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Um... because worldwide floods don't happen.

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The bible's ridiculous because it adds supernatural things, which we can't confirm actually happened. I'm perfectly fine accepting some events in the bible might be based on actual things. There might have been some Jewish rabbi named yesuwa that was crucified for speaking against the church and government. Do I think he rose from the dead 3 days later? ... of course not.

First off you it sounds stupid to you, because you've never studied with the Savior actually comes from

Yeshua means Savior
In Sumeria it was Tamuz
in Egypt Heru

it is a SEAT like the presidency not a person, this is what I've found from cross reference with whats in the bible and what the origins of the story actually came from
 

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First off you it sounds stupid to you, because you've never studied with the Savior actually comes from

Yeshua means Savior
In Sumeria it was Tamuz
in Egypt Heru

it is a SEAT like the presidency not a person, this is what I've found from cross reference with whats in the bible and what the origins of the story actually came from

So what? This is all still irrelevant to whether or not all the events that is reported in the bible ACTUALLY occurred. I don't care about the meanings of the word What difference does it make?! You're reading wayyy too much into symbols and taking that to imply some deeper meaning without caring if the myths are truth.

Flood is documented happening in east africa and south africa

also there is nothing in the bible suggesting it takes place outside of Africa

Okay and some times it floods in East & South Africa. So what? Are you saying there was a flood throughout Africa at the same time??

You're just factually wrong here. Places where biblical events are said to happen are across the middle east, as well as Africa.
 
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Acts 8:27-39 - And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, (Read More...)

Daniel 11:43 - But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians [shall be] at his steps.

Isaiah 43:3 - For I [am] the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt [for] thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

Acts 8:27 - And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

Jeremiah 13:23 - Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? [then] may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Isaiah 18:1-6 - Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which [is] beyond the rivers of Ethiopia: (Read More...)


Jeremiah 46:9 - Come up, ye horses; and rage, ye chariots; and let the mighty men come forth; the Ethiopians and the Libyans, that handle the shield; and the Lydians, that handle [and] bend the bow.


Psalms 87:4 - I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this [man] was born there.

Psalms 68:31 - Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God.


Esther 1:1 - Now it came to pass in the days of Ahasuerus, (this [is] Ahasuerus which reigned, from India even unto Ethiopia, [over] an hundred and seven and twenty provinces:smile:

2 Chronicles 14:9-15 - And there came out against them Zerah the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand, and three hundred chariots; and came unto Mareshah. (Read More...)

2 Chronicles 12:3 - With twelve hundred chariots, and threescore thousand horsemen: and the people [were] without number that came with him out of Egypt; the Lubims, the Sukkiims, and the Ethiopians..

2 Kings 19:9 - And when he heard say of Tirhakah king of Ethiopia, Behold, he is come out to fight against thee: he sent messengers again unto Hezekiah, saying,

Numbers 12:1 - And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.


Zephaniah 2:12 - Ye Ethiopians also, ye [shall be] slain by my sword.


Amos 9:7 - [Are] ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?


Ezekiel 29:10 - Behold, therefore I [am] against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste [and] desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.

Jeremiah 38:7-13 - Now when Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, one of the eunuchs which was in the king's house, heard that they had put Jeremiah in the dungeon; the king then sitting in the gate of Benjamin; (Read More...)


Isaiah 45:14 - Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, [saying], Surely God [is] in thee; and [there is] none else, [there is] no God.

Isaiah 18:1 - Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which [is] beyond the rivers of Ethiopia:


2 Chronicles 16:8 - Were not the Ethiopians and the Lubims a huge host, with very many chariots and horsemen? yet, because thou didst rely on the LORD, he delivered them into thine hand.

Ezekiel 38:5 - Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

Ezekiel 30:4-9 - And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt, and they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down. (Read More...)

Job 28:19 - The topaz of Ethiopia shall not equal it, neither shall it be valued with pure gold.

The bible makes it pretty clear where it takes place at now research the ruins found in east africa then get back at me, you will find evidence of the flood
I won't tell you because you won't believe, just take these clues and go look for yourself

White Supremacy has hidden the bible

you speak of the bible and its inaccuracies but you do not know the bible, so you can't talk about the bible and how it actually relates to geology history and science.

The honkey Ken Ham cannot speak on the bible, but only the falsities that come with white supremacy, which is why he sounds silly in this debate
but yet Bill Nye cannot even muster a decent argument because he's arguing against stuff that's not even stated in the bible
 
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So what? This is all still irrelevant to whether or not all the events that is reported in the bible ACTUALLY occurred. I don't care about the meanings of the word What difference does it make?! You're reading wayyy too much into symbols and taking that to imply some deeper meaning without caring if the myths are truth.



Okay and some times it floods in East & South Africa. So what? Are you saying there was a flood throughout Africa at the same time??

You're just factually wrong here. Places where biblical events are said to happen are across the middle east, as well as Africa.

The middle east didn't exists back then
where does the words Middle East appear at in the bible

Perisa was an empire, that started in Africa, and expanded into Asia, they are blacks today who still identify themselves as perisan
their are black people today living in the so called Middle East who have been their since creation and are being oppressed the six ether white devil known as the arab man

you're not equipped go study breh
 

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The bible makes it pretty clear where it takes place at now research the ruins found in east africa then get back at me, you will find evidence of the flood
I won't tell you because you won't believe, just take these clues and go look for yourself

White Supremacy has hidden the bible

you speak of the bible and its inaccuracies but you do not know the bible, so you can't talk about the bible and how it actually relates to geology history and science.

The honkey Ken Ham cannot speak on the bible, but only the falsities that come with white supremacy, which is why he sounds silly in this debate
but yet Bill Nye cannot even muster a decent argument because he's arguing against stuff that's not even stated in the bible


Wow, you might be as dense as Ham. I can do that too, see!

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Pray for the peace of Jerusalem! “May they be secure who love you!


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As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the Lord surrounds his people, from this time forth and forevermore.


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Then all the men of Judah and Benjamin assembled at Jerusalem within the three days. It was the ninth month, on the twentieth day of the month. And all the people sat in the open square before the house of God, trembling because of this matter and because of the heavy rain.


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Anyone can do what you did and simply search for an African nation within the bible. That doesn't mean it solely takes place in Ethiopia. Are you sure you have a degree? You don't seem to be able to support even the simplest positions you hold. What we identify as the middle east today is where the bible takes place. You're just playing semantics to get off the original point: The fact that you cannot support evidence of a worldwide flood.
 
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Wow, you might be as dense as Ham. I can do that too, see!




Anyone can do what you did and simply search for an African nation within the bible. That doesn't mean it solely takes place in Ethiopia. Are you sure you have a degree? You don't seem to be able to support even the simplest positions you hold. What we identify as the middle east today is where the bible takes place. You're just playing semantics to get off the original point: The fact that you cannot support evidence of a worldwide flood.

Look on the map and see where Jerusalem is you fukking moron what we call the middle east today actually broke off from the continent of Africa
Ethiopia was a GREAT KINGDOM that extended beyond its origin
 

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YOUR DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE

Okay, you're right. And you, someone who claims to have never gone to chuch in your life, clearly is more informed on the bible than I.

Oh, have mercy great one. Please don't smite me with your great biblical knowledge.
 
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Okay, you're right. And you, someone who claims to have never gone to chuch in your life, clearly is more informed on the bible than I.

Oh, have mercy great one. Please don't smite me with your great biblical knowledge.

You have to understand Ethiopia WAS A HUGE KINGDOM in bibical times and spanned over all of eastern africa

also in those scriptures you did they're speaking of THE KINGDOM of ISRAEL AS A WHOLE not a single place when they mention Jerusalem which is the SEAT OF POWER

you dumb fukk
 

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You have to understand Ethiopia WAS A HUGE KINGDOM in bibical times and spanned over all of eastern africa

also in those scriptures you did they're speaking of THE KINGDOM of ISRAEL AS A WHOLE not a single place when they mention Jerusalem which is the SEAT OF POWER

you dumb fukk

You're just playing semantics to get off the original point: The fact that you cannot support evidence of a worldwide flood.
 
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I never said it was a worldwide Flood

in the bible the region in AFRICA IS THE WORLD to them you fool thats what I'm proving to you

where does that words Asian, Europe, Australia, and Antartica

also jersualem appears in the bible WELL AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD
where Ethiopia is there from the beginning

which is why I said you don't understand the bible because you never read it

and the east african regions where the bible takes place there is evidence of the FLOOD as well is south africa where it could have very well reached
 

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I never said it was a worldwide Flood

in the bible the region in AFRICA IS THE WORLD to them you fool thats what I'm proving to you

where does that words Asian, Europe, Australia, and Antartica

and the east african regions where the bible takes place there is evidence of the FLOOD as well is south africa where it could have very well reached

Because you are conflating flood beliefs in Africa and the Middle East to those of Asian & American cultures, are you not?

*Edit* When you say things like "There's proof all over the Earth", it's only reasonable for me to think you accept what's generally believed as a worldwide flood... not one local to nations in Africa.
 
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Because you are conflating flood beliefs in Africa and the Middle East to those of Asian & American cultures, are you not?

I stated that ancient civilizations all the document of a GREAT FLOOD happening, you said that doesn't prove the flood in the bible happen
and I came back with the Bible takes place in a certain REGION AND PROVED IT, and now your going back to your first point I already rebutted

your a waste of time because your arguing for the sake of arguing
I'm not saying any of this is true all I'm saying is there is more evidence supporting by science that is and than is not
and that is a FACT

also Jerusalem is from the new testament where many believers feel is made up book by white westeners not any orginal text

the five books of moses the Torah, doesn't even mention Jerusalem, and this the Jewish people's holy book. Now its probably true that Jerusalem was just made up carved out in the middle of same land for politically reasons and never really existed
 
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