Ken Ham will debate Bill Nye

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Every single civilization in ancient times lived near large bodies of water. You know, since humans need water to survive. All bodies of water flood at points in time causing "this GREAT FLOOD" that you speak of. There is NO evidence that a worldwide flood occurred. There is NO evidence that these floods all occurred at the same time. You're just making bullshyt up to try to prove a wrong point.

Just posted evidence it did,
 
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Oh, and quit picking and choosing which parts of the Bible are real and which ones are fake. You can't have it both ways. Its either the ultimate authority or its a fairy tale. My money is on the latter.

what are you talking about? I said there's nothing in the bible that says the Earth is 6,000 years old, thats a fact
you never read the bible so you wouldn't know
I'm not saying the bible is real, I'm taking what is in the bible and relating it to evidence in the world
 

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Just posted evidence it did,

Did you watch the video you posted yourself? Theres literally zero evidence of a "great flood" in YOUR OWN VIDEO. The guy states there is a river nearby and these rocks were put up "maybe" 3k years ago to stop that river from overflowing. That shows zero evidence of a worldwide great flood. I see this is really hard for you to understand so I'll give you a picture.
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See all of those blue lines? Those are rivers. They flood sometimes. People live near rivers to get fresh water to survive. Therefore people that live near rivers may die when said rivers flood. This is called common sense. Now if you'd like to give me some examples that point to a "GREAT FLOOD" that took over all of the Earth and caused Noah to build this magical ark that can't be replicated by todays genius shipbuilders, then be my guest. Ill give it a look before I continue to berate you.
 

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Pat Robertson (of all people) telling Ken Ham to stfu. :russ:
Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up: ‘Let’s not make a joke of ourselves’
Pat Robertson responded to the recent debate between Young Earth creationist Ken Ham and Bill Nye, a.k.a. “The Science Guy,” by reiterating his disagreement with Ham’s form of creationism.

“Let’s face it,” Robertson said, “there was a Bishop [Ussher] who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years.”

“There ain’t no way that’s possible,” he continued. “To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible.”

“Let’s be real, let’s not make a joke of ourselves.”

“We’ve got to be realistic,” he concluded, and admit “that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that is found in science and you can’t just totally deny the geological formations that are out there.”

Last November, Robertson raised the ire of Young Earth Creationists when he made similar statements. The hosts of “Creation Today,” Eric Hovind and Paul F. Taylor, attacked Robertson for claiming that dinosaurs could exist, because the world isn’t, in fact, only 6,000 years old.

“Pat Robertson is claiming, then, that 6,000 years comes from Ussher’s book and not the Bible,” Taylor said. “The point is, where did Ussher get his figure of 6,000 years?”

“Now, then, Pat Robertson,” he continued, “are you claiming the Bible is not [divinely] inspired when the Bible clearly tells us that the world is 6,000 years old?”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/...ke-a-joke-of-ourselves/#.UvLeAulNi9g.facebook
 

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Just wanted to pop in and call you retarded real quick. Most ancient civilizations (and current ones) settled around bodies of water in order to survive. Its not supernatural that bodies of water flood at points in time. It is outrageous to say they all flooded at the same time like Noahs Ark

Bill Nye is too nice of a guy to debate this @sshole. I think he took it way too easy on him. Ham lives inside his own head and not in the real world. His examples were horrible. I thought they would at least be decent facts with a religious spin on it but all he could say was God did it. The Bible did it. Silly argument that proved nothing for his side. Bill took the gentlemen's approach to the debate and he could and should have slaughtered this illogical idiot.


totally agree
that's why I could not watch it
the guy deserved a thrashing
he is fukking awful, a damn embarrassment to humanity
 
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totally agree
that's why I could not watch it
the guy deserved a thrashing
he is fukking awful, a damn embarrassment to humanity
agreed.
I watched it, and was hoping that some sense would be injected only to find "god did it" was his scientific answer.(keep in mind I'm a Christian).

I will say I do agree that you can be a scientist AND believe in God. I still maintain my point based on my belief that God=Truth, Science=Way to discern truth so science and God aren't mutually exclusive.

As a believer I'll also say that religion has painted itself into a corner for no good reason. You can say God created something, I don't know how, it's what I believe and i'm looking for proof to that effect the same way an athiest can say, "it happened naturally and i'm looking for proof to that effect".

Ultimately science is the road and God is the destination, we just haven't finished the road. (at least that's what i believe)
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agreed.
I watched it, and was hoping that some sense would be injected only to find "god did it" was his scientific answer.(keep in mind I'm a Christian).

I will say I do agree that you can be a scientist AND believe in God. I still maintain my point based on my belief that God=Truth, Science=Way to discern truth so science and God aren't mutually exclusive.

As a believer I'll also say that religion has painted itself into a corner for no good reason. You can say God created something, I don't know how, it's what I believe and i'm looking for proof to that effect the same way an athiest can say, "it happened naturally and i'm looking for proof to that effect".

Ultimately science is the road and God is the destination, we just haven't finished the road. (at least that's what i believe)

:manny:

I know nothing about this stuff you speak of (God= truth etc...) nor do I know how to get to know it, so....:manny:
 

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I know nothing about this stuff you speak of (God= truth etc...) nor do I know how to get to know it, so....:manny:
well it is a belief not a fact so unless you actively try to know it and take that "leap" of faith you never will. Religion requires you believe in something that cannot be proven; for this reason I don't expect someone who doesn't believe to accept, understand or appreciate "God=Truth" etc...
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agreed.
I watched it, and was hoping that some sense would be injected only to find "god did it" was his scientific answer.(keep in mind I'm a Christian).

I will say I do agree that you can be a scientist AND believe in God. I still maintain my point based on my belief that God=Truth, Science=Way to discern truth so science and God aren't mutually exclusive.

As a believer I'll also say that religion has painted itself into a corner for no good reason. You can say God created something, I don't know how, it's what I believe and i'm looking for proof to that effect the same way an athiest can say, "it happened naturally and i'm looking for proof to that effect".

Ultimately science is the road and God is the destination, we just haven't finished the road. (at least that's what i believe)
:manny:
So if someday we discovered the creator of the universe, this being would fit the description of the Christian god in your view?
 

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well it is a belief not a fact so unless you actively try to know it and take that "leap" of faith you never will. Religion requires you believe in something that cannot be proven;
:manny:

damn boy, you lost me on two counts, I don't do "requirements" very well and I like my evidence almost as much as I like my proofs :ohlawd:

for this reason I don't expect someone who doesn't believe to accept, understand or appreciate "God=Truth" etc...
and I expect that the only way to say you believe in god is to parrot things you've been told without evidence or proof, while deluding yourself that you are engaging in the act of believing, (which is impossible because belief requires evidence, this is wired in the human mind and the macrocosmic natural world), so we even
:manny:
 
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Did you watch the video you posted yourself? Theres literally zero evidence of a "great flood" in YOUR OWN VIDEO. The guy states there is a river nearby and these rocks were put up "maybe" 3k years ago to stop that river from overflowing. That shows zero evidence of a worldwide great flood. I see this is really hard for you to understand so I'll give you a picture.
rivs500map.jpg


See all of those blue lines? Those are rivers. They flood sometimes. People live near rivers to get fresh water to survive. Therefore people that live near rivers may die when said rivers flood. This is called common sense. Now if you'd like to give me some examples that point to a "GREAT FLOOD" that took over all of the Earth and caused Noah to build this magical ark that can't be replicated by todays genius shipbuilders, then be my guest. Ill give it a look before I continue to berate you.

what part do not understand the many of the ruins around in their in south africa are still BURIED from what the believe was the GREAT FLOOD

http://www.noahs-ark.tv/noahs-ark-f...-eusebius-georgius-syncellus-oannes-280bc.htm

scroll the bottom

you can't refute the evidence,
 
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You do realize the link you posted is clearly from a bible thumper? Now the most important part: Do you realize the link you posted has dates ranging over thousands of years? Did this magical worldwide flood last thousands of years? Don't you think the most logical and rational thought is that different parts of the world flooded at different points in time? You know, like how it still happens to this date? Logic is not a religious mans friend.
 
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