Katt Williams on Club Shay Shay

[semicko82]

You have an unnatural allegiance to losers and it's not like you.

chess not checkers

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

You might be the only person on the planet who thinks this

11 million views in 48 hours but it's "boring"

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Stop body shaming

Bernie wore one too same company different model

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Godfrey is live giving his 2 cents

I always thought Godfrey was cool. I wouldnt mind him on Club Shay Shay next

 

[Ziggiy]

Using Will Smith is a bad comparison. Will was an unproven actor but he was popular as hell. Fresh Prince came out in 1990. Parents just dont understand came out in 88, he won a grammy for it. He was a star already. IIRC the show was also billed as his vehicle, he was the star and meant to carry the show. The other actors had more acting credits, but Will was the most popular going into the show. The other actors werent household names looking at their wiki pages/filmography.

Compare that to Soul Plane. Were 3 household names were more popular than Kevin and more experienced, especially DL who had a tv show at the time. Like Kat said, Kevin had all that lined up before hit LA/Hollywood thru connections. You or some other person posted how Spanky said the director from Paper Soldier or w/e handpicked kev for the role.

With that said, Kev still grinded and worked hard to get to the heights he has now. Being able to put his ppl on and do his own productions.

Will Smith’s rap career wasn’t looked at as necessarily a net positive when the creation of Fresh Prince Of Bel Air took place, ESPECIALLY since he’d just bricked with his and Jazzy’s third album and he owed the IRS a ton of money. Rap wasn’t the mainstream cultural juggernaut nor at the the center of the pop cultural zeitgeist coming into the 90’s that it WOULD become, ironically enough, thanks to shows like Fresh Prince and movies like House Party, which debuted the same year. Will got Fresh Prince because Benny Medina believed in him after seeing Will’s music videos for Girls Ain’t Nothin But Trouble, Parents Just Don’t Understand, and I Think I Beat Mike Tyson and convinced Quincy Jones to take the chance on backing him. The network execs were NOT sold on Will at the time due to not understanding rap nor Will’s appeal. Quincy arranged an impromptu dinner party at his mansion IN Bel Air and had Will come by and basically audition in front of the head of NBC and a slew of studio execs. THATS how he got the show and ended up breaking into Hollywood.

Will’s story, despite his success as a rapper, is extremely similar to Kevin’s, in that if people can see your talent, charm, and hustle, you’ll get an opportunity. If people see all of that PLUS the potential you’ll be a star, you get a BIG opportunity. Same thing happened for Kevin Hart, Dave Chappelle, Eddie Murphy, and Chris Rock. Kevin Hart had been doing comedy and touring the chitlin circuit (RIGHT BESIDE Katt Williams) for at LEAST 4-5 years before Soul Plane. Kevin was 24 when he landed the role in Soul Plane. Dave Chappelle was 19 when he landed Robin Hood: Men In Tights and had been doing standup since he was 15. Thats 4 years. Eddie Murphy was 18 when he got SNL and had been doing standup since he was 14. Thats 4 years. Ok now lets discount Eddie since its universally agreed that Eddie was a prodigy, one a million type talent. Lets use Chris Rock, he’d been doing comedy since he was 19, he landed SNL at 24. Thats 5 years. And Chris had no specials at the time.


So this notion that a comedian couldn’t come out of “nowhere” and get a shot is false. You need talent and connections but it COULD be done. It would be SUPER EASY to look at Will Smith, coming off a flopped album from a music genre that was still fighting for legitimacy without any acting acting experience whatsoever, getting his OWN series and yelling “PLANT”! It would be SUPER EASY to look at 19 year old Dave Chappelle who hadn’t accomplished shyt on a mainstream level, get a co-starring role in a Mel Brooks movie for his film debut and yell “PLANT”! We don’t do that to them so I see no reason to do it to Kevin Hart.

Sometimes people simply are THAT good and somebody notices it and gives them their break. There’s really no rhyme or reason to making it in the entertainment industry. Yes, some had to hit that casting couch or do something strange for a piece of change. But given his easily verifiable history, Kevin Hart is NOT one of those people.

 

[Marco Zen]

Why wouldnt the truth matter? Why the hell are you in this thread? Why are you even commenting between the two of us if all you can offer in the convo is "why does it matter?" Go kick rocks, you on a discussion board. You could say that to every topic on here. Yet you in here posting.

Why didnt you ask Marco why it mattered so much for him to say everything Kat said about Steve/Ced was a lie?

First of all nikka you lying I never said everything katt said is a lie

And furthermore, katt Williams isn't a beacon of truth either so

 

[Marco Zen]

Anybody can break the internet calling out nggas careers, wives, volunteering that someone propositioned you, etc

This middle part where he’s talking about his life story is putting me to sleep. Nobody cares about all that people want irreverence. shyt ain’t a skill

Go to Mike Epps IG right now his last post before this was buying his block in Indianapolis. Michael Blackson’s is a post about that same thing, him supporting Mike Epps in Indy. Earthquake and Ricky smiley sons just graduated

Like again this is entertaining but once the dust settles it’s highly noteworthy about just where people are mentally, the things we cheer on, etc

This.

I'm glad somebody said it

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Act like Kat wasn’t the first comedian to be in a major video game lmaoo

 

[Braman]

Says he knows he couldve been bigger or w/e but said he didnt want to compromise his integrity to get those roles, whether it was doing gay stuff or "step and fetchin" type shyt.

Is this the twilight zone

You’d think we were talking about James Baldwin

‘Coulda been bigger but I wasn’t on no c00nin shyt’

Like what are we talking about here

 

[KingDanz]

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Will Smith’s rap career wasn’t looked at as necessarily a net positive when the creation of Fresh Prince Of Bel Air took place, ESPECIALLY since he’d just bricked with his and Jazzy’s third album and he owed the IRS a ton of money. Rap wasn’t the mainstream cultural juggernaut nor at the the center of the pop cultural zeitgeist coming into the 90’s that it WOULD become, ironically enough, thanks to shows like Fresh Prince and movies like House Party, which debuted the same year. Will got Fresh Prince because Benny Medina believed in him after seeing Will’s music videos for Girls Ain’t Nothin But Trouble, Parents Just Don’t Understand, and I Think I Beat Mike Tyson and convinced Quincy Jones to take the chance on backing him. The network execs were NOT sold on Will at the time due to not understanding rap nor Will’s appeal. Quincy arranged an impromptu dinner party at his mansion IN Bel Air and had Will come by and basically audition in front of the head of NBC and a slew of studio execs. THATS how he got the show and ended up breaking into Hollywood.

Will’s story, despite his success as a rapper, is extremely similar to Kevin’s, in that if people can see your talent, charm, and hustle, you’ll get an opportunity. If people see all of that PLUS the potential you’ll be a star, you get a BIG opportunity. Same thing happened for Kevin Hart, Dave Chappelle, Eddie Murphy, and Chris Rock. Kevin Hart had been doing comedy and touring the chitlin circuit (RIGHT BESIDE Katt Williams) for at LEAST 4-5 years before Soul Plane. Kevin was 24 when he landed the role in Soul Plane. Dave Chappelle was 19 when he landed Robin Hood: Men In Tights and had been doing standup since he was 15. Thats 4 years. Eddie Murphy was 18 when he got SNL and had been doing standup since he was 14. Thats 4 years. Ok now lets discount Eddie since its universally agreed that Eddie was a prodigy, one a million type talent. Lets use Chris Rock, he’d been doing comedy since he was 19, he landed SNL at 24. Thats 5 years. And Chris had no specials at the time.


So this notion that a comedian couldn’t come out of “nowhere” and get a shot is false. You need talent and connections but it COULD be done. It would be SUPER EASY to look at Will Smith, coming off a flopped album from a music genre that was still fighting for legitimacy without any acting acting experience whatsoever, getting his OWN series and yelling “PLANT”! It would be SUPER EASY to look at 19 year old Dave Chappelle who hadn’t accomplished shyt on a mainstream level, get a co-starring role in a Mel Brooks movie for his film debut and yell “PLANT”! We don’t do that to them so I see no reason to do it to Kevin Hart.

Sometimes people simply are THAT good and somebody notices it and gives them their break. There’s really no rhyme or reason to making it in the entertainment industry. Yes, some had to hit that casting couch or do something strange for a piece of change. But given his easily verifiable history, Kevin Hart is NOT one of those people.

Breh it's not that you're wrong but you remove a lot of the racial viewpoints that are important in this discussion. Because (and this is unfortunate) at every point, these are white executives and gatekeepers who decides who gets on. And they don't like black people and so they're going to be very careful on who they push.

One thing I will say is this. Katt Williams is KNOWN to be one of the biggest black philanthropists in this country in the ways that truly matters. He comes out of his pocket and he helps black people. There's thousands of stories about that.

Do you think a white exec who doesn't really like black people is going to want to put THAT person in a position to make hundreds of millions?

Or... would they take on a guy who don't give an eff about anything but doing whatever they tell him to do to get his career off the ground and will never step out of line?

And I like Kevin Hart. But Kev is one of those guys who's gonna do whatever he has to do to stay on. Same with Steve Harvey. Steve flat out told Monique that he will do whatever the hell they want him to do, and that he will sell out and he doesn't care about having dignity.

Those are the types that white execs want in those positions. Not someone like Katt Williams.

 

[rabbid]

About halfway thru and shannon simply seems unprepared. i understand having an outline but after about 20-30mins you need to call an audible and realize the interview has shifted and shyt aint gonna go the same way as the others. his questions are very basic and unrefined. he's afraid to follow up on viral moments as well. kinda like when hoe rogan interviewed kanye.

then he goes on nightcap and criticize ocho for being too soft on nfl players/teams while he defending these random comedians that he dont really know like that. i dislike the inconsistency but i understand its a different platform. but im not watching more of these shay shay joints.

 

[Ziggiy]

Breh it's not that you're wrong but you remove a lot of the racial viewpoints that are important in this discussion. Because (and this is unfortunate) at every point, these are white executives and gatekeepers who decides who gets on. And they don't like black people and so they're going to be very careful on who they push.

One thing I will say is this. Katt Williams is KNOWN to be one of the biggest black philanthropists in this country in the ways that truly matters. He comes out of his pocket and he helps black people. There's thousands of stories about that.

Do you think a white exec who doesn't really like black people is going to want to put THAT person in a position to make hundreds of millions?

Or... would they take on a guy who don't give an eff about anything but doing whatever they tell him to do to get his career off the ground and will never step out of line?

And I like Kevin Hart. But Kev is one of those guys who's gonna do whatever he has to do to stay on. Same with Steve Harvey. Steve flat out told Monique that he will do whatever the hell they want him to do, and that he will sell out and he doesn't care about having dignity.

Those are the types that white execs want in those positions. Not someone like Katt Williams.

I’m black AND in the industry, the racial component isn’t lost on me in the slightest. But we weren’t making it a context of race at the beginning of these discussions, we were making about TALENT, lack therof, and who is and isn’t a plant. I was arguing based upon that rhetoric.

Here’s the thing. There are A LOT of philanthropic black celebrities in the industry. They give lots of money to black people and black causes, they just don’t advertise it. Katt Williams is a verified good guy when it comes to helping the average man, or the comedian on the come up. Or a celebrity whose down on their luck. But so is someone like T.I. Whose given THOUSANDS of dollars to poor people here in Atlanta. And helped out Mick Vick financially when them white people were trying to tar and feather him. Nas has helped out lots of people financially and has basically adopted QueensBridge. Kevin Hart has been known to help out people. Hell even Jerrod Carmichael, who doesn’t fit the public bill of a nikka who “cares” has helped out black people in his hometown. These people can give back and keep their statuses within the industry. Its not impossible.


And i’m not saying Katt doesn’t have legit beefs with some of these people. Its coming out and looking like Cedric has been stealing jokes for a min. Its BEEN KNOWN that Steve Harvey is a scum bag. And it looks (in my opinion) like the Rickey Smiley shyt is a case of a misunderstanding regarding poor wording. Ricky hasn’t come off like a Katt Williams hater or like he was intentionally trying to take credit “away” from Katt as Money Mike. He was just trying to say that he auditioned for, and possibly landed the role of money Mike when it was written a certain way and then Katt came in and crushed the buildings and they rewrote and formulated the part for him. That happens often in filmmaking


My only “issue” is with what Katt said regarding Luda and what he said regarding Kevin. I don’t like the whole “You gotta sell your soul you gotta give up your ass to the Illuminati to get on” angle because it dismisses the very real accomplishments that black men achieve in the industry, INCLUDING looking out for one another. Luda got Fast & Furious because John Singleton (a BLACK MAN) looked out for him. Plus you never EVER have heard anything negative or scandalous about Luda. That man created a show WITH his daughter that is a positive representation of black fatherhood. The “Illuminati” wouldn’t allow no shyt like that.

 

[bucks3115]

I got my own mind blood

I don’t care what yall nikkaz think

neg
fakkit

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

11 million views in 48 hours but it's "boring"

bro it's on 14MILLION wtf.....

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