to bring awareness and a message to people not in an era where it's all about disposable music. The reason why it's considered as such. GKMC wasn't a fast riser...he gained those fans slowly and organically. Back then...the West was on top...Pac was fresh out of jail, signed to Death Row at it's height [with Dre and Snoop still there], and was surrounded in controversy. He could have dropped 17 tracks of different versions of California love and still went platinum.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

so you remember when

apparently classic is a VERY subjective definition for you all because people of this generation will remember bytch dont kill my vibe, swimming pools, etc

same as for the drake fans that will remember all the hit songs he got that are blaring from cars and bumping in the school parking lot.

the only point you are making is that this and basically everything after your 20s cant be a classic because you dont have fond memories of it with your peers

you all might want to better define classic because if you are talking about impact on the culture he has had an impact. and if you want to take it further everything drake has dropped is a classic because its been blared from cars and bumped in school parking lots, has internet memes, etc

No,you're wrong. See drake songs really were on hit,coming out whips and in clubs. Kendrick was many levels below drake,but they're pretending he's neck and neck with him. Big difference

 

[No1]

so you remember when

apparently classic is a VERY subjective definition for you all because people of this generation will remember bytch dont kill my vibe, swimming pools, etc

same as for the drake fans that will remember all the hit songs he got that are blaring from cars and bumping in the school parking lot.

the only point you are making is that this and basically everything after your 20s cant be a classic because you dont have fond memories of it with your peers

you all might want to better define classic because if you are talking about impact on the culture he has had an impact. and if you want to take it further everything drake has dropped is a classic because its been blared from cars and bumped in school parking lots, has internet memes, etc

I cannot speak on people older than me. But I'm only 25. I have no hate for the younger guys and root for them. They are my age group. Heck, I even want Sean to win and this board hates him for some reason. bytch Don't Kill My Vibe and Money Trees will never be played out. Sing About Me was the best song of 2012. I never said what some of these guys were saying. What they are trying to get at is that, his impact seems manufactured and forced. They are used to people on the street that they interact with confirming critical acclaim. Take Care is not a classic either because it has some questionable tracks. None of these dudes are dropping albums that I can see being hailed classic 10 years from now. It's like they want to be rewarded for being better than these other basic nikkas and a having a "message". This nikka Cole said make room for new legends and then dropped Born Sinner--far from classic. And then FHD--again far from classic but was hailed as 5 out 5 on here. This is not anti-Kendrick, this is anti-settling. We have reached a point where we have lowered the bar....but we don't acknowledge it when Kendrick is involved.

 

[Shadow King]

More like total.

Means I heard it being bumped more at various places and have people in real life ask me about it.
None of the singles went plat,while YG has a plat and double plat single.
When numbers dont match,i peep game.
There's a shytload of albums that dont sell well but the singles do well.
Kdot is the only one this doesnt apply to. I wonder why.
His album sales reflect a super star,but all his other numbers dont reflect that. Hmm
Still hasnt done a big tour in his own right,doesnt have alot of likes on facebook (in comparison to other current platinum album artists)
Doesnt have alot of twitter followers in comparison to others with similar album sales
And his singles dont sell like other current plat artists. Hmm
Now one could say "GKMC is a critically acclaimed album and people bypassed the singles but still copped the album bla bla bla"
SO lets take another critically acclaimed album from recent years MBDTF.
This album allegedly sold a lil less than kendrick but he has 2 platinum singles and a triple plat single for that album.
shyt aint matching up

Haven't the past 4 years taught anything about singles vs albums?

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yet you are impressed with this cat though

who moan raps 85% of the time about absolutely nothing.

You shouldn't have even posted that stuff above considering you shyt on Kendrick for at least respecting the craft and trying to bring awareness and a message to people not in an era where it's all about disposable music. The reason why it's considered as such. GKMC wasn't a fast riser...he gained those fans slowly and organically. Back then...the West was on top...Pac was fresh out of jail, signed to Death Row at it's height [with Dre and Snoop still there], and was surrounded in controversy. He could have dropped 17 tracks of different versions of California love and still went platinum.

I dont love drake. I feel him and kendrick were handed a great roll out and big promo. But i feel drake actually pulled it off and backed up the hype with hit records.
I really went places and kept hearing his shyt. Rather it was features where he helped nikkas sell records or his own hit records. Kendrick i dont see that. Kendrick cant tour like the names his sales parallel him next to.
His singles didnt hit like drake,not even close. It's artist whom didnt remotely get kendrick's push,yet were hotter out here than he was and singles were waaaaaaay bigger.
His highest youtube vid is like 65 mil,which is ok.
But dudes like yg and big sean got bigger shyt than that while there not even considered on his level,but people compare him to drake when he's not up there yet.

 

[jwinfield]

Now one could say "GKMC is a critically acclaimed album and people bypassed the singles but still copped the album bla bla bla"
SO lets take another critically acclaimed album from recent years MBDTF.
This album allegedly sold a lil less than kendrick but he has 2 platinum singles and a triple plat single for that album.
shyt aint matching up

And how many singles has Forest Hill Drive sold with the album being a little less than plat

Iggy has a plat single, a 5x plat single, a 2x plat single and a gold single, and her album might not even be gold yet?

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Haven't the past 4 years taught anything about singles vs albums?

what do you mean

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

And how many singles has Forest Hill Drive sold with the album being a little less than plat

Iggy has a plat single, a 5x plat single, a 2x plat single and a gold single, and her album might not even be gold yet?

Name me a current platinum album with zero platinum singles

 

[GoldenGlove]

Good kid, mad city was nothing but skits. It was an overrated and superficial mess. Just people Kendrick grew up in Compton doesn't make him deep by any means.

 

[Shadow King]

what do you mean

All these nikkas moving singles is pretty much only moving singles. Outside of Drake and Nicki who is selling 2 million singles per song and a million albums?

 

[Stone]

Name me a current platinum album with zero platinum singles

"Swimming pools" went plat two years ago though

 

[billiam bobigan]

This thread turned into pure hyperbole when talking about gkmc. I love the album. I can put it on right now and listen to it start to finish but to consider it possibly the greatest album of our lifetime is laughable . Talkin bout possibly being the next prince . Why can't we let him come out with more than 1 major studio album before we put him in the music hall of fame.


At the same time, some cats that hear comments like "next prince" can't just ignore these fairy tales. They gotta go opposite. Talkin bout how overrated the album is. yall need to come back to reality.

If you like music where everybody die or everybody got cartel connects then of course you not gonna like the album. shytting on an album in a genre that doesn't interest you is like watching a documentary on food and calling it garbage cuz it didn't have enough action in it. You want action, watch a action movie.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

"Swimming pools" went plat two years ago though

sources say gold

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

All these nikkas moving singles is pretty much only moving singles. Outside of Drake and Nicki who is selling 2 million singles per song and a million albums?

outside of kendrick whom has a plat album and gold singles?

 

[Stone]

sources say gold

Google searches say platinum for me