Ken Ham will debate Bill Nye

[NZA]

kinda.
For scientific things you can, but once you start trying to explain things by saying, "God did it" then yeah you're not speaking the same language.

For instance we can discuss the big bang and the evidence we see that might support it, that doesn't touch on religion. We can discuss computer science, medicine and science fields like that but once we cross the point where you ask me HOW we run into problems.

If we ask, "what happened before the big bang" when we get down to the "facts" neither one of us can prove shyt unfortunately.

ken said that he was not going to change his mind, he was a christian, he starts with his belief in the bible and works from there. nye said that he would change his mind if there was evidence. that right there sums up the problem in a nutshell. the christian is free to say what ever he wants and never change, the scientist has to consider evidence and adjust accordingly. that's why debates like these are pointless. their philosophy on knowledge and truth are fundamentally incompatible. a creationist might discuss evidence like a scientist when it is convenient, but when it is not convenient, they can resort to pseudoscience or blind faith. nye does not have that luxury. how can you ever get anything good from such a debate?

 

[ill]

you have to realize before the bible the only civilizations were African, so the tale was passed down beginning from probably Sumeria
the bible never mentions Asia Europe, North or South America

the flood referred to in those tablets ins the GREAT FLOOD, that destroyed civilization, when you speak of the world you speak of the civilization

you never heard the terms "the western world" the middle eastern world the eastern "world

they speak of civilizations, when God said he destroyed the world he was destroying civilization

Wait, you really believe there were no civilizations before the Bible?

You really believe life was only found in Africa?

Really

 

[Master Teacher]

Wait, you really believe there were no civilizations before the Bible?

You really believe life was only found in Africa?

Really

When did I say no civilizations
I said the only civilizations were African Ones
the oldest human skeleton and DNA comes from the eastern african regions
the cradle of civilization

The last Pyramid built predates the bible by thousands of years, the bible comes from Kemet and Sumeria cultures

 

[ill]

When did I say no civilizations

you have to realize before the bible the only civilizations were African,

Oh, I see.

Can you explain how these civilizations existed before the Bible? I'll let you ignore the fact they aren't in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria

 

[Master Teacher]

Oh, I see.

Can you explain how these civilizations existed before the Bible? I'll let you ignore the fact they aren't in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria

they didn't, your thinking of the actually creation of the Book

what I meant was the origins of the stories

 

[ill]

they didn't

Ignorance is bliss, I guess. Next you'll tell me "God" wrote the Bible himself. Read some history books, not fairy tales.

 

[ill]

they didn't, your thinking of the actually creation of the Book

what I meant was the origins of the stories

Lol wut? Either there were civilizations before the Bible or there were not. You said there were not. I posted facts only proving you're wrong. Take a step back and realize you may be wrong and the Bible isn't all that that you envision it to be.

 

[ill]

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/art-history-timeline.html

Can you explain how caveman were drawing in caves at least 20,000 years before any part of the Bible was written?

 

[Master Teacher]

Lol wut? Either there were civilizations before the Bible or there were not. You said there were not. I posted facts only proving you're wrong. Take a step back and realize you may be wrong and the Bible isn't all that that you envision it to be.

Stop talking to me like I' a christian you fukking a moron

Bible's origins predate any of those civilizations you mentioned, the bible is a collection of writings, you have to understand this to understand the bible

So the stories have all been burrowed from somewhere else

 

[Master Teacher]

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/art-history-timeline.html

Can you explain how caveman were drawing in caves at least 20,000 years before any part of the Bible was written?

When was the bible written?

 

[ill]

Stop talking to me like I' a christian you fukking a moron

Bible's origins predate any of those civilizations you mentioned, the bible is a collection of writings, you have to understand this to understand the bible

So the stories have all been burrowed from somewhere else

The Bible DOESNT predate all of the listed civilizations. Thats the problem that you can't accept. Only Christians and Jews believe in the Bible so I will continue talking to you like that.

 

[ill]

When was the bible written?

According to you right after God spent 6 days creating our world

 

[ill]

When was the bible written?

http://www.biblica.com/bibles/faq/3/

Moses had the first written book in the Bible and he lived between 1500 and 1300 BC. Now go back to the civilizations I listed and compare dates and shut the fukk up with your wrong theory.

 

[Master Teacher]

http://www.biblica.com/bibles/faq/3/

Moses had the first written book in the Bible and he lived between 1500 and 1300 BC. Now go back to the civilizations I listed and compare dates and shut the fukk up with your wrong theory.

there's proof of that
Moses never existed according to people like you

The fact is the story of Moses comes from the Thutmose a priest in Lower Egypt
that where is derived from

 

[Master Teacher]

According to you right after God spent 6 days creating our world

I never said I believed that but I can't prove he didn't