Just saw the new Star Trek movie

[Ain't That Something]

Movie is a big disappointment. It looks great, and there are some good performances from Benedict, Quinto, Pegg, etc, but the plot is straight ass. They really stoop low for some of the plot points, and rush from one action set piece to another until it's over. They also ignore everything that makes Star Trek unique, in favor of generic action/sci-fi with big explosions and futuristic gunfights. The use of the villain was ridiculous- he's an iconic villain from the past, but they ignore all that in favor of turning him into a generic superpowered fighter (though he is well-acted.) In fact, they have to rely on a cheap trick jumping off the time travel/alternate continuity to try and hype him up.

The NYT review says it all: http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/05/1...all&adxnnlx=1368713147-RtTGzymPDTiPOIuBh+5C4Q

And This Is Why Most People Dont Take Movie Critics Seriously.

 

[The Real]

And This Is Why Most People Dont Take Movie Critics Seriously.

Why? What was unreasonable about his review?

 

[Silver Surfer]

Movie is a big disappointment. It looks great, and there are some good performances from Benedict, Quinto, Pegg, etc, but the plot is straight ass. They really stoop low for some of the plot points, and rush from one action set piece to another until it's over. They also ignore everything that makes Star Trek unique, in favor of generic action/sci-fi with big explosions and futuristic gunfights. The use of the villain was ridiculous- he's an iconic villain from the past, but they ignore all that in favor of turning him into a generic superpowered fighter (though he is well-acted.) In fact, they have to rely on a cheap trick jumping off the time travel/alternate continuity to try and hype him up.

The NYT review says it all: http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/05/1...all&adxnnlx=1368713147-RtTGzymPDTiPOIuBh+5C4Q

 

[Jello Biafra]

Why? What was unreasonable about his review?

My issue with his review is

Spoiler

His whining about the militarization of Starfleet is an invalid criticism since the fact that Starfleet was becoming more militarized had everything to do with storyline. Adm. Marcus (the guy running things) losing his shyt due to paranoia about other alien races attacking the Federation planets is why there was a militaristic vibe in Starfleet. Marcus' descent into jingoistic paranoid delusion was a major part of the plot and Kirk ended up opposing it despite his thirst for revenge.

 

[Drew Wonder]

I enjoyed it. but I'm sure if I was a trekkie I would've hated it

Spoiler

Spock going crazy at the end was

 

[Bud Bundy]

Another Star Wars in trek. But with that Abrams is going to do great when he gets his hands on Star Wars. Hopefully this is enough to get Star Trek back on tv. Star Trek shines when it is on tv.

 

[Ayo]

My take on it

• The opening scene had Indiana Jones written all over it. The way JJ worships Spielberg it's not surprising.
• The scene with all of the Commanders was a Godfather 3 ripoff. PERIOD. Those who saw this movie and knows TGF3 should have recognized it immediately like I did.
• The movie was filled with the 'ticking time bomb' plot device. Which was great the first 20 times it was used….but got old. After the 30th time the urgency was gone.
• Not sure if it felt like a Star Trek movie or not. I'm not a Trekkie or a fan of the old series. From what I know it definitely seemed like their were a lot more action and set pieces. But then again, if the old series/movies had access to the VFX we have now…it might have looked like this. So this is an evolution. Not a revolution.
• There were some plot holes. But there are going to be plot holes in any scifi movie once you start scrutinizing things.
• A few times it seems like the writers wrote themselves into corners.
  Spoiler

  Seemed like the first scene with the little girl was an after thought, forced in there in there just to set up the ending. They needed Spock to save the day and return Kirk the favor. For that they needed Kirk out of the way. So they killed Kirk outfor a little while then brought him back to life. That's lazy writing.

All in all I give it a B

 

[Bud Bundy]

Oh and also

Spoiler

I refuse to believe earth does not have some kind of planetary defense. Never mind that earth in trek is a utopia but they just witnessed one of there own members lose a planet in the pervious movie and there are no ships patrolling the planet.

But that is just a nitpick.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

Can err get a poll on this thread

 

[god=nature=we'reFUCKED]

Watching Spock go full felt cathartic and a was the ill highlight

 

[Busby]

This was one of the best Star Trek movies I've seen in a long time..real shyt

Spoiler

As soon as it was revealed it was Khan damn near the whole theater full of Trekkies yelled out
Khaaan!!! - YouTube

Also the lil switch of having Kirk die and Spock go out and give the beats to Khan left me

 

[Spidey Man]

My issue with his review is

Spoiler

His whining about the militarization of Starfleet is an invalid criticism since the fact that Starfleet was becoming more militarized had everything to do with storyline. Adm. Marcus (the guy running things) losing his shyt due to paranoia about other alien races attacking the Federation planets is why there was a militaristic vibe in Starfleet. Marcus' descent into jingoistic paranoid delusion was a major part of the plot and Kirk ended up opposing it despite his thirst for revenge.

This is one thing I've never understood about trek. Star FLEET is the military. Everybody got on ds9 because it had less exploration and more militaristic stories. The organization has fleet in its name and Kirk is commanding an advanced warship. It has always been about the military and trekies love to complain and try and point out that they are not soldiers.

 

[Bud Bundy]

This is one thing I've never understood about trek. Star FLEET is the military. Everybody got on ds9 because it had less exploration and more militaristic stories. The organization has fleet in its name and Kirk is commanding an advanced warship. It has always been about the military and trekies love to complain and try and point out that they are not soldiers.

Star fleet is not and never was a military organization. They were always explorers and only militarized when they had to. But I will give the writers credit for keeping the morality of the federation intact.

And the enterprise is not a warship.

 

[HHR]

As someone with zero familiarity with or affinity for the Star Trek franchise...I thoroughly enjoyed this film.

I don't think Pine is particularly good, but he has excellent chemistry with rest of the cast, particularly Quinto. Cumberbatch was brilliant. The movie was significantly better every moment he was on the screen.

The action was all very well done, with the exception of the hand-to-hand combat (which ranged from mediocre to AWFUL, especially the first moments on Marcus' ship)...

At the end I was a bit disappointed in the cop out....because it was both obvious and completely lowers any stakes the story may have had. It felt like two different stories they attempted to weave together...and they weren't always successful.

The Admiral Marcus/militarization of star fleet would have made a great movie on it's own...I don't think it needed the introduction of Khan and the "twist". Though the fact that Spock warns against the 'twist' many times kind of makes it twist-less imo.

Whatever, I had a damn good time in the theater.

 

[daemonova]

now this was a popcorn movie