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As bad as Fassbender's character was though, imo the most evil character was Paul Giammati's. the way the dude just moved the slaves around, inspected them and broke families apart as if he was just moving inventory was disturbing as hell. but it perfectly broke down the true essence and evil of slavery. they literally saw these people as property, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Oh and I swear to fukking god if Ejiofor doesn't win the best actor Oscar for this movie I'm a lose my shyt. Same goes of McQueen for best director and Ridley for best screenplay.

I doubt Ejiofor is getting best actor. McQueen might get the nod but it will be a toss up if he wins. Has there ever been a black director for best director? He could be first. I can see ridley getting best screenplay.
 

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Everything that happened back then is still the same today to include black society's behavior, mentality, and attitude. Slavery is the root to everything that's "American". So to deny there were no such things as Uncle Toms, no such thing as so-called "c00ns", no such thing as sell-outs really are BLIND to how things are today and how little different they actual are from back then. In fact, it's a lot worse because the mental, psychological breaking of the black man during slavery times was successful to the point the vast majority of the black man are in mental enslavement.

Listen carefully the conversation between Clemons, Solomon, and Michael K. Williams' character: Michael K. Williams told them we should rise up and overtake the crew. Solomon was initially with it because of the assumption that all of them together outnumber can overtake crew but Clemons spoke the reality saying the rest of them were "n*ggers", and their mentality if they don't give a f*ck, don't have a stomach for an uprising. How anyone cannot see the allegory to how it is today is beyond me, because that's how we are today!

There's also the the correlation of our woman and how most of our women today struggle to embrace true love with her black man and vice versa.

Understand that slavery is the root to everything we are enduring today. Even the "Run, N*gga, Run" song is connected to our interactions against the police. Also, the issues with white privilege, the prison industrial complex, religion, and separation of the homes were all allegories connecting then to now.

So to deny the fact Solomon wasn't an Uncle Tom is like saying Clearance Thomas wasn't an Uncle Tom. Solomon didn't care or was naive of how his people was treated and was dismissive about slavery until HE became a slave and it took those 12 years to end up accepting his fate (which was the funeral scene shown).
 

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As bad as Fassbender's character was though, imo the most evil character was Paul Giammati's. the way the dude just moved the slaves around, inspected them and broke families apart as if he was just moving inventory was disturbing as hell. but it perfectly broke down the true essence and evil of slavery. they literally saw these people as property, nothing more, nothing less.

kind of crazy when you consider the majority of these people were Christians.
 

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As bad as Fassbender's character was though, imo the most evil character was Paul Giammati's. the way the dude just moved the slaves around, inspected them and broke families apart as if he was just moving inventory was disturbing as hell. but it perfectly broke down the true essence and evil of slavery. they literally saw these people as property, nothing more, nothing less.

And that's' compounded by the fact that he KNEW Northup was a free man. That's why he slapped him across the face when he told him his real name and he knew exactly who was supposed to be going by that name.
 

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I doubt Ejiofor is getting best actor. McQueen might get the nod but it will be a toss up if he wins. Has there ever been a black director for best director? He could be first. I can see ridley getting best screenplay.

If he doesn't getting it'll look even worse than that time Denzel got fukked over for Malcolm X.

To my knowledge no Black director has even been nominated for an Oscar, which is fukked up considering the films Spike Lee has made throughout his career.
 

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I doubt Ejiofor is getting best actor. McQueen might get the nod but it will be a toss up if he wins. Has there ever been a black director for best director? He could be first. I can see ridley getting best screenplay.

Are you asking have a black director ever been nominated or won? John Singleton and Lee Daniels were the only ones that ever got nominated.
 

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Are you asking have a black director ever been nominated or won? John Singleton and Lee Daniels were the only ones that ever got nominated.

Wait, Singleton got nominated for Boyz in the Hood? I love that film but it wasn't worthy of an Oscar nod.

Lee Daniels is an exploitative director who mostly makes misery porn for white people.
 

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she should deff get best female acting nod.

She'll be up for Best Supporting Actress for sure. From what I've seen so far this year, she should run away with the category.
 

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Wait, Singleton got nominated for Boyz in the Hood? I love that film but it wasn't worthy of an Oscar nod.

Lee Daniels is an exploitative director who mostly makes misery porn for white people.


lol some one didn't like Precious.
 

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As bad as Fassbender's character was though, imo the most evil character was Paul Giammati's. the way the dude just moved the slaves around, inspected them and broke families apart as if he was just moving inventory was disturbing as hell. but it perfectly broke down the true essence and evil of slavery. they literally saw these people as property, nothing more, nothing less.

The worst for me was Ford, because under that mask of being a so-called kind heart preacher, he was no better than the rest, but gave those slaves false hope. Paul Giammati was cruel, but at least you knew where he was coming from, however Ford was a straight up coward and bought Eliza in spite of it all thinking he was doing HER a favor.Same as sending Solomon to Epps as if he was doing him a favor when reality it was a debt that he owed. He didn't see those people are human beings either, yet pretended to be caring. It's like how Liberals today are vs. Conservatives. At least with a conservative you know what you are going to get.
 

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also, it's funny to me that Fassbender dates black women in real life. I'm just picturing him taking his black girlfriend to see the movie and her being :merchant: after, looking at him different and shyt
 
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