Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly | (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

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Your analogy does not work. If MJ played with a bunch of HS kids we would never know how great he was if he decided to not go to the NBA. I'm sorry, but it wasn't just me when that album dropped. It was this thing where I and a lot of people on here who would usually side with people musically were entirely confused as to why that shyt was hyped the way it was. I literally have never been so far off from popular opinion in my life. The type of people I meet that think that shyt is classic are (a) hipster writers on places like pitchfork, (b) people who think it was the deepest thing they ever heard, (c) people who have no context of hip hop history or (d) people who like hip hop with a "message" and have not heard this type of album in a long time ("conscious people").

That's just my experience with 95% of the people who hyped this album. I was on college campuses with my cousin watching people zone out to this shyt like it was something they had never heard before, and we were flabbergasted. It started to feel like this album being a classic was forced, and I bought it only because I was told it was a classic. Even now, the entire industry pushed that "i" track while most thought it was "blah." No matter what he does people act like it is the greatest thing ever. (That is probably the root of the backlash). GKMC will go down as a classic, but it does not feel as organic as others. But I can see how it is relatable. His next album will be hailed as the year's best too regardless of the quality...he's just that guy right now. I'll never get it.
It's kinda like this for me too. Although I DO understand why people love GKMC because I do too but people are doing a lil too much.

The hype for him is causing a backlash and it's reasonable. I've seen the same thing happen with Lupe & even he was more talented than K.Dot
 

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Your analogy does not work. If MJ played with a bunch of HS kids we would never know how great he was if he decided to not go to the NBA. I'm sorry, but it wasn't just me when that album dropped. It was this thing where I and a lot of people on here who would usually side with people musically were entirely confused as to why that shyt was hyped the way it was. I literally have never been so far off from popular opinion in my life. The type of people I meet that think that shyt is classic are (a) hipster writers on places like pitchfork, (b) people who think it was the deepest thing they ever heard, (c) people who have no context of hip hop history or (d) people who like hip hop with a "message" and have not heard this type of album in a long time ("conscious people").

That's just my experience with 95% of the people who hyped this album. I was on college campuses with my cousin watching people zone out to this shyt like it was something they had never heard before, and we were flabbergasted. It started to feel like this album being a classic was forced, and I bought it only because I was told it was a classic. Even now, the entire industry pushed that "i" track while most thought it was "blah." No matter what he does people act like it is the greatest thing ever. (That is probably the root of the backlash). GKMC will go down as a classic, but it does not feel as organic as others. But I can see how it is relatable. His next album will be hailed as the year's best too regardless of the quality...he's just that guy right now. I'll never get it.
Real shyt. See i'm 35. Not only am i 35,I listen to music 8+ hours a day while i'm working. All the vintage classics,or just shyt i like from before my life on up to current,I LISTEN TO.
So when people act like GKMC is deep,it';s comical to me. Why because i've heard younger (at the time) rappers spit deeper more believable shyt.
I cant get hyped over GKMC,when 2pac dropped matw at 23. Scarface dropped The diary at 23. etc.
I'm not impressed. I also remember the way real classics impacted the community.
That shyt was undeniable.
I remember AEOM dropping and every car in the school parking lot bumping various songs from it.
I remember going to the strip mall and hearing various songs blaring from cars when Biggie's LAD dropped.
I remember how much you'd hear stillmatic and blueprint when they dropped.
I know when nikkas pretending.
There's is TOO mUCH inconsistent shyt going on from kdot ,for me to believe he's that nikka.
And really popping like that
 

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tbh I don't think mbdtf & gkmc will be topped any time soon. These 2 albums wil lbe hailed as the 2 greatest bodies of work of our generation, and for legitimate reasons
 

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george clinton is right, kendrick is definitely the only artist of our time with the musical knowledge to become the next Prince
 

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tbh I don't think mbdtf & gkmc will be topped any time soon. These 2 albums wil lbe hailed as the 2 greatest bodies of work of our generation, and for legitimate reasons

george clinton is right, kendrick is definitely the only artist of our time with the musical knowledge to become the next Prince
Cot dam bre relax.:what:
 

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Good kid, mad city was nothing but skits. It was an overrated and superficial mess. Just people Kendrick grew up in Compton doesn't make him deep by any means.
 

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Your analogy does not work. If MJ played with a bunch of HS kids we would never know how great he was if he decided to not go to the NBA. I'm sorry, but it wasn't just me when that album dropped. It was this thing where I and a lot of people on here who would usually side with people musically were entirely confused as to why that shyt was hyped the way it was. I literally have never been so far off from popular opinion in my life. The type of people I meet that think that shyt is classic are (a) hipster writers on places like pitchfork, (b) people who think it was the deepest thing they ever heard, (c) people who have no context of hip hop history or (d) people who like hip hop with a "message" and have not heard this type of album in a long time ("conscious people").

That's just my experience with 95% of the people who hyped this album. I was on college campuses with my cousin watching people zone out to this shyt like it was something they had never heard before, and we were flabbergasted. It started to feel like this album being a classic was forced, and I bought it only because I was told it was a classic. Even now, the entire industry pushed that "i" track while most thought it was "blah." No matter what he does people act like it is the greatest thing ever. (That is probably the root of the backlash). GKMC will go down as a classic, but it does not feel as organic as others. But I can see how it is relatable. His next album will be hailed as the year's best too regardless of the quality...he's just that guy right now. I'll never get it.

LOL. As Morpheus famously said, "Welcome... to the real world."

I could have told you this 4 years ago. Kendrick Lamar is your latest pop rapper marketed as hip hop savior being crammed down people's throats. It's way too obvious.

Real shyt. See i'm 35. Not only am i 35,I listen to music 8+ hours a day while i'm working. All the vintage classics,or just shyt i like from before my life on up to current,I LISTEN TO.
So when people act like GKMC is deep,it';s comical to me. Why because i've heard younger (at the time) rappers spit deeper more believable shyt.
I cant get hyped over GKMC,when 2pac dropped matw at 23. Scarface dropped The diary at 23. etc.
I'm not impressed. I also remember the way real classics impacted the community.
That shyt was undeniable.
I remember AEOM dropping and every car in the school parking lot bumping various songs from it.
I remember going to the strip mall and hearing various songs blaring from cars when Biggie's LAD dropped.
I remember how much you'd hear stillmatic and blueprint when they dropped.
I know when nikkas pretending.
There's is TOO mUCH inconsistent shyt going on from kdot ,for me to believe he's that nikka.
And really popping like that

When you're a man or woman of a certain age, and you've been listening to hip hop long enough, you get an idea for what sticks and what doesn't.

I'll say straight up that nothing Kendrick Lamar has made will stick as a classic. I'm willing to be wrong on that, but I'm calling it as I see it. 10 years from now, few people/no one will look at GKMC seriously. And 10 years is minimum for something to be regarded as classic. 15-20 is better.
 

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Real shyt. See i'm 35. Not only am i 35,I listen to music 8+ hours a day while i'm working. All the vintage classics,or just shyt i like from before my life on up to current,I LISTEN TO.
So when people act like GKMC is deep,it';s comical to me. Why because i've heard younger (at the time) rappers spit deeper more believable shyt.
I cant get hyped over GKMC,when 2pac dropped matw at 23. Scarface dropped The diary at 23. etc.
I'm not impressed. I also remember the way real classics impacted the community.
That shyt was undeniable.
I remember AEOM dropping and every car in the school parking lot bumping various songs from it.
I remember going to the strip mall and hearing various songs blaring from cars when Biggie's LAD dropped.
I remember how much you'd hear stillmatic and blueprint when they dropped.
I know when nikkas pretending.
There's is TOO mUCH inconsistent shyt going on from kdot ,for me to believe he's that nikka.
And really popping like that
so you remember when :ohhh:

apparently classic is a VERY subjective definition for you all because people of this generation will remember bytch dont kill my vibe, swimming pools, etc

same as for the drake fans that will remember all the hit songs he got that are blaring from cars and bumping in the school parking lot.

the only point you are making is that this and basically everything after your 20s cant be a classic because you dont have fond memories of it with your peers :mjlol:

you all might want to better define classic because if you are talking about impact on the culture he has had an impact. and if you want to take it further everything drake has dropped is a classic because its been blared from cars and bumped in school parking lots, has internet memes, etc :mjlol:
 
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