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.Kaypain said:
You don't even know what you're saying. Like I said, you stand switch it up EVERY POST depending on what point you're trying to prove. Jesus fukking Christ.
Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)
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You don't even know what you're saying. Like I said, you stand switch it up EVERY POST depending on what point you're trying to prove. Jesus fukking Christ.
It's great that we can have a song that sparks discussion. The downside, however, is when we pick a part the artist (not the song) because of an agenda. Ever since that article came out, there's been some crusade to paint Kendrick as a c00n. Now this song comes out, and people are flipping one line to support that. This is getting ridiculous. He's discussing something serious here and people want to make a joke and a mockery out of it.
We complain about lack of substance, but when the songs are released, then we get childish. Call a rapper a c00n because you don't agree with what they are saying, yet claim to be Pro-Black while turning up your nose at other Blacks. Then want to act militant, but want act as in being active in activities that actually promote Blackness and awareness outside of a forum.
We complain about lack of substance, but when the songs are released, then we get childish. Call a rapper a c00n because you don't agree with what they are saying, yet claim to be Pro-Black while turning up your nose at other Blacks. Then want to act militant, but want act as in being active in activities that actually promote Blackness and awareness outside of a forum.
but it doesnt because then what is there to discuss
The only reaction to have towards such a thing is empathy
notthing to actually discuss
Kdot's releases have provoked thought because he speaks in a way and about things that can be discussed and debated
Cole's wasnt
Emotion cant be thought provoking..just powerful
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Retired Hoodrat whisperer
I just find it funny that the biggest takeaway from this song is the last verse.
In the first verse he's going at "cacs" necks for poisoning our communities while making a profit from the poison they're peddling,attempting to destroy the little bit of culture we have left,and manipulating the way we perceive ourselves.Even calls them evil.
Second verse he mentions how we've been conditioned to believe that our lives don't matter,we're told that we're irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.Takes a shot a Christianity being used a means to keep us docile and mentally enslaved.We talk about it on the Coli all the time.As soon as a injustice takes place you see Sharpton and ppl of his ilk telling us to pray,we will overcome,Jesus will save us.
I took the third verse as a critique of gang culture,not the black community as a whole.The following lines is the reason I came to that conclusion
Excuse my French but fukk you — no, fukk y'all
That's as blunt as it gets, I know you hate me, don't you?
You hate my people, I can tell cause it's threats when I see you
I can tell cause your ways deceitful
Know I can tell because you're in love with that Desert Eagle
Thinkin' maliciously, he get a chain then you gone bleed him
That's as obvious as it gets,i don't know why people are acting like he's talking about us as a whole,just a segment of our population.And the truth is if you participate in the killing of blacks whether by murder or by selling poison and then wept over the death of Trayvon Martin then you are a hypocrite because you're a part of the problem.He's calling himself a hypocrite,he's calling any gang member who shed a tear or became outraged over the Trayvon Martin/Mike Brown situation a hypocrite.This isn't a "what about black on black crime" line. This song is way deeper than the last bar.
In the first verse he's going at "cacs" necks for poisoning our communities while making a profit from the poison they're peddling,attempting to destroy the little bit of culture we have left,and manipulating the way we perceive ourselves.Even calls them evil.
Second verse he mentions how we've been conditioned to believe that our lives don't matter,we're told that we're irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.Takes a shot a Christianity being used a means to keep us docile and mentally enslaved.We talk about it on the Coli all the time.As soon as a injustice takes place you see Sharpton and ppl of his ilk telling us to pray,we will overcome,Jesus will save us.
I took the third verse as a critique of gang culture,not the black community as a whole.The following lines is the reason I came to that conclusion
Excuse my French but fukk you — no, fukk y'all
That's as blunt as it gets, I know you hate me, don't you?
You hate my people, I can tell cause it's threats when I see you
I can tell cause your ways deceitful
Know I can tell because you're in love with that Desert Eagle
Thinkin' maliciously, he get a chain then you gone bleed him
That's as obvious as it gets,i don't know why people are acting like he's talking about us as a whole,just a segment of our population.And the truth is if you participate in the killing of blacks whether by murder or by selling poison and then wept over the death of Trayvon Martin then you are a hypocrite because you're a part of the problem.He's calling himself a hypocrite,he's calling any gang member who shed a tear or became outraged over the Trayvon Martin/Mike Brown situation a hypocrite.This isn't a "what about black on black crime" line. This song is way deeper than the last bar.
Emotion can provoke thought. At the end of the day we'll end up agreeing to disagree though so let's just stop
Not Crodie
All Star
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Notice how in the "The Blacker The Berry" cover shows a mother breastfeeding two babies
Now with "i" we have two opposing gang members (blood & crip) coming together,
Could this possibly be the two babies/brothers growing up?
The mother raised them as babies, now they look to the streets as their new mother
Lets go back to Section.80 & GKMC...
"You've ever seen a newborn baby kill a grown man"
"as a kid I killed two adults, I'm too advanced"
"If I told you I killed a nikka at 16, would you believe me?
Or see me to be innocent Kendrick you seen in the street"
Now back to the new song...
"Been feeling this way since I was 16, came to my senses"
"So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street?
When gang banging make me kill a nikka blacker than me?
Hypocrite!"
He's saying we need to stop killing our own brothers/people/b]
Notice how "I" is the positive while "TBTB" is the opposite.
Looks familiar? Two brothers who want the same thing, just approached differently.
Also we have the rumored initial track list. Notice the track "Both Sides Of The Story"
This may also coincide with 'Untitled' theme of unity & the fruits of life.
The album's narrative (probably fictional or probably not) involves Kendrick (or whoever's the main character) and his relationship to his brother. I say his brother because as you can tell by the artwork they're both sipping milk together from their mother's breast. They grow up together and one becomes a crip, the other a blood (i artwork). At the climax of the story kendrick ends up shooting his brother thus killing him. This song is definitely somewhere in the beginning of the tracklist while narrative wise taking place at the end of the story; remember how GKMC started off at the middle with Sherane and went all over the place? Expect something similar to that. The track 'Both sides of the story' will involve both kendrick and his brothers views as being from different gangs and how they split from each other to gangbanging. I know all of this sounds cliche but I'm sure this isnt the main part of the story but rather a side story going on in line with the bigger picture.
And before someone tries running up on me saying "the tracklist is fake" I'd like to point out that there are several indications from TBTB and 'i' that there's some kind of war atmosphere being portrayed and it falls in line with the leaked tracklist. I could be wrong bout everything and this could be a huge fukking reach but I'm just thinking out loud (obviously could've been a lot clearer about it but idc)
Notice how in the "The Blacker The Berry" cover shows a mother breastfeeding two babies
Now with "i" we have two opposing gang members (blood & crip) coming together,
Could this possibly be the two babies/brothers growing up?
The mother raised them as babies, now they look to the streets as their new mother
Lets go back to Section.80 & GKMC...
"You've ever seen a newborn baby kill a grown man"
"as a kid I killed two adults, I'm too advanced"
"If I told you I killed a nikka at 16, would you believe me?
Or see me to be innocent Kendrick you seen in the street"
Now back to the new song...
"Been feeling this way since I was 16, came to my senses"
"So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street?
When gang banging make me kill a nikka blacker than me?
Hypocrite!"
He's saying we need to stop killing our own brothers/people/b]
Notice how "I" is the positive while "TBTB" is the opposite.
Looks familiar? Two brothers who want the same thing, just approached differently.
Also we have the rumored initial track list. Notice the track "Both Sides Of The Story"
This may also coincide with 'Untitled' theme of unity & the fruits of life.
The album's narrative (probably fictional or probably not) involves Kendrick (or whoever's the main character) and his relationship to his brother. I say his brother because as you can tell by the artwork they're both sipping milk together from their mother's breast. They grow up together and one becomes a crip, the other a blood (i artwork). At the climax of the story kendrick ends up shooting his brother thus killing him. This song is definitely somewhere in the beginning of the tracklist while narrative wise taking place at the end of the story; remember how GKMC started off at the middle with Sherane and went all over the place? Expect something similar to that. The track 'Both sides of the story' will involve both kendrick and his brothers views as being from different gangs and how they split from each other to gangbanging. I know all of this sounds cliche but I'm sure this isnt the main part of the story but rather a side story going on in line with the bigger picture.
And before someone tries running up on me saying "the tracklist is fake" I'd like to point out that there are several indications from TBTB and 'i' that there's some kind of war atmosphere being portrayed and it falls in line with the leaked tracklist. I could be wrong bout everything and this could be a huge fukking reach but I'm just thinking out loud (obviously could've been a lot clearer about it but idc)
breh of course emotions can provoke thought....im not even gonna get into a talk about this but you are way far removed from an actual discussion right now
I get the jest of the song, just think he went overboard with that last line.
My reactions for the 1st 2 verses was like this...
...then that last line came I was like
WheresWallace
Superstar
That is YOUR interpretation...this interpretation is still damaging for multiple reasons.
Reason 1: Most crime is intra-racial. So chastising criminals under the guise of racial pride is a wasted effort.
Reason 2: How many people out in them streets protesting were criminals (possibly some) but I would say the majority were everyday people like you and me. So how does Kendrick's interpretation apply to them?
Reason 3: He gives people (outside the community) the impression that what was done to spark the protests don't deserve the outrage that it received.
I could go on and on...I could mention how the victims (Trayvon, Mike Brown, ect.) weren't criminals either so how does Kendrick's statement apply to them? It's unfair to let their deaths be dismissed as "black people just don't know any better" when its far more serious than that.
Man, Im tired of typing. I'll just say that Kendrick let me down breh.
How does that make it hypocritical, they doing life, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN IS FREE, of COURSE THEY MAD
The whole point of Trayvon is that George Zimmerman GOT AWAY FREE
The whole point is that a Black life lost is still a life lost. It shouldn't matter at whose hand they died. The judicial system is still set up to where if a Black person is killed:
1) the murderer walks free (in most cases this occurs when the murderer is non-Black)
2) the murderer serves time, but it's still a light sentence for murder (this often occurs when the murderer is Black)
3) the victim is made out to be the aggressor
"Why did I weep when Trayon Martin was in the street when gang bangin made me kill a nikka blacker than me, hypocrite!"
Gtfoh with that shyt
it's called soft c00ning.
new age c00ns are slicker than how old c00ns used to do it........... they mix it up with pro black shyt, and conscious shyt... then they tap dance.
maddd slick with it.
I feel you breh, I'm at least happy there's a song out that is creating discussion about significant topics instead the average turn up song. Whether you agree or disagree with the message, discussion is always great.I get the jest of the song, just think he went overboard with that last line.
My reactions for the 1st 2 verses was like this...
...then that last line came I was like
how can mere emotion provoke thought
Me expressing pain without context cant cause thought provoking discussion
It can only cause reaction
if u add context to the emotion then yes it can be thought provoking
And Cole's context was pretty self explanatory and he said nothing that was either grounbreaking or thought provoking
Unlike the songs kdot has dropped recently
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Notice how in the "The Blacker The Berry" cover shows a mother breastfeeding two babies
Now with "i" we have two opposing gang members (blood & crip) coming together,
Could this possibly be the two babies/brothers growing up?
The mother raised them as babies, now they look to the streets as their new mother
Lets go back to Section.80 & GKMC...
"You've ever seen a newborn baby kill a grown man"
"as a kid I killed two adults, I'm too advanced"
"If I told you I killed a nikka at 16, would you believe me?
Or see me to be innocent Kendrick you seen in the street"
Now back to the new song...
"Been feeling this way since I was 16, came to my senses"
"So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street?
When gang banging make me kill a nikka blacker than me?
Hypocrite!"
He's saying we need to stop killing our own brothers/people/b]
Notice how "I" is the positive while "TBTB" is the opposite.
Looks familiar? Two brothers who want the same thing, just approached differently.
Also we have the rumored initial track list. Notice the track "Both Sides Of The Story"
This may also coincide with 'Untitled' theme of unity & the fruits of life.
The album's narrative (probably fictional or probably not) involves Kendrick (or whoever's the main character) and his relationship to his brother. I say his brother because as you can tell by the artwork they're both sipping milk together from their mother's breast. They grow up together and one becomes a crip, the other a blood (i artwork). At the climax of the story kendrick ends up shooting his brother thus killing him. This song is definitely somewhere in the beginning of the tracklist while narrative wise taking place at the end of the story; remember how GKMC started off at the middle with Sherane and went all over the place? Expect something similar to that. The track 'Both sides of the story' will involve both kendrick and his brothers views as being from different gangs and how they split from each other to gangbanging. I know all of this sounds cliche but I'm sure this isnt the main part of the story but rather a side story going on in line with the bigger picture.
And before someone tries running up on me saying "the tracklist is fake" I'd like to point out that there are several indications from TBTB and 'i' that there's some kind of war atmosphere being portrayed and it falls in line with the leaked tracklist. I could be wrong bout everything and this could be a huge fukking reach but I'm just thinking out loud (obviously could've been a lot clearer about it but idc)
Don't agree with that last paragraph or two here but theres a lot of thematic similarities going o