I still consider a good bulk of Murda Muzik prime P. At least the earliest recorded tracks
Allustrious, Thug Muzik, Where Ya Heart At, Quiet Storm, The Realest, Streets Raised Me, etc. all apex Prodigy.
He hadn’t lost his voice yetRIP thun
Kendrick Lamar is amazing but Lupe Fiasco's concepts,metaphors,swag would trample him - Mickey Factz
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Allustrious, Thug Muzik, Where Ya Heart At, Quiet Storm, The Realest, Streets Raised Me, etc. all apex Prodigy.
He hadn’t lost his voice yetRIP thun
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ayo! - BEZ
Anyone who says kendrick in the same league when it comes to kyricism n wordplay is deaf
Lupe clearly goes clean over your head.
I've told you what mural is about in each post.... and you still missing it.
No wonder you don't feel lupe.
Go over my head how
the song is about anything
a mural usually portrays an image conveying a message, this song says nothing is about song
Kendrick's Humble is far more lyrical and its a radio hit, he conveys multi-layered messages about racism and how the image of black people portrayed in america is a form of brainwashing
Lupe is not on Kendrick level, period never was
Who better lyrically: Lupe or Inspectah Deck?
In other words: “kendrick just takes what Lupe says, simplifies it, and throws it over a trap beat.”
Yes a mural is a painting on a wall
I asked what the song is about, what message is trying to convey
You can't even explain, its not over your head, ITS NOT THERE
THE SONG ISN'T ABOUT ANYTHING
the nikka is just rapping
Lupe can't make listenable music
his music is corny
Kendrick can make conscious music that sounds good
Lupe is a C level artist at best, he in the same league as Canibus, Ras Kass, and they other I'm too lyrical for the public which is the reason I was never a success ass rappers
Lupe has had bigger success than canibus and ras kass, and him being “super lyrical” was never the reason for Lupe’s downfall. Lupe also has simple tracks, yall just know the complex lyrical shyt and use that as some kinda false point. Even His first single kick push wasnt super complex.
Xecutioner
Pro
That hovers above cities like weather men
And maybe weather woman
Whatever better to tell ya weather comin'
I prefer girls to reign all over the world
And not rain like, rain man or rain like rain dance
Or rain like a slight chance of rain when it's raining
Or rein like deer slaves to Santa Claus sleigh man
But reign like Queens that reign over made man
And not Queen like Queen killer, rhapsody bohemian Queen
But Queen like white glove wave hand
And not wave hand like it's a heat wave
So you make a fan by waving your hand
I'm talking wave like you saying "hey"
Man, and not hay for horses and hoarse like you almost voiceless
You gotta treat your vocal chords like it's a fortress
And treat every single one of your words like reinforcements
And especially when you're recording
Cause that's the portion that's important....
Lupe the gawd...
And maybe weather woman
Whatever better to tell ya weather comin'
I prefer girls to reign all over the world
And not rain like, rain man or rain like rain dance
Or rain like a slight chance of rain when it's raining
Or rein like deer slaves to Santa Claus sleigh man
But reign like Queens that reign over made man
And not Queen like Queen killer, rhapsody bohemian Queen
But Queen like white glove wave hand
And not wave hand like it's a heat wave
So you make a fan by waving your hand
I'm talking wave like you saying "hey"
Man, and not hay for horses and hoarse like you almost voiceless
You gotta treat your vocal chords like it's a fortress
And treat every single one of your words like reinforcements
And especially when you're recording
Cause that's the portion that's important....
Lupe the gawd...
Preach Jackson
All Star
dawg i'm not looking to mickey factz to get any analysis in music. nikka still waiting on revolt joe response.
i like both artists for different reasons. i'm not that much of fan lupe recent material besides T&Y and pharaoh height. he still highly skilled just musically inconsistent. lupe has too many looking funny in the light moments. he's bitter about kendrick success it isn't a way around it. this the same guy who said logic was better...now you wanna tell about lyricist boi gtfoh. i would rather be talking about skulls or some other album that we didn't get.
i like both artists for different reasons. i'm not that much of fan lupe recent material besides T&Y and pharaoh height. he still highly skilled just musically inconsistent. lupe has too many looking funny in the light moments. he's bitter about kendrick success it isn't a way around it. this the same guy who said logic was better...now you wanna tell about lyricist boi gtfoh. i would rather be talking about skulls or some other album that we didn't get.
I think this goes to the whole debate over "lyricism". There's the technical definition which concerns itself with the poetic nature of rap (similes, metaphors, alliteration, meter, cadence, etc) and then there's the literal definition which concerns itself purely with what an artist is saying. In the literal sense, what an artist says is just as important if not more important than how they say it. The second definition is less poetry based and moreso prose based. These two definitions are where debates about Pac being just as lyrical as a Big Pun or Canibus might arise. The best artists do both. I used to be a Lupe stan because not only could he make a track like Pen & the Needlez and then make a track like Ghetto Story, but he could combine both styles of lyricism in one song.
No, Kendrick is not seeing Lupe when it comes to that first definition of lyricism. However, Kendrick is very talented with words in the second type of lyricism. Kendrick also doesn't get credit for how talented he is technically when it comes to flowing, multi-syllabic rhyming, internal rhyming, diverse rhyme schemes, etc. Just like Lupe flexes his technical wordplay on tracks like Mean & Vicious, Kendrick flexes his technical skill on a track like Rigamortus.
Here's the really funny thing though: do I think Kendrick could make his own Failure? No, I don't. But I am not in the slightest bit confident Lupe could make his own version of Sing About Me/Dying of Thirst today.
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