Kendrick is the biggest plant we've ever seen (a big leafy summabytch)

[southpawstyle]

When do you think the NY Senate is gonna recognize Rocky as a Generational Icon?

 

[SuburbanPimp]

I don't care about lyricism like that. Personality is far more important to me. Only after you have the personality that I pay attention to lyrics.

I wish you would mentioned this earlier. Now everything makes sense....

Why didn't you just make a thread saying that ASAP Rocky has more personality than K. Dot, J. Cole, Etc...

If you don't care about lyricism why do you bother making threads about Kendrick and J.Cole who obviously value lyrics over swag, clothes, and trying be cool...

They will never truly appeal to rap fans like you who value style over substance.

 

[Cynic]

as usual, you don't do your homework and talk out your ass. Even if you think I talk shyt about Kendrick, I at least do my homework on dude.

Your order is wrong. Let me fix it for you.



fixed.

He signed the deal, then released the tape. In fact, the first time I heard of Rocky was: "there's this random guy called Rocky who has just signed 3 mil deal, and he has a song called Purple Swag and Peso." This was a week before Live.Love.ASAP dropped. No Rocky fans are pretending like he was unsigned during LiveLoveASAP's run (unlike Kendrick fans who pretend that Kendrick wasn't signed to Interscope prior to and during Section 80).

Rocky is a Youtube/Tumblr star that got on because the average person who came across his music online genuinely fukked with his music. Music spoke for itself.

http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013...rap-star-to-international-touring-artist.html

Kendrick was on Youtube for years and no one gave a fukk till Dre stepped in. Different scenario.

That list wasn't made in chronological order , fact is Rocky is actually the prime industry plant

Stick to the facts not your own personal taste or reasons why people like Rockys music.


A Youtube/Tumblr star who has Skrillex, Drake, Kendrick, 2chainz and Rihanna involved on his first commercial release ?


I'm sensing a lot of chlorophyll :wiz:

 

[SirBiatch]

If you don't care about lyricism why do you bother making threads about Kendrick and J.Cole who obviously value lyrics over swag, clothes, and trying be cool...

They will never truly appeal to rap fans like you who value style over substance.

"Lyricism" is the new "mediocre."

My favorite rappers of all time are Nas, Jay-Z and Ghostface. I know great lyrics when I hear em, and Kendrick and J Cole aint got em. Not even close.

That's my issue: I'm listening to these no-personality-having no-lyrics-having guys and people are pretending they're deep. It confuses the shyt out of me.

I'm thinking:

There are cats like Ka that I don't fukk with but @Big Mel put me onto and I say: "OK. not my type of personality but I see some sort of pen game." From what I saw, Ka got much better rhymes than Cole and Kendrick but y'all sleep on Ka then tell me "I'm all about substance and lyrics."

 

[DeuceCypherUno]

Outselling Rocky? no. I could care less about that. Higher critical acclaim? yes. I think the critical acclaim is forced and fake. It doesn't have to be Kendrick. I saw the same thing happen with Kanye and it used to irritate the shyt out of me.

I still wouldnt dedicate whole threads to that tho. whining about rappers being overhyped is as annoying as rappers getting hype for no reason

I dont get the appeal of young thug and RHQ. But instead of making threads about it i'd rather big up albums like Blowout Comb and Stress: The Extinction Agenda. shyt REAL heads get down to.

 

[Black Ball]

That's like 3 blogs. and none of them are major. Even Vibe has OD listed as their 26th favorite mixtape of that year.

I'm telling you: your average hip hop fan had no idea who the fukk Kendrick was until Dre hopped on. 2010 was the year of Friday Night Lights and Kush and OJ. I remember people talking about those mixtapes. Hence why they're 7th and 1st on the Vibe list. No one was talking about Kendrick like that. We can't pretend anymore.

The average Hip Hop fan is largely unaware of the majority of the most talented artists that are starting to make a name for themselves before they breakthrough commercially. What's your point? I thought your point was that he's a manufactured artist and doesn't have a history of making music and grinding before the label put him on.

 

[MasterSpliffter]

"Lyricism" is the new "mediocre."

My favorite rappers of all time are Nas, Jay-Z and Ghostface. I know great lyrics when I hear em, and Kendrick and J Cole aint got em. Not even close.

That's my issue: I'm listening to these no-personality-having no-lyrics-having guys and people are pretending they're deep. It confuses the shyt out of me.

I'm thinking:

There are cats like Ka that I don't fukk with but @Big Mel put me onto and I say: "OK. not my type of personality but I see some sort of pen game." From what I saw, Ka got much better rhymes than Cole and Kendrick but y'all sleep on Ka then tell me "I'm all about substance and lyrics."

You a fukking retard breh /thread

 

[h2o_proof]

The Kendrick Lamar EP dropped in 2009, this is when I first heard of dude. So unless there's evidence of him being signed to Interscope in 2009 I don't see how he's a 'plant'. I'll agree that he was repackaged in 2011 and the perception was that he was fresh off the streets, but if you didn't know about him prior to 2011, then that's just your bad.

 

[Kokoro]

Another featured Kendrick thread

 

[SirBiatch]

I still wouldnt dedicate whole threads to that tho. whining about rappers being overhyped is as annoying as rappers getting hype for no reason

I dont get the appeal of young thug and RHQ. But instead of making threads about it i'd rather big up albums like Blowout Comb and Stress: The Extinction Agenda. shyt REAL heads get down to.

That's you. And frankly, you're probably only saying this because I'm criticizing an artist you like.

The point of message boards is to congratulate, criticize and discuss music in general. I don't understand people who are like: 'don't criticize.'

The average Hip Hop fan is largely unaware of the majority of the most talented artists that are starting to make a name for themselves before they breakthrough commercially. What's your point? I thought your point was that he's a manufactured artist and doesn't have a history of making music and grinding before the label put him on.

No, that was never my point. He clearly was releasing music before label help. He's been signed to Top Dawg for a decade or some shyt.

I'm saying that Dre is the guy that plucked him out of obscurity. Which is almost the same thing as having no music, but not quite.

Essentially, Kendrick wasn't special until Dre showed up. Which is hilarious to me because people pretend like Kendrick is so damn special and innately gifted. And if you don't see it, you're an idiot, don't like Blackness, etc.

Meanwhile, Rocky was just special. No major rapper had to tell you "yo check out Rocky. He the new NY". He blew because something about him was innately alluring.

 

[Mr. Negative]

this song came out in 2008, kendrick all in it!

Soul says he went to the studio to make some tracks, there was a note saying they went to go work on Detox with Weezy F!

did you know that HiiiPower is/was actually Ab-Soul's shyt!?
Why would Dre be working with unknown west coast folks on his album!?

Meanwhile

• No cosign from any legends
• Dated Iggy Azeala
• First mixtape blows up overnight
• Then signed to $3mill deal
• Biggest single has the top rappers
• Megastar dubstep DJ on the single
• Global Pop superstar in Fashion Killa video

@SirBiatch

Don't forget that while having no buzz and no album, he was co-starring in videos with one of the biggest current (at the time) pop stars on the planet......

who's also a high profile plant.

 

[SirBiatch]

rides better? HELL NO.

More interesting concepts? That's debatable and it depends on what you define as "concepts."
Musically... Live.Love.ASAP shyts on any hip hop album I've heard in like 10 years when it comes to genre-mixing, coast-mixing and overall eclecticism (while making an album full of bangers).

Topically? ehh..... I guess I could give that to Kendrick. Both rappers have stale topics.

I don't care about lyricism like that. Personality is far more important to me. Only after you have the personality that I pay attention to lyrics. And lyrically, I think Rocky and Kendrick are about equal. Neither of them say mindblowing shyt.

we'll agree to disagree then since you are a k. dot hater

I like both so more dope music for me

haters aren't analytical. But sure... whatever works.

 

[MasterSpliffter]

That's you. And frankly, you're probably only saying this because I'm criticizing an artist you like.

The point of message boards is to congratulate, criticize and discuss music in general. I don't understand people who are like: 'don't criticize.'



No, that was never my point. He clearly was releasing music before label help. He's been signed to Top Dawg for a decade or some shyt.

I'm saying that Dre is the guy that plucked him out of obscurity. Which is almost the same thing as having no music, but not quite.

Essentially, Kendrick wasn't special until Dre showed up. Which is hilarious to me because people pretend like Kendrick is so damn special and innately gifted. And if you don't see it, you're an idiot, don't like Blackness, etc.

Meanwhile, Rocky was just special. No major rapper had to tell you "yo check out Rocky. He the new NY". He blew because something about him was innately alluring.

nikka shut your dumbass up. Are you trolling or what? Trying to get that WOAT tittle.

 

[Mr. Negative]

I don't care how popular I get or don't get.

I never want another nikka to refer to me as "innately alluring".

ever.

 

[TheNig]

so was asap, before you quote me with 5 paragraphs it's true. You can say what you want or deny it but he was signed before he announced it and had major label help aka an industry plant.

Not just that but he wears dresses and says nikkas dont know fashion when they call him out on it.