Juice WRLD Dead @ 21 After Suffering Seizure (RIP)

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Modern psuedo science doesn't change the fact that to be addicted to a substance you must first choose to consume the substance.
I have a genetic pre-disposition to be addicted to alcohol.
I choose not to drink or take addictive substances because I know, it might not end good for me.
Its the same with any person.
As human beings we have agency, we choose actions we want to take.

You want to make addicts seem as if they are not people and can only ever be addicts because of a flawed incorrect pre-destination fallacy about genetic disposition, ignoring that every individual has a very real choice in all actions they take.

Every addict has a choice, if you are around them enough, former addicts and current ones, you realize the choice they make with every refusal or indulgence.
Poverty doesn't make addicts either, most poor in this country are not addicts, and studies show higher income people have a larger addiction rate to drugs than your lower income people.

All that to say, stop livign in a fantasy world where people have no power or control over their own actions.
If you want to live reckless, own up that you simply want to live reckless, stop blaming "genetics", income, "society" and etc for your own personal failures.
Like they say in AA, that first drink/hit is a choice, after that the addiction takes over.

Some people may not know that they are predisposed to addiction, and will take that first drink/hit and be hooked. Others will take that first drink/hit and be fine.
 

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Like they say in AA, that first drink/hit is a choice, after that the addiction takes over.

Some people may not know that they are predisposed to addiction, and will take that first drink/hit and be hooked. Others will take that first drink/hit and be fine.
The next drink/hit is always a choice.
NO treatment is successful if the person doesn't want to stop, and make that choice when offered or when the opportunity to indulge arises to say no.
Even AA, NA, and all other treatment programs say that.
 

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The next drink/hit is always a choice.
NO treatment is successful if the person doesn't want to stop, and make that choice when offered or when the opportunity to indulge arises to say no.
Even AA, NA, and all other treatment programs say that.
You are right and wrong. Addiction makes actual changes in your brain. So, the "choice" to take that next drink is heavily influenced by your brain on the effects of addiction.

It's like fat people. They "choose" to eat bad food, but they are addicted to food (it makes them feel better), so that addiction is influencing rational thought and they get fatter and fatter
 

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Wasn't he managing Juice? He could have kept that

If you allow yourself to be "influenced" into doing anything harmful to yourself, you're just a weak-minded person sorry. I can't blame Future, Pimp or Weezy for ppl choosing to try and become addicted to hard drugs

It's still RIP but it's just music....entertainment not something to base your life around Just as ridiculous as cacs in the 80s who blamed Ozzy Osbourne for their kids killing themselves
I agree for the most part, but another reason I think young artists get into that lifestyle coming up is because the simply don't have shyt else to talk about in their music without it.
 

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You are right and wrong. Addiction makes actual changes in your brain. So, the "choice" to take that next drink is heavily influenced by your brain on the effects of addiction.

It's like fat people. They "choose" to eat bad food, but they are addicted to food (it makes them feel better), so that addiction is influencing rational thought and they get fatter and fatter
Addiction actually doesn't make any changes into your brain, being intoxicated effects decision making though, but you ability to decide and make choices is present.
Fat people aren't addicted to food, they choose to make unwise eating choices and combine that with general laziness, don't burn enough calories to offset their intake.

Time to stop making excuses for poor life choices.
 

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I told my younger friend, who is 27, that this generations favorites are all dying from overdoses, while last generations, were all murdered.

Juice, Mac, were some of his favorite artists. XXX, obviously the exception, was too.
 

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Lil Wayne's influence should be considered mass murder brehs. He convinced an entire generation to do hard drugs, mass weapon type ish.


Been listening to wayne since I was 13... never had any inclination to do any of that... ppl gotta take responsibility for their own actions. All he did was make it influential for rappers to say the same shyt on records
 

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Addiction actually doesn't make any changes into your brain, being intoxicated effects decision making though, but you ability to decide and make choices is present.
Fat people aren't addicted to food, they choose to make unwise eating choices and combine that with general laziness, don't burn enough calories to offset their intake.

Time to stop making excuses for poor life choices.

That way of thinking is outdated and incorrect. Science literally disagrees with what you are saying:

How addiction hijacks the brain - Harvard Health

How addiction hijacks the brain
Published: July, 2011
Desire initiates the process, but learning sustains it.

The word "addiction" is derived from a Latin term for "enslaved by" or "bound to." Anyone who has struggled to overcome an addiction — or has tried to help someone else to do so — understands why.

Addiction exerts a long and powerful influence on the brain that manifests in three distinct ways: craving for the object of addiction, loss of control over its use, and continuing involvement with it despite adverse consequences. While overcoming addiction is possible, the process is often long, slow, and complicated. It took years for researchers and policymakers to arrive at this understanding.

In the 1930s, when researchers first began to investigate what caused addictive behavior, they believed that people who developed addictions were somehow morally flawed or lacking in willpower. Overcoming addiction, they thought, involved punishing miscreants or, alternately, encouraging them to muster the will to break a habit.

The scientific consensus has changed since then. Today we recognize addiction as a chronic disease that changes both brain structure and function. Just as cardiovascular disease damages the heart and diabetes impairs the pancreas, addiction hijacks the brain. Recovery from addiction involves willpower, certainly, but it is not enough to "just say no" — as the 1980s slogan suggested. Instead, people typically use multiple strategies — including psychotherapy, medication, and self-care — as they try to break the grip of an addiction.

Another shift in thinking about addiction has occurred as well. For many years, experts believed that only alcohol and powerful drugs could cause addiction. Neuroimaging technologies and more recent research, however, have shown that certain pleasurable activities, such as gambling, shopping, and sex, can also co-opt the brain. Although the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV) describes multiple addictions, each tied to a specific substance or activity, consensus is emerging that these may represent multiple expressions of a common underlying brain process.

From liking to wanting
Nobody starts out intending to develop an addiction, but many people get caught in its snare. According to the latest government statistics, nearly 23 million Americans — almost one in 10 — are addicted to alcohol or other drugs. More than two-thirds of people with addiction abuse alcohol. The top three drugs causing addiction are marijuana, opioid (narcotic) pain relievers, and cocaine.

Genetic vulnerability contributes to the risk of developing an addiction. Twin and adoption studies show that about 40% to 60% of susceptibility to addiction is hereditary. But behavior plays a key role, especially when it comes to reinforcing a habit.

Pleasure principle. The brain registers all pleasures in the same way, whether they originate with a psychoactive drug, a monetary reward, a sexual encounter, or a satisfying meal. In the brain, pleasure has a distinct signature: the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the nucleus accumbens, a cluster of nerve cells lying underneath the cerebral cortex (see illustration). Dopamine release in the nucleus accumbens is so consistently tied with pleasure that neuroscientists refer to the region as the brain's pleasure center.

The brain's reward center
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Addictive drugs provide a shortcut to the brain's reward system by flooding the nucleus accumbens with dopamine. The hippocampus lays down memories of this rapid sense of satisfaction, and the amygdala creates a conditioned response to certain stimuli.



All drugs of abuse, from nicotine to heroin, cause a particularly powerful surge of dopamine in the nucleus accumbens. The likelihood that the use of a drug or participation in a rewarding activity will lead to addiction is directly linked to the speed with which it promotes dopamine release, the intensity of that release, and the reliability of that release. Even taking the same drug through different methods of administration can influence how likely it is to lead to addiction. Smoking a drug or injecting it intravenously, as opposed to swallowing it as a pill, for example, generally produces a faster, stronger dopamine signal and is more likely to lead to drug misuse.

Learning process. Scientists once believed that the experience of pleasure alone was enough to prompt people to continue seeking an addictive substance or activity. But more recent research suggests that the situation is more complicated. Dopamine not only contributes to the experience of pleasure, but also plays a role in learning and memory — two key elements in the transition from liking something to becoming addicted to it.

According to the current theory about addiction, dopamine interacts with another neurotransmitter, glutamate, to take over the brain's system of reward-related learning. This system has an important role in sustaining life because it links activities needed for human survival (such as eating and sex) with pleasure and reward. The reward circuit in the brain includes areas involved with motivation and memory as well as with pleasure. Addictive substances and behaviors stimulate the same circuit — and then overload it.

Repeated exposure to an addictive substance or behavior causes nerve cells in the nucleus accumbens and the prefrontal cortex (the area of the brain involved in planning and executing tasks) to communicate in a way that couples liking something with wanting it, in turn driving us to go after it. That is, this process motivates us to take action to seek out the source of pleasure.

Tolerance and compulsion. Over time, the brain adapts in a way that actually makes the sought-after substance or activity less pleasurable.

In nature, rewards usually come only with time and effort. Addictive drugs and behaviors provide a shortcut, flooding the brain with dopamine and other neurotransmitters. Our brains do not have an easy way to withstand the onslaught.

Addictive drugs, for example, can release two to 10 times the amount of dopamine that natural rewards do, and they do it more quickly and more reliably. In a person who becomes addicted, brain receptors become overwhelmed. The brain responds by producing less dopamine or eliminating dopamine receptors — an adaptation similar to turning the volume down on a loudspeaker when noise becomes too loud.

As a result of these adaptations, dopamine has less impact on the brain's reward center. People who develop an addiction typically find that, in time, the desired substance no longer gives them as much pleasure. They have to take more of it to obtain the same dopamine "high" because their brains have adapted — an effect known as tolerance.

At this point, compulsion takes over. The pleasure associated with an addictive drug or behavior subsides — and yet the memory of the desired effect and the need to recreate it (the wanting) persists. It's as though the normal machinery of motivation is no longer functioning.

The learning process mentioned earlier also comes into play. The hippocampus and the amygdala store information about environmental cues associated with the desired substance, so that it can be located again. These memories help create a conditioned response — intense craving — whenever the person encounters those environmental cues.

Cravings contribute not only to addiction but to relapse after a hard-won sobriety. A person addicted to heroin may be in danger of relapse when he sees a hypodermic needle, for example, while another person might start to drink again after seeing a bottle of whiskey. Conditioned learning helps explain why people who develop an addiction risk relapse even after years of abstinence.

Resources
National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information
P.O. Box 2345
Rockville, MD 20847
800-729-6686 (toll-free)
http://ncadi.samhsa.gov

National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism
5635 Fishers Lane, MSC 9304
Bethesda, MD 20892
301-443-3860
www.niaaa.nih.gov

National Institute on Drug Abuse
6001 Executive Blvd., Room 5213
Bethesda, MD 20892
301-443-1124
www.nida.nih.gov

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration
1 Choke Cherry Road
Rockville, MD 20857
877-276-4727 (toll-free)
www.samhsa.gov

But, hey, if you're smarter than the scientists who actually study this for a living, then okay :hubie:
 
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One of the most overrated "freestylers" and his only hit was a sample from a other hit where he had to give up 75% of the royalties to a cac

Damn homie you big hating right now.
Nobody could take that beat/sample and make the hit he did. Stop downplaying.

"freestylers"
With quotation marks around it. lmao:mjlol:

Even going as far as trying to imply he wasn't really freestyling tho.:laff:


The fukk are you hating so hard for right now. Especially on a young brotha that just passed. Did somebody shyt in your bowl of Cheerios this morning.

Hold this neg and eat a dikk.

Underachieving hating ass cac.
 

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Just because you can post a song about drugs from the 90's/00's doesn't make it the same as today. There were no artist at all in those eras who's entire image was built off of drug use. Even the man responsible for a lot of this weird escape my reality culture did not come in the game on drugs or raping about using them - Wayne.

He's practically a zombie these days though he has cut back but he has destroyed his body over the years.

All these drugs people are dying from today are not new but they are a lot less pure and are regularly altered because the recreational drugs are everywhere flooding the market and driving down the price. Suppliers and dealers felt they needed to get their profits back up, case in point, fentanyl.
 
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Maybe this will teach the younger generation that all this drinking/drugging off hard shyt has a price to pay; that price is your life.

All that standing in the corner popping pills and holding cups of posion cause it looks cool is ridiculous. What happen to just taking it easy?

This current young generation has a fixation on (creating) having an image of "coolness" even if it kills them smh. You try to tell them anything many will catch an attitude or ignore you because it goes against looking "cool" soooo there's not much else to be done here until they stop the arrogance and listen.
 
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