Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)

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theres gotta be a agenda because as a black man we need more songs like this in the culture.
i'm fine with black pride songs, but In no scenario should we be discussing black on black crime w/ white supremacy(police brutality). its fine if he wants to talk about black on black crime but he should have left the hypocrite police brutality line out of it. shyts disgusting and c00nish regardless how he explain it.
 

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how am i going off topic? you said he didnt do what i said, i pointed out how he did....then i elaborated on that more using the interview than the song...my point at the end wasnt talking about kdot specifically, more so what new blacks have been saying...

as for the song: yes, that is what he said...but he wasnt asking the question 'why are we killing us too', he was saying he was a hypocrit for feeling one way while doing the same thing he was feeling that certain way about....which, to me, goes against the 1st and 2nd verses of calling whites out on they shyt, and boils down to some 'black on black crime' type shyt as the payoff to the song....

that's not adding anything to the song, that's taking his words for what they are/what he said and how he said them (the last line in the song, dropping the beat out so you can really hear him clear, etc.) ....and not once did i say he made excuses for trayvon's death...
How does him not wanting to add to more lost black lives go against wut he said about white people in tha 1st and 2nd verses? :wtf:
 

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been saying this, when the music is amazing, every review will say its great. It's undeniable.


 

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i'm fine with black pride songs, but In no scenario should we be discussing black on black crime w/ white supremacy(police brutality). its fine if he wants to talk about black on black crime but he should have left the hypocrite police brutality line out of it. shyts disgusting and c00nish regardless how he explain it.
He does that deliberately, to draw parallel yes

but not for tha reasons yall accusing him of, he's not saying tha reason Trayvon is dead is equal to a gangbanger

he's looking at tha bigger overall picture, you have a oppressive system that is killing you, and you want to rebel against it becuz it is killing you, then why would you do tha same thing it's doing and kill your brother, how dense do you have to be to not understand that?

nowhere did he justify Trayvons death and say it's cool becuz we kill each other all tha time

Instead he's using Trayvons death to inspire blacks to not have ANY black deaths, even so called gangbangers, becuz to Kendrick that's his peers, wut society deems as gang bangers are somebodies brothers, uncles, cousins caught up in tha mix

again you have to view tha song in its proper context, Kendrick rapping it as a banger from Compton to stop tha killing

it's not a song for all blacks or whites to apply to themselves

That's where this whole 50 page argument is rooted in....
 

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I can look at the two issues separately.....thank you very much. Sounds like you have issues with accountability and responsibility which is odd because you shouldn't feel responsible in the first place. We're talking about people who kill other blacks and for some reason, YOU catching feelings. You on some "but look what they did" type shyt right now......"why I'm getting spanked, they did it too" azz nikka. The whole world knows about the injustices with Mike Brown and Trayvon, so that's a corny argument to make. We already know about that. That don't got nothing to do with the fact that we keep killing each other and for some reason you and others in here have problems when we want to shed light on that. Sounds like an accountability issue really. Like you really sound hurt and upset :damn: because I hate the dumb nikkas out here that's killing thousands of us every year. You really upset about that. It's strange. I can tell you never lost anybody out here because you would NEVER be defending them if you did. I have. Fukk all those nikkas that killing people. I hope they die nikka. They the worst of our community. Get mad. Cuz Imma keep saying it.

And this my friends is exactly the type of nonsense shyt like this song inspires.

You are not worth my time:camby:
 

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white supremacy and black on black violence should never be in the same damn sentence. how is this hard to understand :what:
GTFOH with that "belong in the same sentence" bullshyt you used twice already

ain't no place for that childish ignorant shyt if you want to have a proper discussion :camby:
 

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he's looking at tha bigger overall picture, you have a oppressive system that is killing you, and you want to rebel against it becuz it is killing you, then why would you do tha same thing it's doing and kill your brother, how dense do you have to be to not understand that?

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this oppressive system have been killing us for over 700 years. if all the gang bangers stopped killing each other tomorrow it won't stop white folks from blowing our brains out. fukk out of here :camby:

"well if we pulled our pants up" :camby:

"if we spoke well we would get a job!" :camby:

"you should care about black on black crime too!" :camby:
 

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And this my friends is exactly the type of nonsense shyt like this song inspires.

You are not worth my time:camby:

Yea right nikka....

You responded to me 4 times, all of sudden I ain't worth your time. More like you don't have a rebuttal. Have you lost anybody to street violence? Answer that.
 

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this oppressive system have been killing us for over 700 years. if all the gang bangers stopped killing each other tomorrow it won't stop white folks from blowing our brains out. fukk out of here :camby:

"well if we pulled our pants up" :camby:

"if we spoke well we would get a job!" :camby:

"you should care about black on black crime too!" :camby:
Protesting police brutality for decades and that hasn't stopped them from taking more lives

should we stop protesting? :ohhh:

wuts tha point of your stupid ass posts? Other than to talk shyt and hate
 

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this oppressive system have been killing us for over 700 years. if all the gang bangers stopped killing each other tomorrow it won't stop white folks from blowing our brains out. fukk out of here :camby:

"well if we pulled our pants up" :camby:

"if we spoke well we would get a job!" :camby:

"you should care about black on black crime too!" :camby:

Yea you right....might as well keep killing each other :mjpls:
 

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Protesting police brutality for decades and that hasn't stopped them from taking more lives

should have tha protests stop to?

wuts tha point of your stupid ass posts? Other than to talk shyt and hate
protesting doesn't do shyt, there's no money being exchanged in protesting. king c00ndrick offers no solution to the problem, instead offers shock value.
 

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Yea right nikka....

You responded to me 4 times, all of sudden I ain't worth your time. More like you don't have a rebuttal. Have you lost anybody to street violence? Answer that.
That last shyt and this post are beyond the realm of reasonable discourse.

I'm ashamed I gave you the time that I did :snoop:
 

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protesting doesn't do shyt, there's no money being exchanged in protesting. king c00ndrick offers no solution to the problem, instead offers shock value.
Ok so you don't want to protest against police brutality, I coulda swore that's wut your point of tha argument wuz

You don't want kendrick to say stop killing and love yourself


again wuts tha point of your stupid ass posts?
 

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where does he even say this though?....where does he say addressing shyt in our community will make them treat us better?....Somebody tell me, because i'm so confused why people keep inferring this and putting words in the mans mouth...

What about clean your room first so 100% of the focus can be on the house?....make use of the time. How is this not advantageous if you want to achieve a goal?...otherwise it's a stalemate, fighting back and fourth with no resolution.

Say we come to the table unified....it's all on THEM. I feel like then we can get some movement... If you want movement in the right direction.

but that won't MAKE them do shyt...it'll make our fight more potent...

re-read what i said...i never said he said that in the song....i was elaborating on why i felt the way i did about the last line....i gave my thoughts about the line specifically in the point before the last one....

as for the rest of your post: yea, we need to get our shyt together, but that doesnt mean whenever we talk about this, that we always have to say 'we need to get our shyt together first' like that's gonna change how they treat us....one has nothing to do with the other....
 
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