Ken Ham will debate Bill Nye

[NoMayo15]

I stated that ancient civilizations all the document of a GREAT FLOOD happening, you said that doesn't prove the flood in the bible happen
and I came back with the Bible takes place in a certain REGION AND PROVED IT, and now your going back to your first point I already rebutted

No, we're talking about different things. You said there's proof all over the Earth of a great flood, and every civilization has documented floods. I'm asking how do you know they're talking about the same flood event? I never said that a flood couldn't have happened in the region you are talking about. I'm asking why do you think every civilization is referring to the SAME flood?

It seems like you're now saying "the world" to EVERY civilization that existed is just East Africa. Is that what you mean, or not? And when you say "all over the Earth" do you mean Africa? Those are two different things, you know.

 

[Master Teacher]

No, we're talking about different things. You said there's proof all over the Earth of a great flood, and every civilization has documented floods. I'm asking how do you know they're talking about the same flood event? I never said that a flood couldn't have happened in the region you are talking about. I'm asking why do you think every civilization is referring to the SAME flood?

It seems like you're now saying "the world" to EVERY civilization that existed is just East Africa. Is that what you mean, or not?

We just went through this argument
The rocks formations unearthed in the soil caused by this suppose Flood all age out around the same time
you didn't take that answer so we moved on

The fact is the region the bible indicates it take place in had a great flood, did it reach the rest of the world

maybe so since all types of civilizations and cultures WROTE ABOUT IT ON WALLS

the bottom line is my argument was it was MORE EVIDENCE supporting the flood did happen
and that I proved myself right

when you've come with absolutely NO PROOF at all, and your suppose to be on the side of SCIENCE, when I'm actually using SCIENCE to support what I'm saying

 

[NoMayo15]

We just went through this argument
The rocks formations unearthed in the soil caused by this suppose Flood all age out around the same time
you didn't take that answer so we moved on

I mean, where did you get this information? Tellinger says the river formed the rocks over time, but I don't recall him attributing it to a massive flood. I might be misremembering though.

But even if it does, how can he use this method of dating to be exact to within a several years? I mean, isn't it possible that floods occured throughout Africa over the span of several years or decades, but still have those same deposits on the rock? How can we for sure attribute it to one flood that lasted 40 days?

The fact is the region the bible indicates it take place in had a great flood, did it reach the rest of the world

And? Are you suggesting that since the bible is accurate about this that everything in the bible is also accurate?

maybe so since all types of civilizations and cultures WROTE ABOUT IT ON WALLS

I don't even know what you're talking about here. Again even if there were writings on walls, how do you attribute it to the flood in East Africa as opposed to a flood local to where they live?

 

[Master Teacher]

I mean, where did you get this information? Tellinger says the river formed the rocks over time, but I don't recall him attributing it to a massive flood. I might be misremembering though.

But even if it does, how can he use this method of dating to be exact to within a several years? I mean, isn't it possible that floods occured throughout Africa over the span of several years or decades, but still have those same deposits on the rock? How can we for sure attribute it to one flood that lasted 40 days?



And? Are you suggesting that since the bible is accurate about this that everything in the bible is also accurate?



I don't even know what you're talking about here. Again even if there were writings on walls, how do you attribute it to the flood in East Africa as opposed to a flood local to where they live?

I'm not saying the bible is accurate I'm just saying what the bible states and what is actually found in REAL LIFE

so there is more evidence to support the claim of the flood than there is evidence that the Flood never happened

 

[NoMayo15]

I'm not saying the bible is accurate I'm just saying what the bible states and what is actually found in REAL LIFE

so there is more evidence to support the claim of the flood than there is evidence that the Flood never happened

But so what? Spider man comics talk about things in New York City. Does that mean Peter Parker is real?

This is a common moving the goal post when religious things come under scrutiny. You're not the first apologist to do this.... where a world-wide flood becomes a flood in east Africa ... crossing the Red Sea is crossing a marsh during low tide ... absolving the sins of humanity is...you get the point. We can play these games all day, but I still don't think the bible is a reliable source for truth.

 

[Master Teacher]

But so what? Spider man comics talk about things in New York City. Does that mean Peter Parker is real?

This is a common moving the goal post when religious things come under scrutiny. You're not the first apologist to do this.... where a world-wide flood becomes a flood in east Africa ... crossing the Red Sea is crossing a marsh during low tide ... absolving the sins of humanity is...you get the point. We can play these games all day, but I still don't think the bible is a reliable source for truth.

All I'm stating is there is evidence supporting the flood in the bible could have happened, I presented evidence
you have yet to produce a shred of evidence showing that it never happened

now you wanna talk about the red sea, which is a whole different story

 

[NoMayo15]

All I'm stating is there is evidence supporting the flood in the bible could have happened, I presented evidence
you have yet to produce a shred of evidence showing that it never happened

now you wanna talk about the red sea, which is a whole different story

Well if you wanna argue against a strawman, go right ahead and do it. I never said a flood as described could not have happened. You've claimed that every civilization that has ever existed refers to that specific flood event, but you have not justified it.

 

[Master Teacher]

Well if you wanna argue against a strawman, go right ahead and do it. I never said a flood as described could not have happened. You've claimed that every civilization that has ever existed refers to that specific flood event, but you have not justified it.

Not every 140 to be exact referred to it, thats a fact, thats a number you cant just dismiss

the bottom line is you have no evidence to say it didn't happen, all I'm saying is I see more evidence it did occur than that it didn't this is the last time I will repeat myself

 

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[DEAD7]

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[ill]

It's not, the fact that ruins like this are found all over the world, and every ancient civilization ever discovered as documented their being a flood
so obviously a FLOOD did happen, there's more evidence the flood happened than it did not happen, using science, so I don't understand people's dismissive arguments

Just wanted to pop in and call you retarded real quick. Most ancient civilizations (and current ones) settled around bodies of water in order to survive. Its not supernatural that bodies of water flood at points in time. It is outrageous to say they all flooded at the same time like Noahs Ark

Bill Nye is too nice of a guy to debate this a$$hole. I think he took it way too easy on him. Ham lives inside his own head and not in the real world. His examples were horrible. I thought they would at least be decent facts with a religious spin on it but all he could say was God did it. The Bible did it. Silly argument that proved nothing for his side. Bill took the gentlemen's approach to the debate and he could and should have slaughtered this illogical idiot.

 

[dontspeakmuch]

interesting

 

[Master Teacher]

Just wanted to pop in and call you retarded real quick. Most ancient civilizations (and current ones) settled around bodies of water in order to survive. Its not supernatural that bodies of water flood at points in time. It is outrageous to say they all flooded at the same time like Noahs Ark

Bill Nye is too nice of a guy to debate this @sshole. I think he took it way too easy on him. Ham lives inside his own head and not in the real world. His examples were horrible. I thought they would at least be decent facts with a religious spin on it but all he could say was God did it. The Bible did it. Silly argument that proved nothing for his side. Bill took the gentlemen's approach to the debate and he could and should have slaughtered this illogical idiot.

The layers of rock tell the ages did even watch the video I posted you dumb fukk, Bill Nye used to the same method to prove the Earth was older than 6,000 years
and once again there's nothing in the bible that says the Earth is 6,000 years old

once again in my qoute I said there's more evidence the great flood in the bible happened than it didn't happen, I didn't say I know it happened no one knows for sure, but there's more evidence supporting the bible than it is going against it

so calling me retarded because if your blind belief makes you no different than the religious zealots you make fun off
also the GREAT FLOOD is apart of EVERY SINGLE CULTURE EVER, so I lean to believe that it more than likely happened

 

[ill]

The layers of rock tell the ages did even watch the video I posted you dumb fukk, Bill Nye used to the same method to prove the Earth was older than 6,000 years
and once again there's nothing in the bible that says the Earth is 6,000 years old

once again in my qoute I said there's more evidence the great flood in the bible happened than it didn't happen, I didn't say I know it happened no one knows for sure, but there's more evidence supporting the bible than it is going against it

so calling me retarded because if your blind belief makes you no different than the religious zealots you make fun off
also the GREAT FLOOD is apart of EVERY SINGLE CULTURE EVER, so I lean to believe that it more than likely happened

Every single civilization in ancient times lived near large bodies of water. You know, since humans need water to survive. All bodies of water flood at points in time causing "this GREAT FLOOD" that you speak of. There is NO evidence that a worldwide flood occurred. There is NO evidence that these floods all occurred at the same time. You're just making bullshyt up to try to prove a wrong point.

 

[ill]

Oh, and quit picking and choosing which parts of the Bible are real and which ones are fake. You can't have it both ways. Its either the ultimate authority or its a fairy tale. My money is on the latter.