I don't care how popular I get or don't get.
I never want another nikka to refer to me as "innately alluring".
because you're simple-minded?
LOL at going the "no homo" route when real conversation is going on.
Go play somewhere, I'm busy.
Kendrick is the biggest plant we've ever seen (a big leafy summabytch)
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because you're simple-minded?
LOL at going the "no homo" route when real conversation is going on.
Go play somewhere, I'm busy.
BodeineBrazy
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Peep the uploader's date: Feb 11 2011
This is before HiiPower and the release of Section 80. Dre (one of the most visible figures in hip hop history) shows up out of nowhere to cosign Kendrick, but Kendrick's not signed to Interscope nor being pushed secretly by them, right?
Then more torch-passing and hype shortly after Section80 release
then MTV says that Kendrick has signed to Interscope in March 2012, ending his run as an independent artist.
King Koonta is the definition of manufactured hype. Show me a video with Jay-Z/Puffy etc coming out to support ASAP Rocky before Purple Swag and LiveLoveASAP. Then I'll shut the fukk up.
Otherwise, I don't wanna hear the words "Rocky a plant" coming out the mouths of a Kendrick stan ever.
In fact, Rocky/Yams are the definition of young cats who said "fukk an industry handout, we're gonna make undeniably unique shyt and create our own buzz. We'll let the music speak for itself." And instead of championing them, most of y'all hated.
Such is the way of the world.
Rocky was a plant, He was signed before Purple Swag even came out. I know this cuz I know the nikka who signed him and I know him. Nobody in NY even knew who them nikkas was and they had a "movement".
Rocky actually might be the biggest plant of all time actually. No shot's, what the fukk is a plant anyway. That term doesnt make sense and I don't think its a negative thing. But if we're talking, having a machine push your movement as independent when your really signed. He's guilty as charged.
Them nikkas was having labels take them shopping, and send car service to they crib since they did "Deep Purple". Originally he was gon sign to Atlantic. This Indian cat that's head A&R (Im not gon holla his name) dropped the ball on them. But that nikka was signed. I mean look at their movement it was too perfectly crafted, no regular nikkas from the hood can do so much in such short time. Not taking away from their work ethic because you can have every door open and not know hot to work the keys.
GS9 is the perfect example of shyt actually being real. Even in jail, they still the hottest thing in NY. As far as the streets of NEW YORK go it's not even comparable. No nikka on this site can dispute that. Rocky and them never really been embraced by they city. It's because they were National before they were ever local. Because they were plants. That's why they brought his first tape out as an EP before his actual record dropped. That was to recoup the initial cash spent to get him off the ground. I'm not theorizing here btw. I know what im talking about.
K Dot not so much. Kendrick had been signed and dropped before he even got to Interscope. Jay Rock's situation is why so many people cosigned K Dot early... that nikka beeeeennn the chosen one. You gotta remember Kendrick was signed to Def Jam before he was on Interscope. He got dropped. TDE failed so many times before nikkas were aware of K. Dot, they were on Strange Music too. People forget all that. Them nikkas won because they failed like 4 or 5 times. But they were building towards being able to make K Dot the new 2Pac/King of LA. That was they plan since Day One. It took awhile but you can see Kendrick online at open mic's, there's even a video of him challenging Charles Hamilton to a battle years ago. You can see their growth visibly. Rocky not so much.
I like both artist by the way. But the truth is the truth and it doesn't make either one of them realer than the other one.
raoulduke187
All Star
he's a plant alright back in the day he was just another nikka on The Game's Blackwalstreet mixtapes and he ain't stand out in any kind of way
I really couldn't distinguish the nikka from say Jay Rock or Eastwood
then all of a sudden everybody n they momma are talking bout this nikka
I peeped Section 80 and that shyt was super boring
Good Kid Mad City couldn't stay in my rotation for more than a week and only had 2-3 good songs
Fact is Kendrick is a below average rapper but he's got the Interscope machine behind him and all the retards are hyping him up like he's some kind of god
It's fukking pathetic
I really couldn't distinguish the nikka from say Jay Rock or Eastwood
then all of a sudden everybody n they momma are talking bout this nikka
I peeped Section 80 and that shyt was super boring
Good Kid Mad City couldn't stay in my rotation for more than a week and only had 2-3 good songs
Fact is Kendrick is a below average rapper but he's got the Interscope machine behind him and all the retards are hyping him up like he's some kind of god
It's fukking pathetic
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
This is perfect stan execution by the Koondricks committee...
I remember when the whole Kendrick is a plant thing started on here...and the Koondricks were not trying to here that AT ALL...
Then the facts came out he was signed to interscrope and the Koondricks perfectly in unison switched up to "well we don't care he makes good music"...
Which is a feat in and of itself...
And now they have taken another Kendrick is a plant thread and turned it into a "yeah but ASAP is a bigger plant"...in flawless fashion...
to the koondricks...because THIS is how you stan...you guys should get together and right a handbook on how to do it right
I remember when the whole Kendrick is a plant thing started on here...and the Koondricks were not trying to here that AT ALL...
Then the facts came out he was signed to interscrope and the Koondricks perfectly in unison switched up to "well we don't care he makes good music"...
Which is a feat in and of itself...
And now they have taken another Kendrick is a plant thread and turned it into a "yeah but ASAP is a bigger plant"...in flawless fashion...
to the koondricks...because THIS is how you stan...you guys should get together and right a handbook on how to do it right
DeuceCypherUno
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I think TPAB has better production, maybe not so much the other 2.
LLA was really a very good modern take on Three 6's earlier style, but I prefer the funkier styles of TPAB.
Rocky's topics are much more stale since they are covered by way more rappers.
Last album I heard there was an album like TPAB topically ON A SEMI-MAINSTREAM level with such consistently dope production was maybe Game Theory? Last time there was a concept album like GKMC that was executed so well was probably A Prince Among Thieves. Maybe a Long Hot Summer but it was much looser. It's much rarer unless i'm forgetting something.
Now Kendrick aint the deepest or most clever rapper ever but for the most part he doesn't drop the ball when talking about topics that he does. He's got a weird voice but i got used to it.
I fukk with your post because you at least attempt some sort of observation. You seem genuine. Though much of it is hearsay and you could be making shyt up from all I know.
But I'm prepared to go with what you're saying: Rocky is a plant. Fine.
So you're saying Rocky was signed BEFORE Purple Swag? Why? Did he even have music before then? Was that the crap on Deep Purple? (That stuff was crap)
so what's the timeline here? Rocky was already signed to someone and they were just trying to figure out what music would work for him? I read somewhere that Live.Love.ASAP was done and was supposed to be totally different from what we ended up hearing, but then Yams brought in Clams/Beautiful Lou and the whole shyt changed.
TELL US WHAT U KNOW
cmon son. The whole album? That album has multiple styles. Post a 3 6 song that sounds like anything Clams Casino did.
and cliche hood stories aren't stale? Cmon be fair.
In the stale topic department, neither Rocky nor Kendrick succeed.
Aint that the truth. I'll never get used to it.
@raoulduke187 your post is 100% real talk.
wingstop
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i am inclined to believe @lotty because i personally had heard of kendrick in 2004, maybe 05. he was on a joint with jay rock and the game.
also kendrick was signed to def jam in 2006, jay-z was well aware of his presence and when he came to NYC wit TDE papoose was the one to show them around NYC for they first time.
i dont doubt the industry plants exsistence though and i do agree there are lies involving kendrick, drake, asap rocky, macklemore etc , the common lie between them all is a major had signed them when they were claiming independent. these are facts.
I've never cared about who was or wasn't an "industry plant."
Long as the music is good
Long as the music is good
BodeineBrazy
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Well I heard about them in 2010/early 2011 when they did "Get High" when Ferg was doing his first little joints as Dee Ferg. If you look at that video. It doesn't look cheap and organic like "Hot nikka" they have lighting and models, there was already money being spent. I believe he got signed after the completion of the first tape.
But they were being courted during him recording it. I used to see them nikkas in DUMBO all the time heading to the studio, They recorded PESO in Brooklyn. Even though nobody knew them, people were saying he was gonna be next up from then. Im not exactly sure how people knew he would be some shyt then.
Maybe im lying but most the shyt ive ever said on this site, usually checks out. SO take it for what its worth.
BodeineBrazy
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I've never cared about who was or wasn't an "industry plant."
Long as the music is good
thats what im trying to say. By these nikkas logic Nas was a Industry Plant on Live At The Barbecue.
I've never cared about who was or wasn't an "industry plant."
Long as the music is good
People say that after their favorite rapper gets exposed.
The reality is that a lot of people buy into the hype and it's a huge aspect of what drives the music at first. Then once the artist has spammed you enough and the 'wheels are in place', then it doesn't matter if x rapper is a fraud - you're already used to him/her. Labels know this.
I feel your sentiment tho: it really doesn't matter HOW someone finds their way into the record business as long as the product is good.
But it becomes an issue when said artist/label is selling the 'grassroots/anti-corporate' story, and you're buying into it because it's grassroots/anti-corporate, when in fact it's the opposite.
Imo, I think Kendrick fans buy into "what Kendrick represents to the game" far more than Rocky fans do for Rocky.
ehh.... now you're stretching it. The hip hop industry in 92/93 was nowhere near as "industry" as it is now.
BodeineBrazy
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nikka Rap made more money then than it does now. My point was Nas was already set up to be the king. nikkas are supposed to be plants really. You should be discovered, cultivated, and put out when the time is right and there should be money behind that. IT'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. As long they not pushing some bullshyt. I don't see why anyone cares about the man behind the curtain.
Also...
My boy text me yesterday, he's an engineer at Stadium Red and a few other spots. He said he heard Rocky album and he thought it was boring, uninspired and it tried too hard to be different. BUT that nikka is a fukking hater who over critiques everything and doesnt enjoy life in general, so I can't take his opinion for shyt. But when I read it I thought, that nikka on thecoli who loves Rocky would die if he read this text. I think his album is gonna sound amazing, i think lyrically he dont know what else to do though.